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Ben Lipman
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Monday, August 10, 2009 - 08:35 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ahh. I picked up another set of Supra 17s today. Nothing special there, but now I can run the semis on 17x8 all round. Which ever way I go with brakes in the future, Celsior ar Supra, I'll have room.

Now to swap the tyres across to the 17x8s and see if I can sell the Manarays to recover some of the cash I wanted to spend on brakes.
Antonio Hunt
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Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 12:56 pm, by:  Antonio Hunt (Carajo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Ben there are some celsior ones for sale at the moment if your quick?
http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/4570/295007.html?1249901612
and here too from the same guy????
http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/292/294999.html?1249916903
Ben Lipman
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Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 02:58 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Antonio,

If I get Celsior brakes I'll more than likely get them new(rebuilt) from the US like Aaron did, for a bit less too. My only concern is the availability of competition pads for the celsior 4 pots.

The Supra 4 pots are very well supported, but are also very heavy.

I'll have to have a look at the difference in pad area as well. It's all good having heaps of pots, but if the bad area is smaller is it really any better?
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Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 03:05 pm, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I ran the Celsior brakes Neil was able to get Ferodo DS2500 pads for them.. Awesome pads - I use them in the Brembos now.
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Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 03:07 pm, by:  Antonio Hunt (Carajo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thats cool, just saw them for sale after i read your new posts on this thread and thought you might have been interested but yeah rebuilt form the US and cheaper is better option. maybe using a pad for another model and do some cutting, research will tell the answer to that question though
Ben Lipman
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Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 07:07 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As you may have read in another thread, I am in the middle or removing the stock dump pipe to replace it with a 'custom' set I got hold of.

On closer inspection of the custom dumps, I have discovered the welds are pretty with pin holes on all the main joins, and lots of slag on the inside. I spent the first half of today cleaning up the pipes, and re welding them to seal them, before giving them a coat of heat proof paint. They still are NOT the prettiest dumps ever fitted to a Soarer, but hopefully now they wont leak like a bastard.

I hope they were a custom job by some backyarder, because I would hate to think they came out of a proper workshop.

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Ben Lipman
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Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 12:37 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So, the dumps are now in, and the turbos mostly refitted- a much easier job now the dumps are in. The dumps are causing a few clearance issues. They pass though the engine bay perfectly, with about 9-10mm clearance from the engine mount and the steering assembly, however they exit the engine bay about an inch to the right, and an inch higher up than the factory down pipe. What this means is I cannot bolt up the rest of the exhaust. I can push the exhaust to meet the dump, almost, but it causes the exhaust to sit flush against the floor of the car all the way under my seat- no good mister.

The second issue is the factory down pipe has a 2.75 inch flange and the dump has a 3inch. I used a 2,75 inch flange when I made the exhaust to meet up with the factory system.

It looks like I'll have to run down to the exhaust shop and get a 3inch flange and re make/modify my front pipe to suit the dump pipe. I hope these dumps work all right, as once I cut up the front pipe there is no going back.

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Here is a picture of my "special" spanner I made to get that front nut off
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Andrew Meiers
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Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 09:33 pm, by:  Andrew Meiers (Acmtt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You just love making stuff Ben!
The dumps will be worth the effort, watch your times drop and smile. You will have forgotten that they are the ugliest pipes ever!
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Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 09:48 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

man that welding is fking
Ben Lipman
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Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 03:38 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The moment of truth!

The new battery is fully wired through to the starter motor. From the battery top to the starter motor there is 0.02V drop (12.98V to 12.96V) and when the isolation switch was turned there was no crazy arcing out or electrical fires.

So, I started the car and it went first go. I can't tell you how relieved I was that I hadn't missed anything. I was quite worried I might have gone too small on the battery. I started the car four times in the space of a few minutes just to check it would handle the current draw. All that remains to do is start it at 0deg in the morning.

I should mention that the exhaust is VERY LOUD with dump pipes only. That quickly drew the wife out to the shed. She remarked that it obviously starts, so I had best get the exhaust done!

The new front pipe has been welded up and fitted. The car is a lot louder than it used to be. That should shut Paul up, who thinks it is too quiet for a race car. The whole thing sounds like it is breathing easier, and revving a bit more freely.

