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Phil Gibson
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Monday, September 21, 2009 - 10:30 am, by:  Phil Gibson (Sciflyer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You will soon forget about the weight of them once you find out how much better they are than the stock brakes :-)
Ben Lipman
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Monday, September 21, 2009 - 04:23 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Phil Gibson wrote on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 10:30 am:

You will soon forget about the weight of them once you find out how much better they are than the stock brakes




It turns out the weight gain is not that significant.

Factory TT rotors 8.2kg JZA80 9.3kg
Factory TT calipers 5.7kg JZA80 6.3kg

Thats a 1.7kg gain (less the dust cover) for an extra 655 braking horse power, or a 12% weight gain for an extra 64% braking power. (If my maths is correct!)
Ben Lipman
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Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 08:07 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have been very busy of late with work and such, that I haven't had a lot of time to work on the car, or post on here. Since fitting the front brakes, the rears arrived and I fitted them. I then thoroughly flushed the system with new fluid and I have to say I don't remember ever feeling better brakes or a better pedal. All concerns about having a longer pedal with Supra 4 pots were wrong.

I did however discover that my front left rim was cracked right through one of the spokes. I have been looking around for a replacement but after a month have not been able to find one. I did see a full set go for $350 odd on ebay, and people seem to be having trouble selling them now. It is a weird market. Anyway, not wanting to risk a horrible failure by racing on the cracked rim, I have ordered a pair of 255/40/17 Toyo R888s. TNT failed to follow instructions and leave the tyres at the front door yesterday, so I'll have to chase them down next week and try and arrange another delivery. These will go on a pair of Supra 17x9.5 rims I had lying around. I have painted them gloss black to match, but this time using engine enamel. The jet black acrylic I used on the other rims has not handled the heat and brake dust too well and lost a lot of its shine.

I spent some time chasing my mystery idling problem(ie it only idles every now and then). It idled fine at the last track day, but wouldn't idle when I went to get it off the trailer a week later. The only thing I did in between was put the broken spoiler in with an end plate near the computers.

Running diagnostics didn't reveal anything (except that I seem to be developing blinky dash syndrome). I fiddled with the throttle stop to get it to idle for the purpose of fault finding. It idles but is still low and rough.

Some heavy reading up on this site lead me to shorting the fuel pump ecu at the diagnostic port. This had no effect on the idle.

After having a good hard look at all the wiring in the passenger floor area I did find one of the signal wires for the RSM had been crushed. Disconnecting this had no effect on the idle quality. I cut out the damaged section of wire and redid the connectors. When I started the car to try diagnostics again I had a good, healthy idle. I am not sure if this was the problem, or I have knocked another wire in the area fixing the fault. It could also just be the car is now idling and will play up tomorrow. Time will tell.

The plan now is to get to a track day in Nov or Dec and see how it all goes. I would like to go back to Wakefield and have another crack at my PB, but time and funds are against me. I have had to miss a couple of track days to pay for the brakes and tyres. The car gets loaded for the move to Darwin at the end of December, and it needs to be in running condition. I am torn between my desire to track it some more, and the worry that I may break something I can't afford to fix prior to removal date.
Ben Lipman
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Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 08:08 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I should also say I have looked at all the vacuum lines and the coil pack connectors etc and can find nothing irregular there. Hopefully it was the signal wire after all...
Ben Lipman
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Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 08:38 am, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I made a "music video" of my track car build and track day footage with Linkin Park's "What I've done" as the background music. Unfortunately YouTube muted the music due to copyright stuff. I am trying to find something listenable to replace the track with.

I only wanted to put the video up on here for SC members to watch. Is there a video hosting site that some one can recommend that will host my original movie with the Linkin Park track?

Anyway, butchered movie is on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpaziKVSPYw
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
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Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 09:01 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice - the music worked for me.
Ben Lipman
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Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 11:04 am, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually, I just watched that with the new music. I'll have to figure out who that is- the music is growing on me. I just picked it out of a list of songs on youtube that were the right length, LOL.
Jeff Smith
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Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 12:52 pm, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great work Ben!
James Johnson
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UZZ31 Soarer

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Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 03:20 pm, by:  James Johnson (Jimbo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



Very good Ben
Aaron Casey
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Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 04:58 pm, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

good work ben :-)
Andrew McKellar
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Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 10:03 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Top job Ben, excellent editing skills! Is there no end to your talents?
Ben Lipman
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Monday, October 26, 2009 - 06:50 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just like making stuff. Anything.
Ben Lipman
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Friday, November 06, 2009 - 06:04 am, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am looking at my cars "aero" package this weekend. Like everyone before me I want to maximise what I have but still get it onto and off the trailer. I am screwing on some freebie fibreglass skirts to assist in the aero, but I really need to tackle the front of the car.

