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Janitha Jayawardena
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Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 06:54 pm, by:  Janitha Jayawardena (Jani) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

" Richard Baird wrote once..

14:There are 3 grey plugs which where connected directly to the back of the EMV unit, The two plugs to the right, 1 large (26 pin) and one small (16 pin). The 3 mods are, a grounding of PARK BRAKE wire, The NSS wire needs IGN power and the SPEED SENSOR wire needs to be run through a switch (optional). The switch allows the safety system to operate if required. Cut the PARK BRAKE wire (BLACK pin 5 small plug) and run the plug side to ground. Pin 13 or 26 are grounds on the 26 pin plug (WHITE/BLACK TRACE) a small piece of wire is required.

15: Cut the NSS wire (BLACK/YELLOW TRACE) and run the plug side to IGN. pin 25 is ign on the larger plug (BLACK/RED TRACE). A small piece of wire is required.

16: Cut the SPD wire (PINK pin 13 small plug). Insulate them well. If you want the safety circuit to work I suggest a small length of twin cable and a toggle switch in the cup holder. Join the wires up and the safety circuit works.......GET IT???!! "

Ok guys Im not much of an electrician, infact ive never worked on electrical circuits at all Im in a completely different field working with people (med). And the local car audio shop where im getting my dvd system installed refuses to do this mod coz its illegal, what a bunch of panzys I couldnt even sign a disclaimer form saying its my responsibility if anything happens!

can anyone explain some of these terms that are above keepin in mind im a complete newbie when it comes to this sort of thing!

things i dont understand:
"run the plug side to ground"
"run the plug side to IGN"
"NSS wire needs IGN power"

things i do understand:
"cut"

and can anyone provide me with detailed instructions on how to remove the emv unit?

thanks a lot guys, if ya ever in town for a heart transplant in about 8-10 years, u know who to call!
Daniel Lee
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Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 07:33 pm, by:  Daniel Lee (Son_gokou) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Janitha,

You can also get a Tv kit overide unit and there is one for sale in the forum...

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/292/11863.html?1125379868

This unit just plug in the back of the EMV and no cutting wires needed

Also check out the Soarer FAQ site for instruction on how to remove the EMV unit:

http://members.westnet.com.au/web/rbaird/tunermod.htm
Janitha Jayawardena
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Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 07:35 pm, by:  Janitha Jayawardena (Jani) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If worst comes to worst then yeah I might buy that, but I wouldnt mind having a go at doing this DIY style.

thanks for the info dan
Mark Paddick
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Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 08:32 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Japanes override kits have a number of problems. Sometimes the trip computer functions don't work. If you have a reverse camera fitted it may no longer work. They are overly complicated for the job required.
The mod on the ALSC FAQ site is easy and never has these problems. Simply cut three wires. One of the wires then goes to 12v . Another goes to Ground. The third is left cut. Easy.
Janitha Jayawardena
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Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 09:00 pm, by:  Janitha Jayawardena (Jani) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks mark, but how do i EXACTLY:

make the wire "go to 12V"
and "go to ground"

i really dont know hey, thanks for the help
Mark Paddick
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Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 09:07 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cut the NSS wire (pin 3 small plug) so that there is enough length still connected to the small plug to run it to pin 25 of the large plug.
Cut the black park brake wire (pin 5 small plug) leaving enough wire on the small plug to run it to pin 13 of the large plug.
Cut the speed wire (pink pin 13 small plug) and leave it cut.

So in the end pin 3 of the small plug connects to pin 25 of the large plug....and pin 5 small plug goes to pin 13 large plug. Pin 13 of the small plug goes nowhere. The original connections to pins 3,5 and 13 of the small plug are no longer connected.
Janitha Jayawardena
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Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 09:39 pm, by:  Janitha Jayawardena (Jani) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

when u mean the wires go to pin25 and pin13, if theres no wires already going into pin25 and pin13 then its just a matter of plugging it in

BUT if there are already wires going into those pins, do i just try and fit the wires into pin25 and pin13 with their existing wires aswell?

thanks mark, im one step forward in getting this done
Mark Paddick
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Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 11:15 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The wires from pins 3 & 5 of the small plug are joined to the existing wires on pins 13 & 25 of the large plug.
The existing wires are stripped back a bit just before they go into the plug and then the wires from the small plug wrapped around the bare part, soldered and taped up.
Janitha Jayawardena
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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 12:12 am, by:  Janitha Jayawardena (Jani) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok one last question, hope im not bothering u guys that much!

i assume with the pin numbering system. you look at the connector with the side that has all the wires coming out of it (not the side that connects into the emv)?

top row is the row closest to the clips/grooves on the uppper edge of the connector?

pin1 is at the top left corner and the last pin at the bottom right?

correct me if im wrong. thanks again mark
Janitha Jayawardena
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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 12:50 pm, by:  Janitha Jayawardena (Jani) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

and by the way which side is the plug side? when u cut the wire is it the portion of wire thats still jutting out of the grey connector or is the portion of wire coming out from near the front of the car?
Mark Paddick
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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 05:38 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just brought another EMV loom home with me to do. Give me a few hours and I'll post up all the pics and stuff.
Richard Baird
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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 09:47 pm, by:  Richard Baird (Richo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Janitha if you are really stuck i can help you out which suburb r u in?
Mark Paddick
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Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 12:21 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Loom;

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The two plugs with the 3 wires teased out;

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Mark Paddick
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Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 12:24 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Follow the 3 wires to this part of the loom;

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and cut them;

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Mark Paddick
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Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 12:27 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Insulate and tape the two black wires like this;

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Pull the other ends of the black wires back through the loom;

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Mark Paddick
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Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 12:30 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Now join them to earth and power wires on big plug;

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and solder them;

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Then tape them up;

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and tidy up loom;

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Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 12:32 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The two ends of the cut pink wire can be taped up or connected to a switch to disable the mod;


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Now put it all back in the car and don't run up the arse of anything while testing
Robert Carlyon
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Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 01:11 pm, by:  Robert Carlyon (Bob) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark when I compare you example above to the mod I did, I know why I am not an auto electrician or electrical boffin! Hehehehe

Seriously though, I think those pics need to go in the HOW TO - TUTORIALS section.
Chris Lock
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Sunday, September 14, 2008 - 07:50 pm, by:  Chris Lock (Sledge) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So i did this mod, but when i start the car, the screen still cuts out.
I put a switch in so it can be enabled again, but even without the switch it cuts out.
Any ideas?
Paul Fitzsimmons
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Sunday, September 14, 2008 - 08:08 pm, by:  Paul Fitzsimmons (Oztif) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice to see Mark Paddick living on. R.I.P
Luke Gomer
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Monday, September 15, 2008 - 04:39 pm, by:  Luke Gomer (Luke) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Chris Lock wrote on Sunday, September 14, 2008 - 07:50 pm:




Yes, you have done it wrong - the above does work :-)

Most people simply do not perform the above in the manner stated i.e. they short the wires on the loom side NOT the EMV side.
Chris Lock
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Monday, September 15, 2008 - 09:20 pm, by:  Chris Lock (Sledge) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i did the EMV side, but i'll take another look and redo it..
Cheers
Chris Lock
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Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 10:02 pm, by:  Chris Lock (Sledge) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok got it done.
BUT the switch to enable the safety feature doesn't work..
Even if i connect the pink wires together it doesn't turn off the screen..
Any ideas on this one?
Any other way to disable the mod with a switch?

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