It is not all good news, however, as there is a small coolant leak from the bottom radiator pipe straight under the front turbo. I must have done something when I was working in that area. Hopefully I can fix that easily enough. It looks like it is coming from under the factory spring clamp.
Ben Lipman
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Tuesday, August 25, 2009 - 08:03 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some pics of the supra 17x8s. I painted them black as one of the pairs was kinda marked up. I think it looks tuff. I was hoping to sell the other manaray rims and try and fund some brakes but there hasn't been any interest.



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After ripping the splitter off I was unable to get the leak to occur again. No amount of revving, poking pushing or prodding would cause it. Only thing I can think of is that one of the components was sitting on the bottom radiator pipe causing it to unseat from its seal.

Heading to Wakefield park again on the 5th September. Hopefully I'll have a fraction more power, and more front grip due to the splitter. After the removal of the battery, addition of the splitter and me putting on a few kilos the car should have the same weight as previous, so the comparison should be fairly accurate.
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Tuesday, August 25, 2009 - 08:48 pm, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Black on black - nice.
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Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 06:39 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Love the Supra rims - Soarer's should have come with these from the factory IMO, they suit the shape so well.
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Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 08:25 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just got home from the weekend. I couldn't get my act together at Wakefield on Saturday and was unable to match or better my previous best of 1:09.9. 1:10.2 was my best, although my terminal speed was up 4-8kph down the straight. Unfortunately Circuit Club only timed two of the five sessions on the day, so who knows how I was doing in the other three sessions.

To Wrap up a pretty disappointing weekend, the rear brakes are shot, and the rear spoiler has shat itself. The pads are down to nothing, and the rotors aren't to far away either. This leaves me with a decision to make. Replace the pads and rotors, or try and find a set of supra 2 pot rears to go on the car. I have already decided to buy supra fronts. I might have to miss the next track day so I can afford it. I can't afford to put new brakes in and get supra brakes and do a track day...

On the way home I bumped into Gary Snow and his insane drifter. The cage and fibreglass panels are seriously on my wish list. Now to win lotto...

Further along the highway, the rear spoiler let go. I noticed it was lopsided after seeing Gary, and adjusted it level again. A few hundred k's later it broke both front linkages and flopped over backwards. Glad it did not break off as that would have done some serious damage to any one behind us. One more thing to fix...


The car is in lock down at work so I can focus on other stuff around the house that needs doing. Next weekend I'll look at it with fresh eyes.
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Monday, September 07, 2009 - 09:27 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Geez Ben, I see lots of positives from your weekend mate:

* You didn't put her on her lid or into a wall, which is always a good result.
* Three-thenths off PB is nothing to worry about. There are heaps of factors involved.
* You have used up your brakes, which indicates you were going fast.
* You got to see Gary's car up close and personal, which is more than most of us on these forums can boast.
* You are the mother of all fabricators, so you can fix the rear wing in a jiffy.
* Your lap times are such that you have given me hope!

I also have a set of brand new ventilated, cross drilled and slotted rear rotors that I'm not using on mine, so they are yours if you want them.
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Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:57 am, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

not good to hear ben but as andrew says alot of good came from it. i met up with gary snow and his nephew for the drifting on sunday he ended up coming second. that car looks awesome needs a little polishing and clean here and there to make it tidy but i gess you dont need to worry for a drift car haha i love the cage too i want one aswell lol
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Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 09:16 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Andrew McKellar wrote on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 09:27 pm:

also have a set of brand new ventilated, cross drilled and slotted rear rotors that I'm not using on mine, so they are yours if you want them




Are these the Supra rears or standard TT rotors? How much do you want for 'em? Take it to PM if you like.

I am considering my options at the moment, as I am not sure it is worth spending cash on another set of standard rear brakes when I am upgrading the fronts to Supras. The rears will cost me about $750 for calipers, fitting kit and rotors new from NZ, but I'd need pads on top of that. On the other hand to replace the TT rears is about half that, more if I buy better rotors.

I like Gary's cage because it is available off the shelf, and I could fit it myself. My main concern is if CAMS would recognise it should I enter an event that requires a cage. A custom job like yours would be great but the requirement for custom work puts me off, especially living out here in the sticks.
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Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 09:23 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I guess I sounded like a sook in that earlier post. The day was a little frustrating in that it plagued by stoppages, yet the passenger sessions all went for the full timing, ie there were 3 hours of passenger time, and only two hours of timed track running.

