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Neil Griffiths
Goo Roo
NSW
I have a Cadillac and a Supercharged Manual V8

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Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 06:11 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Naaaa.

KKR Intercooler for $370 :-)
Tai Johnsen
TryHard
QLD
UZZ31 - V8

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Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 06:31 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Both of those are too expensive for my budget guys
Tai Johnsen
TryHard
QLD
UZZ31 - V8

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Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 04:27 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Kim Hunt
Tinkerer
nsw
SC400 GT-L UZZ31

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Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 11:01 pm, by:  Kim Hunt (Lxtasi) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

battery setup is nearly identicle to mine
Tai Johnsen
TryHard
QLD
UZZ31 - V8

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Monday, March 10, 2008 - 07:15 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kim, where did you run your earth point? I was thinking of going to that nice big bolt on the fuel tank...

I still need a few bits and pieces, how did you connect up to the original battery leads under the hood?
Kim Hunt
Tinkerer
nsw
SC400 GT-L UZZ31

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Monday, March 10, 2008 - 09:38 pm, by:  Kim Hunt (Lxtasi) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well i ran 1 2 gauge earth to the nice big bolt on fuel tank but i sanded the surface to get a good connection on the metal, i ran another earth to the r/h strut tower bolt with the same prepporation and last but not least i used an old positive 4 gauge wire that previously supplied power to my after market amp from the fuel tank earth to the front left strut tower with the wire running through the interior of the car. now the engine bay consist of 2 2 gauge grounds coming from either side of the strut towers to a bolt on the side of the head near the exhaust manifolds.i also ran some 8 gauge wire the the earth that i am using for my 2 thermo fan relays for my intercooler and transmission and the intercooler pump relay just for added asurrance.

no i ran 2 gauge positive for the 240amp rating. i went from the gold plated jaycar battery terminals to a 500amp (red toggle isolator switch like you see on most drag cars) to a 200amp fuse (because i couldn't get a 240amp circuit breaker from jaycar), then from their i went down through a plug in the pare tire wheel well, then fed it under the car (making sure it is above all suspension components like axles etc...) till i got the plastic trothing which i fed the wire through till i got to the front right wheel well which i then went under the plastics and through a hole in the inside of the guard and made sure i had enough length to get to the starter motor.

now i cut the original positive wires from the starter and the fuse box. i then connected the positive that came straight from the battery to the starter motor and also ran a 2 gauge wire from the starter motor to the fuse box.

make sure you use good ring terminals, battery terminals and make sure you solder all connections and insulated well with heat shrink not tape. tape will unwravel.the 2 gauge wire is very expensive! well i think thats it i hope i didn't confuse anyone i have pics that i will post up
Kim Hunt
Tinkerer
nsw
SC400 GT-L UZZ31

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Monday, March 10, 2008 - 10:03 pm, by:  Kim Hunt (Lxtasi) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i covered all red wires up with that black condute stuff aswell not you can see anything.

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sorry haven't got pics of grounds and the + wire that goes to the fuse. hope i helped
Tai Johnsen
TryHard
QLD
UZZ31 - V8

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Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 07:35 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Kim!

The info and pictures are great...

I wish I had that much room where your battery is... I have the factory amp to contend with..

I don't think I am keen enough to go directly to the starter motor.. I'll try going straight to the original terminal location.

I had another delivery today, this time from the US of A..

I wanted to keep an eye on the boost and vacuum level but i'm not a fan of the analogue gauges.

After a bit of searching I came across VEI systems gauges and thought they were pretty cool. I reckon digital will suit the soarer and they come in blue to match the blue LED addiction, and they are very well priced and there are heaps of different types.

Another thing I wanted to keep an eye on is water temp.. So rather than just having a guess that the temp is somewhere between C and H, so I got the water temp gauge too.

Here is a vid of the boost gauge
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3885577415922981985

and another http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7954183761671496036

You can set peak hold , full scale boost value, intensity etc..


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I plan on putting them side by side in my center console below the head unit.
Kim Hunt
Tinkerer
nsw
SC400 GT-L UZZ31

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Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 09:31 pm, by:  Kim Hunt (Lxtasi) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so what is the site where you purchased those gauges? i think i might get some
Tai Johnsen
TryHard
QLD
UZZ31 - V8

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Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 11:14 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.veisystems.com/home.html

Very easy to buy and pretty quick delivery.

