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Patrick Robinson
Tinkerer
New Providence
Soarer TT

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Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 02:07 am, by:  Patrick Robinson (Islandsoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

O.K.
Here it is after the cut @$$ with changing my rear shocks, when I drive and hit a sharp bump or pot hole the tyre still rubs slightly. I have come to realization that my tyres may be to wide, but the thing is I've seen other soarers with rims the same size or larger. Currently I have 235/45/18 on the rear, and the car is at stock height. What else can be done to eliminate "THE RUB"?
Nickel Quimada
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Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 02:48 am, by:  Nickel Quimada (Pinoy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if its rubbing the guard then you may need to roll you guards. i have the same profile as your rears and it has been lowered and there is no rubbing at all.
Scott Ferguson
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Alberta
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Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 06:01 am, by:  Scott Ferguson (Scott_ferguson) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Patrick, get rims with a proper offset, I have 275/40/17's in the rear with no rubbing on a rim with a +42 offset, With a +50 i could get 285's under there for sure and possibly even 295's
Patrick Robinson
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Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 08:55 am, by:  Patrick Robinson (Islandsoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also, would springs play a role, because I changed the shocks and not the springs. It appears that the springs there are the ones that came on it from the factory.
Patrick Robinson
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Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 08:57 am, by:  Patrick Robinson (Islandsoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pinoy, you rolled your guards?
Nickel Quimada
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Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 11:43 am, by:  Nickel Quimada (Pinoy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No they havnt been rolled. Has never rubbed the guards at all.
Jose-Antonio Castillo
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NSW
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Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 09:45 pm, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm on 265's up rear on a +41mm offset (going lower) and it doesn't rub (and it's lowered with rolled guards).
James Johnson
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Victoria
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Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 09:55 pm, by:  James Johnson (Jamesy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if the springs are stock, take them out and measure the height of them with a known good (new) spring if they are shorter they have probably sagged and no longer have the same spring rate as when they were new this could also lead to the car bottoming out and (rubbing the tyres) because the spring has lost its original spring rate...

ps. you could also measure the rear height of you car and compare to another known good car again if it has stock springs and the car is lower they could of sagged..

if this is the case time for some new springs!

since as you said it only rubs on big bumps i would say this is the problem.
Patrick Robinson
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Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 02:00 am, by:  Patrick Robinson (Islandsoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks alot Guys
Alen Sadikovic
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Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 03:08 pm, by:  Alen Sadikovic (Alen87) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Jose-Antonio Castillo wrote on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 09:45 pm:

on 265's up rear on a +41mm




how did you guys offset them so much. i bought some offset plates today and i couldnt fit them with 18mm little lone 41mm
Scott Ferguson
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Alberta
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Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 01:58 am, by:  Scott Ferguson (Scott_ferguson) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

??? adding spacers will decrease a positive offset! You are decreasing offset with a set of 18mm spacers i'm assuming? a positve offset is heading the other direction. no spacers at all.
Jose-Antonio Castillo
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NSW
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Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 09:44 am, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

+41mm wheels sink in like hell.

Alen what are you looking for? Spacers?
Brian Timms
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Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 06:34 pm, by:  Brian Timms (Turbo_brian) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Scott Ferguson wrote on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 01:58 am:

adding spacers will decrease a positive offset!




It's also illegal in a lot of places.

In Australia, the use of spacers is against ADR guidelines unless the vehicle was manufactured and supplied with those spacer plates.

Worth checking, because you dont want to get done for spacers.

B.
Jose-Antonio Castillo
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Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 10:13 pm, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So do wheels that push the overall wheel track more than 25mm (either way, ~ +25mm wheels and spacers are illegal) so are anything larger in diameter than 15mm (meaning 18" and bigger).

Does anyone really follow it? I doubt it
Alen Sadikovic
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Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 11:35 pm, by:  Alen Sadikovic (Alen87) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Scott Ferguson wrote on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 01:58 am:

a positve offset is heading the other direction. no spacers at all.




yeh thats what i meant, sorry mate, i think my rims came off set allready, because i ran out of thread to put the nut on.

when i tried ,my mates rims, it was touching the brakes, so am asuming my rims have a set offset.
Jose-Antonio Castillo
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Friday, November 30, 2007 - 12:27 am, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All wheels have a pre-determined offset, they can't be adjusted. The only way they can be adjusted is by
a) Welding additional metal/skimming excess metal (heard of it being done, not worth it)
b) Spacers (they will only subtract the offset... eg. +41mm with a 20mm spacer = +21mm overall)
Alen Sadikovic
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Friday, November 30, 2007 - 06:56 pm, by:  Alen Sadikovic (Alen87) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Jose-Antonio Castillo wrote on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 12:27 am:

All wheels have a pre-determined offset,




explains why i couldnt fitt the additional spacers
James Johnson
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Friday, November 30, 2007 - 08:07 pm, by:  James Johnson (Jamesy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

alen get some longer studs! lol
Alen Sadikovic
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Sunday, December 02, 2007 - 01:16 am, by:  Alen Sadikovic (Alen87) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah i should but cbf, apparently they are like $120 for a set or something
Rich O'neil
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90 Celsior

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Sunday, December 02, 2007 - 10:02 am, by:  Rich O'neil (Kiwiinaus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you feel inside the inner lip there is quite an edge there , if you have the plastic edging like the Celsiors have you can remove it and trim the inner lip off , this will give you almost 10 mm and you can't even see it .
If you do it with an angle grinder with a 1mm thick cut off blade and don't force it you won't damage anything .
Just make sure you clean up the ragged edge on the inside of the guard or the first time some one runs their fingers under there they will slice them .
Just as note about spacers , if you drill and tap the spacer to the hub with two 6 mm counter sunk screws , then it's not a spacer anymore as it's attached to the car !!
That's why the disc on the front and the disc/drum on the rear have two screws in them to hold them to the axle , other wise technically they would be spacers as well .
James Johnson
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Monday, December 03, 2007 - 07:47 pm, by:  James Johnson (Jamesy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Alen Sadikovic wrote on Sunday, December 02, 2007 - 01:16 am:

yeah i should but cbf, apparently they are like $120 for a set or something




i have a full set that i dont want you can have em for $20 or somthing they are ment to be stronger too..
Alen Sadikovic
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Monday, December 03, 2007 - 08:35 pm, by:  Alen Sadikovic (Alen87) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah alright james, why not. might put them on later or something. then i can lower it again, and can stop calling it a 4WD lol

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