The rest of it is budgetary constraints. I don't have the money I need to do what I want
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Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 07:43 am, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You didn't sound like a sook, so dry your eyes princess .

You can find the specs on Gary's cage here (his is the "15-point" cage):

http://www.cusco.co.jp/en/pdf/p18.pdf

Compare them to the minimum specs in the online CAMS manual, and you'll have your answer mate.
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Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 08:09 am, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

With CAMS events, because your car isn't registered it'll need to be log booked. Jeff Harper has been looking into this for supersprints so you may not want to go to that trouble anyway for events that only last 3 laps at a time.

However, if the event doesn't require a roll cage it doesn't need to be certified although I don't know how that goes with the car needing to be logbooked. You would't want to skimp on saftey though and a diagonal brace is mandatory which some of those Cuscos don't have.

From
http://www.camsmanual.com.au/pdf/10_gen_req/GQ11_Schedule_J_Q309.pdf

NON-COMPLYING SAFETY CAGES
In cases where the type and/or status of the event does not require an automobile to be fitted with any form
of safety cage, the use of structures which do not comply with these regulations is permitted unless the
scrutineers believe Chief Scrutineer believes the structure to be of unsafe construction.
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Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 07:23 pm, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

id love to get a rollcage for the soarer but as i havent really done any track work i dont think it would be worth it i might invest in one when i try build a track car... tossing up between doing up one of my mini's (supercharged one) as a track car i have a cage for that already but its only basic 4 point

hey ben let me know next time you come down id like to come out and watch ya or help if you need any
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Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 05:35 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmm. I wonder how they would go with the Supra fronts balance wise?

Certainly would get me out of trouble. I'll get back to you, thanks Mate.
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Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 08:19 pm, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You'll need a proportioning valve if you run 4 pot fronts & single pot rears - a lot of dicking about. Steve Malkin has installed a proportioning valve to get his setup functioning well but without it the rears start to lock up first.
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Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 08:42 pm, by:  Phil Gibson (Sciflyer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They do? Im running celsior fronts and TT rears on both my daily and track cars and ive never had a problem, even braking hard from 170km/h

In fact the Celsiors that run the 4-pots at the front use exactly the same single-pot brakes as the TT for the rears from the factory :-)

Are you talking about brakes with ABS or without?
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Friday, September 11, 2009 - 08:18 am, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Possibly without ABS although it seems to be a common problem.

The Celsior brake system was designed to work with that combo but the Soarer wasn't. Just something to be aware of as it does happen - I was talking to someone with this exact issue just last week.
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Friday, September 11, 2009 - 11:57 am, by:  Phil Gibson (Sciflyer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree that you end up with a "longer" pedal with 4-pots as the Soarer master cyl is not really big enough, but even so the benefits of decent brakes far outweigh that
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Friday, September 11, 2009 - 03:16 pm, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's the proportioning that's the issue - not the master cylinder as such.
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Friday, September 11, 2009 - 08:27 pm, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ben, I feel the times for the day were down all round. Have you compared all the other competitors results from this session to the last session?

Even though Manny and I did better than last (we had good reason, 40rwkw up and the adjusted camber) neither of us felt truly "hooked up", I know at no stage was I going 10/10ths, I felt that the track surface was very slippery or something.
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Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 10:20 am, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I haven't compared the other guys times. I have been flat out all week.

I do agree that I never hit 100% though. I thought it was just me having a bad day. I also found it strange that we both set our fastest times in the first session. Normally my fastest time of the day is in the session around lunch time.

I never knew you had an extra 40Kw, you bastard. No wonder I couldn't figure out what was going on. I though you had gained all that time due to the new arms and better camber settings that came with it.


I brought the car home last night to work on it. Worryingly, it wouldn't idle when I was getting it off the trailer. RPM was around 400 and kinda spluttery. It was running fine when I put it on the trailer a week ago.

