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Phil Gibson
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Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 10:59 am, by:  Phil Gibson (Sciflyer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Finally got her on the dyno and this was the result

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202hp = 151kw

Now according to Planetsoarer this is a pretty good result for a stock engine, stock ECU, n/a car, it mightve been a touch higher had i remembered to turn off the EMV and auto headlights...

I dont know what gear the run was done in but it was with TRC and OD off.

But i have some questions - First, i thought the V8s didnt make peak power at the rev limiter?

Second, any ideas on what that dip is about?
Mark Northcott
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Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 11:21 am, by:  Mark Northcott (My91gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WOOH, Phil

On avg what's your lts/100km???

That's running richer than what mine was. You could have an ecu problem...

I couldn't see having headlights and emv off making much more of a power difference :-)
Daniel Clarke
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Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 04:25 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like a 3rd gear run where they have progressively loaded it up so avoid 2nd gear kcikdown.

The dip in power is the Lockup in the gearbox.

Why didnt they run it all the way until 180km/h speed cut?

159 is not peaking 3rd gear much at all!
Mark Northcott
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Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 04:38 pm, by:  Mark Northcott (My91gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually I remember someone telling me that my speedo was out by like 20kms on a dyno back in Newcastle....

I proved that wrong by sitting on 178km/h on my speedo and the satnav read 176km/h close enough for me :-)
Phil Gibson
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Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 08:04 pm, by:  Phil Gibson (Sciflyer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Daniel Clarke wrote on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 04:25 pm:

Why didnt they run it all the way until 180km/h speed cut?

159 is not peaking 3rd gear much at all!




Im certain the dyno runs were up to the rev limiter as i heard it cut in both times

Also they were both done in the PWR mode

So does 6300rpm (or thereabouts) in 3rd with a 4.08 diff equal 159km/h assuming a normal tyre/wheel combo?
Peter Nitschke
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Monday, February 26, 2007 - 03:07 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Phil, the headers would be giving you maybe 10-15 rwkw, so the results are in line with other V8's.

Rev cut is 6400 (on mine at least) and 3rd will pull over 180kph which is why there can be gear change issues when a speed cut remover is fitted.

Your TT ratio diff will be making a difference, but not that much, TT 4.08 - V8 3.92, which is about 4%, so your graph cut would have been at 165kph with a V8 diff - still well below where it should actually cut.
Peter Nitschke
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Monday, February 26, 2007 - 03:17 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't think that dip should be there either, other V8 graphs don't have it.

Mark Northcott
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Monday, February 26, 2007 - 07:13 am, by:  Mark Northcott (My91gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah but look at the AFR that's running RICH as, for a pretty much standard ecu it's sending a load of fuel into that engine that doesn't need to be there.

Although every car is different only cars I've seen run that rich are turbo's.



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Drops down to 11's in the AFR

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Drops down to 12's in the AFR after ecu was de-bugged which was leaving injectors open, also reading false airflow readings, plus other things.

But if you concerned I'd be just going back and talking to the guys and see what they say. Best opinion is a professionals one.
Phil Gibson
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Monday, February 26, 2007 - 02:02 pm, by:  Phil Gibson (Sciflyer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Peter and Mark for the thoughts.

I think more will be revealed on Wednesday when i take her for a run at the drags - i think that perhaps that km/h figure is not accurate, and im pretty sure i dont have any ECU issues like premature rev cut ;)

That dip in the power is not noticeable in the car :-)

The AFR i dont look at as being abnormal, obviously its stupidly rich but then thats typical Toyota, i do have a Walbro fuel pump in there at the moment so maybe its pushing more fuel through when in open loop

Mark i get good economy when light driving/cruising but as im a bit of a leadfoot at times i havnt bothered to check fuel usage when ive been caning it :-)
Benny Gammelmark
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Monday, February 26, 2007 - 02:49 pm, by:  Benny Gammelmark (Oldfield) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My dyno chart looks a bit similar, not quite as pronounced a dip, but I have a chip in mine and mine IS running rich.

I think it could depend a bit on the gear they use as well. I have two very different graphs from the same car, done two different places. One looks a bit like yours and the other one is smooth as.
They got to about the same max power figure.

I had about 161rwkw before the chip so 151 is quite normal.

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