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Soarer Central General Soarer Chat A Soarer is comparable to....(power) Archive through October 05, 2006

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Adam Barry
TryHard
WA
UZZ30

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Monday, October 02, 2006 - 07:27 pm, by: Adam Barry (Acdchook)

Yeah, I have to agree with that comment hey. Until she gets up to about 3500 rpm, she feels a bit sluggish. Then she pushes nice and firm.

Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8

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Monday, October 02, 2006 - 07:28 pm, by: Peter Nitschke (Pen)

Apart from any of this, the Soarer is just a completely different driving experience.

Danny Novosel
Newbie
SA
Soarer 5 Speed TT

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Monday, October 02, 2006 - 07:45 pm, by: Danny Novosel (Dtheman)

if your want to get a soarer that can destroy commodores get a 5spd TT , if its comfort you want the V8 LTD is the way to go , my first soarer was a LTD with minor mods and it still did better than just keep up with all the V8 commies out there. But the TT is much faster and its still a nice ride it just does'nt have all the little extra's compared to the V8 LTD.

Maurice Diggler
TryHard
Victoria
Twin Turbo

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Monday, October 02, 2006 - 08:09 pm, by: Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice)

Greg Nikitiuk wrote on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 07:04 pm:
It's the only thing I'm not happy about the Toyota V8, a bit pedestrian off the line...

Greg Nikitiuk wrote on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 07:04 pm:
Until she gets up to about 3500 rpm, she feels a bit sluggish

That's what I have been trying to say for ages, but I get hit with "TT's have lag, V8's have instant power" Thank god for that.

Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT

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Monday, October 02, 2006 - 08:14 pm, by: Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof)

Daniel Clarke wrote on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 03:33 pm:
Sorry, But you CANT compare a 1998 ( and onwards ) model Gen 3 V8 powered crummydore against a 1991 V8 soarer Fairly.

COmparing 4 litres against 5.7 litres. The 3.8 litre V6 commodore shares basically the same capacity engine, Lets try comparing those.

The V8 soarer hands it to a stock V6 VT commodore.

BUT like Toan said, the TT soarers are a different case.

You're missing the point, that IS what we are being asked to compare. If the Commodore has 5.7 litre, good for it. Let's compare how it drives against a V8 Soarer.
Sigh, I'm out.

Greg Nikitiuk
DieHard
Vic
supercharged

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Monday, October 02, 2006 - 08:35 pm, by: Greg Nikitiuk (Jestr)

get back in your box Maurice!
You were not supposed to read this.

David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
V8 Ltd manual

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Monday, October 02, 2006 - 09:24 pm, by: David Vaughan (Davidv)

Maurice Diggler wrote on Monday, October 2, at 08:09 pm:
TT's have lag, V8's have instant power

They do. Lag is delay in onrush of power at given revs, a hesitation in response or power delivery. Sure, the V8 has more power in the middle of its torque band than it does at lower revs (what a staggering revelation

) but the point is that response happens sooner compared with a turbo car which is not spooled up, most obviously at low revs.

Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ 32 V8 Soarer #138

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Monday, October 02, 2006 - 09:24 pm, by: Dan McColl (Hoon)

All fun and games in a STRAIGHT LINE, eh Maurice??

Maurice Diggler
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Victoria
Twin Turbo

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Monday, October 02, 2006 - 10:48 pm, by: Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice)

Hehe, just having a play guys, the whole site agreed to disagree on the whole TT vs V8 thing ages back. I'll let sleeping dogs lay.

Greg Nikitiuk wrote on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 08:35 pm:
get back in your box Maurice!

hehehehe.

Dan McColl wrote on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 09:24 pm:
All fun and games in a STRAIGHT LINE, eh Maurice??

Haha, yeh, it's fun around the corners too, just not terribly efficient! hehehehehehe.

Savo Reg
Tinkerer
ACT
Soarer 2.5L TT

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Monday, October 02, 2006 - 11:36 pm, by: Savo Reg (Savo)

nice tuned computer and stall will fix that line problem

Aka Abedin
TryHard
NSW
TT

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Tuesday, October 03, 2006 - 10:46 am, by: Aka Abedin (Soarer_91tt)

it also comes down to passion. I personally love and always loved Toyotas. Even if it was slower then a common-whore i would still get a soarer.

I love the look of a 200sx BUT its a Nissan. Nothing is wrong with them, just the fact it didnt come out from the Toyota factory.

You gota feel it, and love it.

If you are after kicking some ozzie cars and skylines get a TT soarer and minor mods will see you leaving tread marks all over them.

V8 soarer is more PIMP. The kind of options you get with the car is just outstanding. Drop it and a nice set of tasty rims, full exhaust and you have 1 sweet cruiser.