The only thing I can think of is an electrical gremlin in one of the intercepter modules. I put the broken spoiler in the car and one of the end plates was right up near the wiring for the computers. I also think I was hitting the speed cut towards the end of the day as there was some sort of "cut" just before the kink. I thought it may be the rev limiter but it is only doing around 6400 - 6500RPM and does this happily in lower gears. Possibly the RSM has failed or the wiring is compromised? One more thing to look at.

I did make up some sheet metal wing mounts last night to replace the broken ones. I have completely removed the complicated linkage system the wing came with and now have a single point of adjustment on the rear of each upright. Pictures to follow.
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The wing now sits a little lower, an added benefit as it looked a little "wanky" before.

I'll probably repaint the whole thing in gloss black to match the body work.
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Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 01:25 pm, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very neat.

If it's idling low & spluttering you might have popped of a vac hose?
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Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 06:48 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I couldn't help myself. I painted it all gloss black. Got any blacker?



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I'll have to have a look at all the hoses etc as well. Cheers.
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Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 07:38 pm, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ha, I thought you know about the adaptronic being plugged in!

Want the bad news Ben??

We were not on WOT, I found out!

It was the 2nd session we were the quickest BTW, when you were chasing me....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMcD9VhxO50&feature=channel
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Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 09:57 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Man, I really need to sort out a phone for that racechrono. It seems your corner speeds are the same as mine- based on me looking at my speedo where I get the chance.
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Monday, September 14, 2009 - 07:21 am, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Our speeds around the corners are getting close to the V8 supercars, so all of us should be pretty chuffed!

Source: The Wakfield Track Map, Wakefield Track website.

Can you send me the disk from your camera of the day?
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Monday, September 14, 2009 - 06:36 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can, but I'll have to get around to trimming it down a bit. There is over 7 gig of video.

I assume you particularly want the stuff where I'm playing chase to you?
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Monday, September 14, 2009 - 07:39 pm, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No need to trim buddy, I'll take the whole deal.
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Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 07:33 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Righto, I'll get onto it.
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Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 07:18 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How good are Rutherford and Bond Toyota?

I placed an order via email on Friday and, lo and behold, my brand new Supra rotors and calipers arrived today from NZ.
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Man they are huge and heavy

I have been asked to measure the piston size in these things. I have lent my vernier calipers to a mate, but by a ruler they are 39mm across.
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Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 11:11 am, by:  Paul Kalie (Ajzs) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

now get to fitting them :-)
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Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 07:20 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What are you doing Saturday?

Ordered new pads today. Going with Intima SR6300 again. My supplier does not have the type D in stock as no one wants them- apparently we are all too happy with the SR's.

Probably has more to do with the fact all the Supra drivers in Aust are either posers or drag warriors, neither pursuit needing 850 degree pads. This never happened when I drove a rotor...
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Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 08:20 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hahah well im sure supras dont blow up every 2kms :o hahaha how much did the calipers set you back ben?
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Friday, September 18, 2009 - 06:35 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

$660 aust for the calipers, or $1002 for the whole lot. Delivered in three days. I don't know why people even consider buying second hand calipers at $700 plus. ( I might sell mine- Brand new, unwanted present. Selling cheap at $1200)


Ali Saeed wrote on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 08:20 pm:

im sure supras dont blow up every 2kms




The 12A Turbo in my Rx-7 was built by Maztech and put in waaaay back in 1997. I then proceeded to thrash it at the drags, on the track (Hidden Valley, Darwin- not some track in Victoria where it is lucky to hit 20 degrees ambient), and for no speed limit runs 100 odd km down the Stuart Hwy and back for the next 10 years before selling the whole car due to starting a family. Engine is still running in it. You are right- totally unreliable.



New pads arrived today. Bryce at APDA (aka Carbling) knows how to look after his customers. I only rang him yesterday afternoon to ask him what he had available for the Supra brakes.
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Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 03:03 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fitted the front brakes today. Very easy job. Only difficult bit is removing the factory dust cover.

I decided not to modify the dust cover to suit the bigger brakes. I made up some custom ducting that sort of replicates the ducting on the factory item. I am hoping it draws a bit of cool air into the centre of the rotors to aid with cooling. Pics are below. I made up a template out of plastic, cut it out of a sheet of ally and bent it up to shape. It may look a little odd but the shape was dictated by the functioning components around it.





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