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Joshua White
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SC400 GT V8 Supercharged

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Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 07:00 pm, by:  Joshua White (Joshua_88) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey guys, anyone know of a stroker kit for the 1uzfe, and would it be worth it?!
Dan McColl
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Victoria
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Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 07:46 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep, More than your car. lol

I can't remember where I saw it, Have a look around the archives and see what you find.
Gary Nimmo
TryHard
WA
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Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 09:17 pm, by:  Gary Nimmo (Gazzasore) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I though Neil was looking into doing one
Dennis Weglehner
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Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 06:19 pm, by:  Dennis Weglehner (2jzr31) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"would it be worth it?"

Not when you can already get a bigger UZ engines. Would make more sense to just use one of those.
Dan McColl
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Victoria
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Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 06:39 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Joshua White wrote on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 07:00 pm:

and would it be worth it?!


It depends on what you are trying to achieve.
Daniel Clarke
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NSW
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Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 08:11 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For the money spent on a storker Kit, it would be better spent on Cams, headwork and Forced induction..

However, If you MUST go for Most N/A power, then Yes Stroking it will definately help. Although it will probably cost you more than the purchase price of your car for the KiT and Machinework to get it all fitted.
Joshua White
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Qld
SC400 GT V8 Supercharged

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Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 08:21 pm, by:  Joshua White (Joshua_88) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey daniel, i have a supercharger already. but i was just thinking about bigger litreage
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
Twin Turbo

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Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 11:12 pm, by:  Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is this thread a result of your last one?

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/121829/144940.html?1175515030

Michael Long
TryHard
victoria
UZZ31

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Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 02:33 pm, by:  Michael Long (Longy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://ttcperformance.com/shop/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=10&Itemi d=2

4.3, 4.5 or 4.7 take your pick.
Don Bagnall
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Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 05:07 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For the price of a Stroker Kit for a One Ewe Zed!, you could have a MAJOR booze up of Intergalactic Proportions, plus hot & cold BJ's for a WEEK!!

Joshua White
Tinkerer
Qld
SC400 GT V8 Supercharged

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Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 08:21 pm, by:  Joshua White (Joshua_88) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maurice, it is and it isn't. like i said in that post i kept with him but just slipped beside him when he had traction. with hotter tires i should be able to give him a good flogging on a rolling start just not in the higher end. and Don, HOLY
SH@T! $7,700 for a 4.7litre stroker kit! you guys weren't joking!! i could have 12psi intercooled with that!!! and just blast him
Daniel Clarke
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Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 10:01 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And Joshua, IM sure you would have to get Custom Machine work to the Block for them to Fit, PLus Rods and Pistons to suit!!!!

Talking over 14K for a Crank, rods, Pistons and Bearings!!! without any Oil pumps or timing pieces or anything... Geezus!!!

I bought my car for 10k and spent 4k on it and Yeah..... WOw!
Miles Baker
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Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 11:07 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Custom Machine work"?

Mains should be the right size considering it's designed for the motor. Probably need to knock a bit off the bottom of the bores for the extra clearance for the rods is all.
Leon Wright
DieHard
WA
V8 UZZ31

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Friday, April 06, 2007 - 02:14 am, by:  Leon Wright (Techman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Who cares about cheap thrills anyway!
Daniel Clarke
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Friday, April 06, 2007 - 07:17 am, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Miles, Then it needs machine work dont it bud!

And if no one in AUS has done it before, then it will be custom, as they are gonna have to dummy fit the crank and rods and see what needs to be machined out.

Leon, Man if you got lotsa money and want to build it, then thats kewl! but it is robably the Worst Bang for Buck thing ive ever seen.

Hell, I even cough at the stroker kits for 1j's and 2j's! But they start at $3400.

That money could be spent somewhere else thats for sure!

If you worried about low down response, then chuck some NOS in it :-)
Leon Wright
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WA
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Friday, April 06, 2007 - 10:04 am, by:  Leon Wright (Techman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I aint got lotsa money :-(

I didn't buy the UZZ31 for it's speed, I wanted a V8! (oh and some cool toys to play with) But when I do get some money it will be getting some fun bits attached :-)
Daniel Clarke
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Friday, April 06, 2007 - 07:18 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Totally agree Leon. They are a Great car to drive!!!!

Lets not take that away from them:-)
Miles Baker
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Friday, April 06, 2007 - 09:27 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Daniel, yeah I guess if you call knocking some metal off with a die grinder "custom machine work". Doesn't really take an expert though. I wouldn't suggest it's expensive or going to stand in the way of installation.. it just takes an hour or so as you put the rotating assembly in. Very routine when doing a stroker motor.