My splitter sits at about 180-190mm off the ground. All the internet opinion (webpinion?) points to an optimum height around 3 inches/75mm.

Another issue is that my splitter/undertray follows the natural lines under the front bar, causing it to have an upwards rake. This will most likely cause the undertray to generate some lift, counteracting the downforce acting on the splitter lip. I want to get it so it is parallel to the ground.

Third, I think I am too small. Actually, I think my splitter lip is too small. At the moment I am running 2 inch/50mm splitter protrusion. I want to stretch that to 100mm/4 inch if I can.

All this will need to be done with consideration given to getting it on and off the trailer with the minimum of fuss.

Opinions?
Ben Lipman
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Friday, November 06, 2009 - 06:06 am, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does any one know where to get "alumalite" in/near the Hunter Valley?

It is like the stuff real estate signs are made of, but the outer skins are thin aluminium.
Ben Lipman
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Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 08:47 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have lowered my front splitter to 145mm, so it now sits dead level with the front cross member (where my undertray bolts up) and is parallel to the ground. It ended up being a compromise between wanting the splitter as low as possible, and still getting it on and off the trailer without too much hassle. This also meant I could not extend the splitter forward.



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I made the air dam out of garden edging from the hardware store, and secured it to the splitter with brackets made from 20mm angle ally.

The splitter/undertray is secured by 5 ally straps from the chassis and radiator support, at the front and sides, and by the original undertray mounts at the rear. I came up with a system to allow the whole splitter and under tray to be removed easily. Each of the 5 ally straps goes through a slot in the splitter and is bolted to a right angle bracket secured to the underside. It may not be perfect aerodynamically, but at least I can get the whole thing off with 7 bolts all on the underside.

Only thing to do now is figure out what I am going to do with the wheel arch linings. I pulled them out while I was fiddling around. I don't know if I need these back in or not. They do provide some protection to the coolers from debris flying off the tyres. They also assist the front bar keep its shape.

I'll have a play tomorrow.

I have had a good hard look at the rear. The spare tyre well needs to be cut out before any decent diffuser can be made up. I may be able to make something to tidy air flow up in the centre, as it looks like the lower lip of the rear bar may be catching some air.
Ben Lipman
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Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 06:51 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I finished off the splitter and side skirt work today, and then decided to make up some blanking plates for the absent turning lights. The theory being that it might tidy up the front some more. The factory intercooler made do with the stock side vents, so the oil coolers can as well.

Pics. The missus reckons I should have left them the raw ally colour. I painted them black to match, but she liked the contrast (and the fact they looked like the stock lights).


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I am going to keep my eyes open for the black garden edging in 100mm wide, so I can ditch the factory rubber lip all together and just run my 'air dam'. I had to keep the lip as the only edge I could find was 75mm wide.

I have some other ideas about running the air dam back into the intercooler to feed it more air, and give a much larger front surface for the high pressure in front of it to act upon. Should create some significant down force (or at least lift reduction), but this will be a project for another day.

I really want to create a rear diffuser for her now. It won't be ideal as I am not going to the trouble of creating a flat bottom, but it should tidy up the rear airflow, which seems pretty nasty from the "wool tufting" thread on here somewhere.

James Harris
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Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 08:49 pm, by:  James Harris (Haro) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

nice work mate ! Turning lamp covers look better black mate, good choice haha
Andrew McKellar
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Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:50 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah good work on the front end there Ben. I'm with James - the black works great on those covers.

I have PM'd you a drawing for a rear diffuser. It was designed for a Soarer with no spare tyre well, but a man of your talents should be able to adapt it.
Phil Gibson
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Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 11:03 pm, by:  Phil Gibson (Sciflyer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice work Ben

I cut the front part of the wheel arch linings, partly because they were broken but also so airflow would be improved through the coolers and to the brakes, the bottom part of them is still intact so it provides support and fixing for the front bar. I havnt removed the rest of the lining though, if thats what you were talking about

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Ben Lipman
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Monday, November 09, 2009 - 05:23 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Phil,

you don't have a problem with debris hitting your coolers? It is the only thing I am concerned about. I can make up some ally bracing to support the bumper cover where it needs it. Looking at your pic, my coolers sit a lot further back towards the wheel. I was trying to get as much standoff from the bumper a possible in the event of making contact with something hard. (porsche GT3 anyone?)

Andrew, when I get a chance to get on the home computer I'll check my email. I have been doing a fair bit of research on diffusers via the web, but if you have already done the hard work...