Aaron Mead
DieHard
NT
TT

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Tuesday, October 03, 2006 - 11:20 am, by: Aaron Mead (Aaron)

Oops, i didnt tread the thread properly. I meant a stock V8 soarer is equivalent in acceleration to an auto VR 185KW Clubsport.

The TT is as good off the mark as an S15 Silvia. They both have that 'Someones holding me back feel' of only a few p.s.i.

But for experience, the Soarer is 200% better drive over the VR and makes the S15 feel like a quick lancer.

Michael Machin
Tinkerer
Franklin
UZZ31

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Tuesday, October 03, 2006 - 02:21 pm, by: Michael Machin (Minz)

Has anyone got experience with a VVT-i single turbo?
From what I've heard an un-modded VVT-i would be a much better beast for comparison than a TT, being closer to the age some of these cars they're getting compared to.

Savo Reg
Tinkerer
ACT
Soarer 2.5L TT

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Tuesday, October 03, 2006 - 02:49 pm, by: Savo Reg (Savo)

and dont forget toyota's are not to bad to work on, i used to be a mechanic and i didnt mind working on toyotas for that reason... lets not get into magna's and subaru's...

Lew Radbourn
Goo Roo
Queensland
jzz30 ute / uzz30/ 2 X uzz31

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Tuesday, October 03, 2006 - 03:30 pm, by: Lew Radbourn (Marlew)

the VVTi is very smooth coming on to boost and for that matter it is nice off boost as well
then ya wop a GT30 in the standard turbo housings and open up the other components to to make it breath better.
then hang on to ya back teeth ....ya might just swallow them.hehehehehe

Marc Vipond
TryHard
Queensland
Soarer TT JZZ30

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Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 11:46 am, by: Marc Vipond (04awe)

LOL you've got a way with words Lew

Darryn Dewar
TryHard
Gisborne
UZZ30 Soarer

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Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 11:50 am, by: Darryn Dewar (Mrphreak)

Rumour has it he has a way with Soarers too

Nathan Pearce
Newbie
Qld
none yet

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Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 01:00 pm, by: Nathan Pearce (Scrag)

I test drove a manual vvti single turbo recently and it was quick did not blow me away or anything. It felt similar to an 200sx actually. I felt it die once the revs got up a bit.

Actually I own standard 3.8 VS commodore and around town 0-60km/h feels as though it can keep up with most standard cars.
So I am faced with do I want to fork out another 20,000 just to have a car that is a bit quicker in standard form. I admit I would prefer the soarer but 20,000 extra...

Aka Abedin
TryHard
NSW
TT

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Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 01:06 pm, by: Aka Abedin (Soarer_91tt)

Nathan check out Jeff Smiths profile. He has a nice 94 TT.

no need to fork out $20k for a single turbo. If i was you look for a nice clean example of a TT and spend a bit extra to make it special.

Daniel Czechowski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T

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Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 01:12 pm, by: Daniel Czechowski (Dan)

You can grab a decent stock TT for around $12K nowadays... probably even for less in the eastern states.

Aka Abedin
TryHard
NSW
TT

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Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 01:20 pm, by: Aka Abedin (Soarer_91tt)

Whatever you do STAY away from super-cheap/no-frills Soarers.

In the long run they will cost you more to fix up.

Keep an eye on the for sale section of this forum. Atlaest you know they have been cared for by the owners.

Daniel Czechowski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T

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Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 01:27 pm, by: Daniel Czechowski (Dan)

Yeah, if it's too cheap don't buy it haha

Rainer Fritzsche
Tinkerer
NSW
TT

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Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 09:18 pm, by: Rainer Fritzsche (Ryner)

Lew Radbourn wrote on Tuesday, October 03, 2006 - 03:30 pm:
the VVTi is very smooth coming on to boost and for that matter it is nice off boost as well
then ya wop a GT30 in the standard turbo housings and open up the other components to to make it breath better.
then hang on to ya back teeth ....ya might just swallow them.hehehehehe

Got some experience with this have we Lew ?

Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT

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Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 07:37 am, by: Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof)

Nathan Pearce wrote on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 01:00 pm:
I test drove a manual vvti single turbo recently and it was quick did not blow me away or anything. It felt similar to an 200sx actually. I felt it die once the revs got up a bit.

I had a test drive of an auto single and got the same impression. May have been thrashed but it didn't feel like it had the urgency of my own 91 TT.
It could have been a false impression though from the smoother power delivery...

Lew Radbourn
Goo Roo
Queensland
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Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 02:35 pm, by: Lew Radbourn (Marlew)

Nathan;
Mate we are in the best state to get cheap soarers.
there was one last week in the trading post from a yard up here $7500 as traded
bring it down here to me with $11,000
and i will have it quicker than any $20,000 Soarer.
and the parts used on it will be all new items
so you start with a fresh canvas (you don't get some one else head aches).

Rainer.hehehehehehe
yer mate
OPEN it up and put some thing in ya throat so ya don't swallow them
this thing is going to fly.

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