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John Street
TryHard
NSW
Accord

Posts: 136
Reg: 08-2005

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Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 08:15 pm, by:  John Street (Rex2ce) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ganador-Full-catback-exhaust-system-Lexus-400-celcior_W0QQitemZ150264602496QQ ihZ005QQcategoryZ130632QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

Thought this might interest someone
Aaron Mead
Goo Roo
NT
Celsior 1UZ-FE Mines, JZZ30 1.5JZ-GTE To4z

Posts: 2009
Reg: 03-2006

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Saturday, July 05, 2008 - 01:02 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ganador is a T&E brand yeah? As in Vertex etcc


Anyone kno?
David Barnes
Tinkerer
Qld
Celsior V8

Posts: 21
Reg: 06-2008

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Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 09:44 am, by:  David Barnes (Toyota_celsior) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I looked into buying this system,

But it would almost as quiet as stock, and would'nt want to chop out mufflers and replace with pipe on such a nice looking system.

power gains would be minimal as it still retains standard factory middle muffles.
Simon Martin
TryHard
Queensland
Celsoir UCF11

Posts: 142
Reg: 06-2007

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Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 09:24 pm, by:  Simon Martin (Commander) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's at the headers that the muffle/restriction is. You replace the headers and that's where you'll get your sound/performance improvement. Cause whatever is behind that resonates/amplifies what's at the front.
Andrew Ferres
DieHard
WA
'90 C-F Celsior V8, '84 Soarer V8, '91 Supra V8

Posts: 866
Reg: 07-2005

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Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 09:27 am, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ummm, the Celsior headers actually flow very well for stock. They are the best of the bunch and extractors won't see as much of an improvement as they see on the Soarer.

Its everything behind the headers (ie, the 5 mufflers) that makes it so quiet...
Simon Martin
TryHard
Queensland
Celsoir UCF11

Posts: 147
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Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 09:16 am, by:  Simon Martin (Commander) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mmm stock 90 degree angle headers... good one. Great flow there...
Andrew Ferres
DieHard
WA
'90 C-F Celsior V8, '84 Soarer V8, '91 Supra V8

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Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 09:31 am, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Compare them to the Crown and Soarer and you'll see what I mean!
Juan Hutinel
Tinkerer
S.A.
Soarer JZZ30 GT-TL and UCF11 Celsior

Posts: 85
Reg: 07-2007

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Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 04:09 pm, by:  Juan Hutinel (Juanted) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I JUST GOT THEM! We will see how good they sound when I have time to install them on my celsior!
Simon Martin
TryHard
Queensland
Celsoir UCF11

Posts: 151
Reg: 06-2007

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Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 02:31 pm, by:  Simon Martin (Commander) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrew, sure they are better than the Crown ones, but it's like replacing a Kia with a Hyundai. Sure the Hyundai is slightly better, but at the end of the day they both suck, so why not just buy a lexus?
Andrew Ferres
DieHard
WA
'90 C-F Celsior V8, '84 Soarer V8, '91 Supra V8

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Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 02:49 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ummm, money?

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