I want to remove the rear tyre well, I just need to investigate any possible side effects further (structure???)
Phil Gibson
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Monday, November 09, 2009 - 11:05 pm, by:  Phil Gibson (Sciflyer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good point, my coolers sit far enough forward that debris from the wheel isnt a problem, but as you say you do still want some protection from frontal damage

Next time im at a race meeting i might have a look at some of the cars to see how they position things, i think there should be enough space to position the coolers (in my case pwr steering and hyd. fan) far enough back without being too close to the wheel
Andrew McKellar
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Monday, November 09, 2009 - 11:06 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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Surrounded on four sides by rails, I think you'll be OK mate.
Christian Somerville
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Monday, November 09, 2009 - 11:26 pm, by:  Christian Somerville (Csomers) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Goodwork Ben!
Andrew, what's happening with yours?
Ali Saeed
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Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 12:11 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sorry for my ignorance, but does the front splitter increase downforce?
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Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 12:26 am, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Christian - will have the garage set up more like an operating theatre by the end of this week, then I can get back into it in ernest. Stay tunes mate.

Ali - no ignorance, it's a fair question, the answer to which is yes....and no. It won't increase downforce so much as decrease "upforce", or lift. A flat undertray like Ben's is more about providing a smooth path for the air to flow under the car. Less drag, less turbulence = go faster and it will feel grippier (if that's even a word), which feels like more downforce because increasing downforce has the same purpose - increasing grip.

Clear as mud really...
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Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 12:40 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i doubt it would have much use for a road car, unless you owned a ferrari..
Ben Lipman
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Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 07:04 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ali Saeed wrote on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 12:40 am:

i doubt it would have much use for a road car, unless you owned a ferrari..




Actually....

Funnily enough I found a lot of information on splitters and flat front undertrays from the most unlikely of sources- eco weirdos. It seems this is one of the very rare occasions when racers and enviro-nazis have the same (well similar) goals. The reduction in drag from the splitter and undertray are beneficial to fuel economy as well as outright speed and grip. Google "eco mods/modder" and have a look at some of the sites that come up. Good news is they are very happy to share their info as well.
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Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 07:06 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like the boot floor is coming out then.

Just need to find a cheaper place to buy ally sheets. Bunnings just put all their prices up, and their sheets are too small for what I have in mind (Thanks Andrew!)
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Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 07:56 pm, by:  Christian Somerville (Csomers) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Look at Jeremy Clarkson try and put a bulsar wood splitter on a Renault Avantime and see the results... topgear.com
HAHA!
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Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 07:56 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

looks like this may be a project for summer then. ive got an aftermarket front bar so the damned standard undertrays dont fit very well..might have to make one of those.
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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 04:49 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Christian Somerville wrote on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 07:56 pm:

Look at Jeremy Clarkson try and put a bulsar wood splitter on a Renault Avantime and see the results... topgear.com
HAHA!



I'm quite happy looking at mine...natsoft.com.au

I'll be in Adelaide in 12months time...we can have a go at Mallala. I'll give you a decent head start. That gives you 12-14 months to put up or...

I mocked up a rear diffuser out of a corflute sign this arvo. A fair bit of the rear bumper has to come out as well as the tyre well. This is one of those projects that will need all the ducks in a row before I cut anything. Bugger. I was starting to think I could have it done by Oran Park on the 29th of this month. I still haven't found the ally sheet yet. Everyone I have spoke to doesn't have sheets that size.
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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 08:20 pm, by:  James Harris (Haro) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ben i love reading your thread but please start spelling ALLOY as ALLOY and not ALLY..... hahah

Its just one of those things *kinda like LOSE and LOOSE*
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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 09:00 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Possibly an abbreviation of aluminium?
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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 09:28 pm, by:  James Harris (Haro) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fair call peter

I thought that at first , then i assume (perhaps incorrectly) that Ben would be using Aluminium alloy.

Maybe he has already mentioned at some stage in this awesome thread what type of metal (or mix of metals) he is using.

As mentioned previously, I love this thread so keep up the good work Benny Boy !
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Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 07:03 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fair one James, but let me explain...

An 'alloy' is a mixture of two or more metals. 'Ally' is my (and many others) abbreviation of Aluminium, or Aluminum as our US readers would say.

Now, I don't know how often you type the word 'Aluminium', but the 'a' is on the far left of the keyboard, the 'l' is on the extreme other end of the same row, and then the 'u' is up the top, then down the bottom for the 'm'. Next you have to reverse your line of travel and cross over to get back up the top of the keyboard to get to that pesky little 'i', and then do it all over again to get back down the bottom to the 'n'. Next, we go back up to the 'i' (have we been here before?) before completely bucking the trend and heading left to the 'u'. Finally, we get to revisit the 'm'. It really is a pain in the arse of a word to spell.

