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Morgan Cross
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Monday, August 22, 2005 - 01:26 pm, by:  Morgan Cross Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I may be getting a set of 18's in the near future, and was wondering if I'd need a wheel allignment with them on? My car seems to be driving smoothly now.

Thanks.

Morgan.
Rob Andreacchio
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Monday, August 22, 2005 - 03:35 pm, by:  Rob Andreacchio Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yep. anytime you get new tyres up front get an alignment done.
Benny Gammelmark
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Monday, August 22, 2005 - 04:02 pm, by:  Benny Gammelmark Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Get them to use the correct wheel alignment setup:

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/281/472.html?1099557430
Daniel Lee
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Monday, August 22, 2005 - 06:31 pm, by:  Daniel Lee Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also make sure the bushes are alright, otherwise i heard no matter how many wheel alignment you done it will been out in few days...
Benny Gammelmark
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Monday, August 22, 2005 - 07:03 pm, by:  Benny Gammelmark Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the bushes are really bad they can't do the alignment according to specs. Even if they are OK they can often only get close.

Just make sure they get as close as possible and as Daniel wrote, check the bushes first (or get a mechanic to do so).
Paul Mawter
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Monday, August 22, 2005 - 07:31 pm, by:  Paul Mawter Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Even with good bushes, which I have, getting a good wheel alignment is a bit like winning the lottery.If you find a good one "stick to it".
Benny Gammelmark
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Monday, August 22, 2005 - 07:39 pm, by:  Benny Gammelmark Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're right Paul. That's the reason why I'm going back to Pedders in Hornsby tomorrow to have an alignment (recently fitting new rear bushes).
Morgan Cross
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Monday, August 22, 2005 - 09:14 pm, by:  Morgan Cross Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bushes are another story, No point checking them as I wont have the $$$ to replace them for another few months. :-(

Can I use the factory settings even with bigger wheels?

Cheers.
Benny Gammelmark
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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 05:20 am, by:  Benny Gammelmark Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes.
Peter Nitschke
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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 05:34 am, by:  Peter Nitschke Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Offset might be a factor.
Benny Gammelmark
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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 06:13 am, by:  Benny Gammelmark Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're right Peter, that may be a factor. Take it to someone that knows about wheel alignments. Other Melbourne people should be able to give you a name of a good place.

Give them the sheet with the figures and tell them your wheel offset and the factory offset (+50).
Brett Cashmore
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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 06:55 am, by:  Brett Cashmore Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've had a good run with Pedders in Brunswick, they have worked on many Soarers, including my old one, as well.
A good wheel alignment can be very hard to find.
Ben Kelly
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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 08:54 pm, by:  Ben Kelly (Ace) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have got a new set of 17" wheels which replaced an old set. Thing is someone told me that the offset is probably wrong. The wheels also havent been aligned yet should i use the factory settings considering a different wheel size? Are there settings which will compensate for the lack of offset or too much?
Rob Andreacchio
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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 08:58 pm, by:  Rob Andreacchio (Reepa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What offset are they?
Vinh Bui
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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 09:50 pm, by:  Vinh Bui (Hyudsjk) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

May seem like a dumb question, but what does a wheel alignment do? I got my 18's very recently, and the car actually seems a lot more smoother then my older tyres.
Rob Andreacchio
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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 09:54 pm, by:  Rob Andreacchio (Reepa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

they adjust your camber,caster and toe to make sure that the wheels are "aligned" correctly hehe this will ensure that the car doesn't pull to either side, and that the tyres wear evenly.
David Vaughan
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Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 06:35 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Camber, caster and toe also affect how fast you can go around corners and how the car responds in different phases of the corner.
Jose-Antonio Castillo
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Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 08:08 am, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This sounds stupid, but I'm guessing the alignment specs would be altered once wheels with a lower offset are put on, yes?
Ben Kelly
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Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 01:47 pm, by:  Ben Kelly (Ace) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Im not sure what the offset is or how to find out, but im pretty sure that whatever it is i dont have enough of it as i get a fair bit of tramlining. Can anyone recommend a good alignment place as i have been told that a lot of places know bugger all about camber/castor settings
Rob Andreacchio
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Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 01:52 pm, by:  Rob Andreacchio (Reepa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

alignment will help with tramlining... could also be the tyres that you are using... or a combination of both.

Are they new tyres or just new rims?
Benny Gammelmark
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Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 01:57 pm, by:  Benny Gammelmark (Oldfield) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've been using Pedders in Hornsby. Don't know how much they know but they sound knowledgeable and they take their time to do it.
Last time it was 1 1/2 - 2 hours.
Ben Kelly
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Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 07:27 pm, by:  Ben Kelly (Ace) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1 1/2 hours sounds like they could either be really meticulous or have no idea
Vinny Ozorio
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Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 01:05 pm, by:  Vinny Ozorio (Fruitloop) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just a quick question regards wheel alignment after reading the figures (for a uzz30 )Is the rear Toe in figure quoted for A.Total or B.each side.?? Thanks in advance
John Stafford
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Monday, December 27, 2010 - 04:56 am, by:  John Stafford (Johng12) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can anyone tell me a soarer wheel alignment expert near Caboolture Qld. and how much they cost? I got Fulcrum at Caboolture to do it but am not sure that they knew what they were doing as the guy didn't know the rear needed doing, I had to tell him even after I had given him a piece of paper with the specs on it. I have just fitted new tyres and don't want them wearing unevenly. Cheers John
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Monday, December 27, 2010 - 09:11 pm, by:  Spencer Cameron (Switchio) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ben Kelly wrote on Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 07:27 pm:

1 1/2 hours sounds like they could either be really meticulous or have no idea




Soarer wheel alignments aren't easy. The rear is not exactly the most simplistic setup:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/noctiluca/Soarer/EXtoyota4/localf~1/download/extoyo~1/wwwelc~1.ru/toyot a/full~157.htm

Both the lateral LCA's control toe and camber so getting everything back there to line up in a 15-20 year old car that may or may not be using original bushes can be hard. Especially hard if you don't see Soarer's often.

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