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Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla

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Friday, September 22, 2006 - 11:49 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was just sitting here in my office pondering over a nice hot cup of Jasmine tea i procured from "Dr. Tea", critically aclaimed #1 tea house in Beijing (and most of China) when i had the thought "How does a Soarer compare to a Veyron?".

OBVIOUSLY in essentually every aspect of performance the Veyron kills any Soarer, modified or not (Except those crazy drag ones), but what about other European and American sports/performance cars?

You hear the car shows and magazines throwing around your typical "OMG THIS CAR IS AMAZING IT CAN GO 1-100kph IN LIKE 4SECONDS ON 300BHP!" .. but what about a typical modified car?

The official 1-100kph stat for a stock TT is touted at 6.9s and the v8.. slower.

How about a typically modified TT/v8 running 230rwkw (~300rwhp?)?

Brockas' TT putting out ~300rwhp has done low 12.9sec runs up the 1/4mile with i think mid 1.8sec 60' times, what would that roughly equate to in 1-100kph logic?
How about a similarly powered v8 running similar 1/4mile times?

Just curious as i havent seen this discussed before, and i am unable to turn anything up in threads.
Wayne Koh
TryHard
Western Australia
UZZ31 Limited

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Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 12:51 am, by:  Wayne Koh (Teknoboi) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i think the torque delivery is more important than the actual horsepower. So comparing a v8 supercharged and TT both with 300rwhp. The v8 would likely to get a lower time? my guess anyway.
Daniel Clarke
DieHard
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 05:35 am, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have tried a G-Tech on my car. At the DRags Officially, It has run 12.9 @ 107.4 mph with a 1.89 60 footer. My car has a sheet for 195 rwkw at 14.7-15.0 psi. We did a cpl of runs at 15.5psi on yesterday and saw 207 rwkw( forgot to get printout :-( )

On my Greddy full timer, it has attack times and everything. I have seen a best of 5.4 seconds for 0-100km/h at the track.

Dont forget, Americans use the old 0-60 mph. Which is only 96km/h i think. So times from ours to theirs would vary a fraction.
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
V8 Ltd manual

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Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 08:44 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1-100kph? 1? You could start a whole new trend here Callum
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT

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Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 10:41 am, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1km/h roll ons hehe.
Here is a good idea Callum. Go to this website:
http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html
Go Ctrl-F to bring up find and then put in like 13.1. Then keep going through and having a look at what it highlights, will show what your car is equal to and about what the 0-100 is equal to. I put 13.9 in and it is about equal to a mid 5 second 0-100 time! I think 6.9sec would be very conservative for a stock TT, I would say closer to six flat.
Paul Brockbank
DieHard
WA
Soarer TT

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Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 11:48 am, by:  Paul Brockbank (Brockas) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cool thread Callum

2001 Acura NSX V6 4.5 12.9
2002 Aston Martin V-12 Vanquish 4.4 12.9
1992 Ferrari 512 TR 4.7 12.9
2003 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9
1994 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.6 4.5 12.9


Having a look at that you would think my car would do a mid-high 4 second time for 0-60mph.

Also, a stock TT Supra:
1994 Toyota Supra Turbo 5.3 13.7

5.3 with a similar power delivery to the Soarer.

I'd take an educated guess at about 4.8.
Daniel Clarke
DieHard
NSW
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Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 05:23 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mind you, I have only tried the 0 - 100km/h thing 3 times,hehe. Turbo cars will generally do the 2nd 1.8th mile about 0.4-0.5 seconds faster than a naturally aspirated car though.

Then again, Maybe my soarer could do it in 5 flat or something better? will have to borrow a mates Gtech meter next drags. Best way to tell.
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla

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Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 08:24 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

David, i like to be different ;)

Interesting site, Luke.
2006 Bentley Continental Flying Spur (twin-turbo W-12) 4.6 13.1 (R&T Aug. '05)
1993 Toyota Supra Turbo 4.6 13.1 (C&D Mar '93)
I have a TT as well, do 13.1 up the straight, so one would suggest i can also do 4.6! ;D

I think that site prolly answers my questions really.

Ok... how about top speeds? =P
Troy Baker
TryHard
Carnarvon WA
Soarer HKS Single Turbo

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Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 08:54 pm, by:  Troy Baker (Sincity) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a G Tech and the best I have got is 4.97sec/100km/h. I have 295rwkw. This figure was on an average bitumen road with normal street tyres. Drag strip with Drag radials would be significantly quicker but at least the above is a real world situation.
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla

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Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 10:53 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought it was too good to be true ;D
Marc Vipond
TryHard
Queensland
Soarer TT JZZ30

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Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 01:23 am, by:  Marc Vipond (04awe) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Man that's pretty damn quick :-) hopefully I will be mid 4 second bracket when I finish my conversion!
Matt Gill
Tinkerer
North Island
TT

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Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 07:52 am, by:  Matt Gill (Drifter4ag) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

295kw
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT

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Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 09:14 am, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How quick did you go at Carnarvon the other weekend Troy?

Callum, I don't think they are too far off the mark, maybe subtract around half a second? Then again on your 13.1 you may very well have got their in the mid fours with all the track prep and stuff.
Troy Baker
TryHard
Carnarvon WA
Soarer HKS Single Turbo

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Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 08:15 pm, by:  Troy Baker (Sincity) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Absolutely no grip on the runway. Spinning in first and second and not much better in the higher revs in third. Got beaten in the final by a WRX from Karratha. He just had too much grip. I did pull 139km/h over the 1/8 mile through with the WRX only pulling 125km/h so might have caught him over 1/4 mile. I will put up a post this week hopefully outlining events and results.
Neil Griffiths
Trader
NSW
MANUAL Super Charged UZZ31 :-)

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Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 08:40 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Troy,
Just wear ya uniform and scare them in future..hahahahahahahah :-)
Aaron Mead
DieHard
NT
TT

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Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 08:55 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got the RSM to give me a 5.27 with a smidge of wheel spin. It uses the factory speed sensor as a signal, i.e. it replicates what the dash says, so thats its accuracy limit. Definately a tenth or two to be gained with practice and settings, but to jump straight in and light it up in 5.27 is good. Remember, those magazine guys are pretty good drivers, and have been getting paid to do it for years, and often test it on a decent surface.
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla

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Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 10:13 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

RE: Pro's driving; is it not obvious im just after stats so that i can go "OMG MY CAR IS BETTER THAN A DB7!" ?

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