Anyway, a sheet of a-l-u-m-i-n-i-u-m a-l-l-o-y 2400x1200x1.6mm will cost me $205 here in I will need to shop further afield for a better price, meaning it isn't something I can do after work. It may have to wait for the Christmas holidays
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Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 09:26 pm, by:  James Harris (Haro) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ben Lipman wrote on Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 07:03 pm:

Now, I don't know how often you type the word 'Aluminium', but the 'a' is on the far left of the keyboard, the 'l' is on the extreme other end of the same row, and then the 'u' is up the top, then down the bottom for the 'm'. Next you have to reverse your line of travel and cross over to get back up the top of the keyboard to get to that pesky little 'i', and then do it all over again to get back down the bottom to the 'n'. Next, we go back up to the 'i' (have we been here before?) before completely bucking the trend and heading left to the 'u'. Finally, we get to revisit the 'm'. It really is a pain in the arse of a word to spell.







Maybe try 13AL
thats one of its technical names

Anyways, yes that is a steep price indeed!! Time to find a new seller me thinks. Good luck brother
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Friday, November 13, 2009 - 01:22 pm, by:  Aiden Cheese (Chillpen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ben Lipman wrote on Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 07:03 pm:

Now, I don't know how often you type the word 'Aluminium', but the 'a' is on the far left of the keyboard, the 'l' is on the extreme other end of the same row, and then the 'u' is up the top, then down the bottom for the 'm'. Next you have to reverse your line of travel and cross over to get back up the top of the keyboard to get to that pesky little 'i', and then do it all over again to get back down the bottom to the 'n'. Next, we go back up to the 'i' (have we been here before?) before completely bucking the trend and heading left to the 'u'. Finally, we get to revisit the 'm'. It really is a pain in the arse of a word to spell




Haha i loved this description of aluminium! I guess i've been touch typing since i was about 11 years old and assume everyone else can!

Here's two words that i have to type one after the other and except for one letter are all on my left hand and always makes my hand cramp - its a password used for something i login to..

"SeamRewards" Seriously, try it, your ring finger starts on the S while your pinky holds the shift but then it moves up th the E your pinky starts to lift, then your pinky has to make room to press the A and finally some relief as you press M with the other hand.. but its short lived as you've quickly got to press shift with the pinky and R with your pointer, E now pressed by your "bird" finger and A again by the pinky, R by the pointer and D by the bird, finally finishing with your hand cramping on the S with your ring finger.

I do it only a few times a day but each time my hand cramps. Even right now thinking about it.
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Friday, November 13, 2009 - 07:25 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Friday, November 13, 2009 - 08:12 pm, by:  James Harris (Haro) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hahah...

Nice one Aiden!

Ben - why cant you express your feelings in words? That should be considered almost SMS speak and you may get banned haha

* sits down *

Carry on lads...
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Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 05:56 am, by:  James Johnson (Jimbo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ben Lipman wrote on Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 07:03 pm:

Now, I don't know how often you type the word 'Aluminium', but the 'a' is on the far left of the keyboard, the 'l' is on the extreme other end of the same row, and then the 'u' is up the top, then down the bottom for the 'm'. Next you have to reverse your line of travel and cross over to get back up the top of the keyboard to get to that pesky little 'i', and then do it all over again to get back down the bottom to the 'n'. Next, we go back up to the 'i' (have we been here before?) before completely bucking the trend and heading left to the 'u'. Finally, we get to revisit the 'm'. It really is a pain in the arse of a word to spell.




If you cant be bothered typing such a word then where do you find the motivation to build a track car or do any thing else in life?
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Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 07:13 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol i think he doesnt want to waste time typing it so he can spend maximum time on the car :p
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Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 08:45 am, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You guys crack me up. I was in a very foul mood last night when I finally got home from work. If you cant say anything nice...

Anyway, after banishing my self to the shed before I decapitated two little boys (for no real reason) I took my frustrations out on the car. It now has no rear bumper, reinforcement bar, and tail lights. It is also marked up for some heavy duty cutting. The only thing that stopped me from going at it with a bloody big grinder was the soft porn on SBS. That's when I realised it was after 10pm and I would not be very popular with the neighbours. I also vaguely remember reading something about using power tools under the influence and figured it was bed time.
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Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 11:06 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A good call! :-)
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Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 12:29 pm, by:  James Johnson (Jimbo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ali Saeed wrote on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 07:13 am:

lol i think he doesnt want to waste time typing it so he can spend maximum time on the car :p




Good point Ali....
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Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 08:11 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pics of my corflute mock up under my stripped rear. I got nothing done today as I am working. Same, same tomorrow. Maybe next weekend.


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It should fit once the tyre well is cut out. The only drama I can see is the tow hook. I may need to move it 5-10mm out so it doesn't foul the diffuser. I wont know for sure until the boot floor is cut and I can put the diffuser in place and check clearances.

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