I did some "custom paper work" earlier after I took a dump. It didn't raise the price of pulling up my pants though.
Peter Nitschke
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Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 12:33 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You have to pay for that?
Miles Baker
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Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 12:50 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, heavy equipment storage fee every time I put my old fella away.
Peter Nitschke
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Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 01:26 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds more like a search fee.
Daniel Clarke
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Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 09:35 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Miles,

Just because you can fabricate stuff, doesnt mean everyone is a " KNow It All".....

Removing sections from the bottom of the Bores to included a different stroked crank is what 99.9% of people would call Custom Machine Work! The othe 0.1% are People whom Own machine shops and will take on the work Happilly!!!!!!

Routine for stroker motors, But whom in AUS builds Custom 4.0Litre 1uZ's everyday???

Strokers arent OEM in design so therefor they need Custom fabrication to make them fit!

And next time you do your " Custom Paper Work" , Try and NOT Disturb the little Man Rowing the Boat Champ!!!

Nothing wrong with Constructive Criticism, but you always make people feel small or have to be better than Everyone..

Grow up CHamp!

p.s Call any machine shop in Aus and ask how long it will take them to install a stroker crank and assembly in a 1UZ Block!! Bet they say " Not sure mate NEver done one!"
Daniel Clarke
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Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 09:41 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Although for the price of the stroker parts, you could probably pick up a wrecked 4.3L from the SC430 or something similar and start with that:-)

or even the new 4.6L Version..

Now your talking:-)
Peter Nitschke
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Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 10:13 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guys, 50% of the problems are posts that could be written a little differently, but the other 50% is that posts could also be read differently.
David Phan
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Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 10:23 pm, by:  David Phan (Lextreme) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

FYI,


The 1uzfe block is stronger then 3uzfe (4.3L) block.
Miles Baker
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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 12:05 am, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dude I define machine work as something that requires specialised equipment and skills, like at a machine shop with mills and lathes.

If you got a mechanic to put a stroker kit into an engine he would knock the bottoms of the bores off (if required) with a die grinder, after informing you it may hit the water jacket and ruin the block. If you put your own engine together, you'd do it yourself, as it is less skill heavy than putting a bloody crank in.

No visit to the machine shop, no "custom machine work". I think we all know the initial intent of "custom machine work" was something expensive, probably intending to be a line bore of the mains or something like that.

That is not required, it is not fabrication, it is not expensive, it does not add to any difficulty or cost of installing a stroker.

Drop it and stop being confrontational. You stated that installing a stroker kit would require a lot of "custom machine work". Simply not true unless the crank is made with the wrong main size or something. So seriously, cut it out and butt out unless you have something actually meaningful to add.

My comment is constructive. I sought to correct a misconception that may have discouraged someone from further investigating a stroker. Now you pipe up with your BS..

Question: ever put a motor together? A stroker? If not then how are you qualified to be telling people what exactly they will need to have done when building one?

Nowhere did I try and make anyone feel small. I added information to correct a wrong comment.
Daniel Clarke
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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 05:58 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Answer Yes i Have built a Stroker 6 cylinder engine and also a Stroker windsor.

Because i did not know the exact dimensions of things to be machined i took them to a machine shop for assembly.

Thus being told BY the workshop and also on the invoice at the time as Custom Machine work.

Anyways, Seems you still dont see my point.

Just because you dont see it as custom work, doesnt mean everyone else is the same as you mate.

Hell, people even say an INtercooler fitment can be "custom Work" Even though there are kits off the shelf that are bolt on!

NOwhere did i say it needs or requires A lot of work, Just some work!

Lets just agree to dissagree mate.
Miles Baker
DieHard
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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 07:14 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah right whatever
Lew Radbourn
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Queensland
jzs147 92 / 95 jzz31 98' / jzz30 ute92' / uzz30 93'/ 2 X uzz31 92' s

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Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 07:37 am, by:  Lew Radbourn (Marlew) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hahhahahaha
LOVE THIS THREAD.
I was told several years ago that
Hp= money and lots of it.
My own V8 is starting to be a real money pit
so far parts alone for the bottom end $4500
Machining of parts in the bottom end $1800-2000
(should be finished next week)
head work $2500
then the assembly costs,

that is with out all the hang on items outside the block eg; computer, forced induction parts
water pump etc.

stroking the motor has never come into the equation.
forced induction
will be a twin screw supercharger (whipple 305r)
complete with intercooler, bug catcher
so....
STROKED nar I'd rather be BLOWN

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