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Brett Moloney
DieHard
Queensland
Supercharged UZZ31

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Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 06:01 pm, by:  Brett Moloney (Lxsv8) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Okay have used the search words 'Time & Pump & Suspension' with no results.

After switching between Norm and High on the gearbox surround panel I have found that it takes 20 seconds before either the pump activates or the air is released. Is this a normal waiting period while the computer makes up its mind what to do or should the air bags pump up or down straight away.
Has anyone else noticed a delay? It may be normal for all I know but I am just curious.

Also in all my searching Mark Paddick had mentioned the following " I would check all the sensors first and adjust the system pressure up a bit (2 turns of that adjustment should be heaps)" - can someone tell me where this adjustment is to increase system pressure?

Brett
Evan Kaio
Tinkerer
Wellington
'91 UZZ31

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Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 06:35 pm, by:  Evan Kaio (Knave) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Brett, 20 seconds sounds about right for the pump to start or release air.
Have also noticed when car is parked, and engine running, air will release as soon as I open the drivers door. It looks like the Air Suspension Computer could be connected to the courtesy light circuit,
if so, could an open door while driving prevent the compressor from working?
I think Mark was referring to the relief valve on the solenoid assembly. 2 solenoids in the boot and 2 solenoids with the compressor.
Hope this helps.
Jaime Laurente
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Qld
UZZ31

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Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 11:34 am, by:  Jaime Laurente (Haime) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As above, mine also takes 10-20 seconds to pump/activate air pressure. As you adjust pump for quicker pumping and release procedure, it has to work harder and hence youll hear more farting and panting.
David Vaughan
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ACT
V8 Ltd manual

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Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 12:34 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Expect at least 20 seconds, probably 30, and then it takes a few more seconds to make the change. This is as designed.

The ampersands are not needed in your search string. The popup menu handles OR and AND in the search.
Brett Moloney
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Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 05:46 pm, by:  Brett Moloney (Lxsv8) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the replies. - Everything must be normal then.


David Vaughan wrote on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 12:34 pm:

The ampersands are not needed in your search string. The popup menu handles OR and AND in the search.




David for the record I did not use the ampersands - only the words in capitals.
Damian Ware
DieHard
Victoria
UZZ32

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Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 09:08 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Brett, how did you go with the height sensor??
Michael James
TryHard
Queensland
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Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 10:35 pm, by:  Michael James (Wildwizard) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If my car is still it take less than 5 seconds for it to react to a height change and 60 seconds to pump up (haven't timed the drop)
Brett Moloney
DieHard
Queensland
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Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 09:53 pm, by:  Brett Moloney (Lxsv8) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Damien, I ended up undoing the height sensor rod and manually moved the rod up and then down to ensure the height sensor was working fine (which it seemed to be) then slight adjustment of the rod height and all appears good!
Gregg Holden
Trader
WA
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Friday, December 14, 2007 - 03:28 pm, by:  Gregg Holden (Xzotic) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/30604/167719.html?1189239155
Brett Moloney
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Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:11 pm, by:  Brett Moloney (Lxsv8) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I replaced the filter last week as someone had stated that this helped but there was no change in speed at all!
Brett Moloney
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Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:11 pm, by:  Brett Moloney (Lxsv8) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Gregg. I did see that in my searching but Paul Drane seemed to think that the guy with the Celsior may have burst an airbag by using a larger compressor.

I am currently looking at replacing the whole system with aftermarket air bag struts. These can give full drop or full height in 1 to 2 seconds. These basic systems can move each corner individually or all over the place but will not go back to exactly the same height each time which would play havoc with the tyre wear due to incorrect wheel alignment.

The only problem with this is I want 3 settings

1. Superlow - dumped when parked

2. Normal ride height (so wheel alignment specs can be maintained for tyre preservation)

3. Speed Hump and Driveway clearances.

There is an option for a controller that will allow 3 main user settings (exactly what I want) I think he said this was about US$790 extra.

There are a few aftermarket systems around but the fact that our cars require struts seems to bump up the cost.

One brand in particular that seems reasonable is

http://airbagit.com/product_info.php?Path=228_255&products_id=3646 (keep in mind that is a kit only and is in US Dollars).

Yuri who I have been talking to from the company says that shipping over here will be US$358.

He also assures me that the struts are a direct replacement for the soarer struts.
Brett Moloney
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Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 06:05 am, by:  Brett Moloney (Lxsv8) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Okay so after a little more reading I am hearing bad things about airbagit products although there is no real explanation of what exactly is bad about them. Has anybody heard any good or bad things about them?
Andrew La'Brooy
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Victoria
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Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 11:07 am, by:  Andrew La'Brooy (Andyttr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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"Have also noticed when car is parked, and engine running, air will release as soon as I open the drivers door. It looks like the Air Suspension Computer could be connected to the courtesy light circuit,
if so, could an open door while driving prevent the compressor from working?


My understanding was that the suspension computer tries to keep the car level at all times.

So, when you get into your car there's more weight on the driver's side making that side lower. The computer detects this and pumps more air into the driver's side struts. When you get out of the car the driver's side is now higher than the passenger side, and so it releases the extra air to bring the car back to level. I don't think its got anything to do with the door light switch.
Keenan Edinger
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WA
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Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 11:50 am, by:  Keenan Edinger (Keenan585) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Correct me if I'm wrong anybody, but don't all the doors have to be closed for the system to move the car up or down as a safety precaution? From my experience, the car won't move up or down until the doors are all closed... Same thing as on my old man's previous LX470 4WD.

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