For both gauges, temp sender and express post was $250 US.

They are pretty neat :-) full aluminium case, they seem to be very nicely made.
Braden Murdoch
DieHard
NSW
Cressida 1JZ TT

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Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 03:57 pm, by:  Braden Murdoch (Ribfeast) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cheers for the link, those gauges look really great!
Gareth Richards
TryHard
Bristol UK
GTT-L twin turbo auto / Aristo Mk1 TT / Lexus GS300 SE Mk2

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Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 05:40 pm, by:  Gareth Richards (Garethr) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Kim Hunt wrote on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 09:38 pm:

......the 2 gauge wire is very expensive......


I've seen recommendations to use welder cable for the battery relocation, because it's less expensive than "battery relocation cable".

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Tai Johnsen
TryHard
QLD
UZZ31 - V8

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Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 07:22 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, damn straight Gareth..

I got mine from BOC Gas and Gear.. They had a few different sizes. I got the 52mm^2 stuff. It's double insulated too and will handle a gazillion amps. It was about $20 per meter.
Tai Johnsen
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QLD
UZZ31 - V8

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Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 01:43 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Update on progress....

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/282/237592.html?1205754489
Paul Mainey
Tinkerer
nsw
V8

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Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 03:00 pm, by:  Paul Mainey (Gttv8) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Things seem to be moving along nicely Tai.

I have the same Lex Motorsport supercharger bracket for my V1 in my soarer. It certainly makes life easier.

Those gauges look good. I have a set of Dakota Digital gauges in mine with black bezels and a teal display. Which suits my black interior and standard instrument lighting. I'm currently working on a custom 3 gauge holder.

I also moved my battery to the boot. Like you, I ran the cable straight to the original positive terminal in the engine bay with an isolation switch located in my centre console. My initial problem I had was the battery no supplying enough amps to start the car. I bit the bullet and got a sealed 1000CCA battery. Works like a charm.

I'll have to post up some pics of the whole thing once I'm happy with it all.

Good luck
Tai Johnsen
TryHard
QLD
UZZ31 - V8

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Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 06:20 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Paul,

Thanks for the comment..

The battery I am using is a Bosch 550CCA, hopefully it's upto the task.. What size wire did you use?

I would love to see some pics of your setup.
Paul Mainey
Tinkerer
nsw
V8

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Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 06:35 pm, by:  Paul Mainey (Gttv8) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No worries Tai.

I'll have to take some photos. It's all back in pieces and locked away about 4 hours from where I live now. So it's grinded to a halt at the moment.

Looking forward to getting back at easter and playing around with it.

It's running a Haltech E8 with wideband and 14psi with 440cc injectors, mal reg, and walbro pump. Rush supercharger headers with a twin 3" stainless exhaust, which is a bit loud at the moment till I can sort out the cats and balance pipe. 600x300x100 cooler and oil cooler up front.

As for the wire for the battery relocation, I grab a welding lead from work and cut that up. You gotta love free
Tai Johnsen
TryHard
QLD
UZZ31 - V8

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Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 08:21 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How are you running 14psi? Do you just have a small pulley? or have you changed all the pulleys? or run a separate belt?

I was told that greater than 10psi will slip.

How did the inter-cooler fit up? easy to squeeze that size in?

Are you running the wideband off one bank? or in a merge point..? A wideband setup is still on the cards for me..

TJ
Paul Mainey
Tinkerer
nsw
V8

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 02:11 pm, by:  Paul Mainey (Gttv8) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah Tai,

I'm running a smaller pulley. No slippage yet, but it hasn't been run that much.

As for the cooler, it was one of the easiest install I've done yet. I'm using some aluminium angle that run the entire width of the chassis rail with spacers to locate the cooler high enough. Fit's in with the standard washer bottle still located above it, which I need as I had to remove the other one from the passenger wheel well to fit the piping.


The wideband will run off a common pipe before the diff where the two 3" systems come together before splitting again. I'm still working on getting the exhaust sorted.
Tai Johnsen
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UZZ31 - V8

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 11:28 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Awesome.... Good to know that there is still room to play with the pulley sizes :-)

I have the same size cooler (but 76 deep, not 100) so hopefully my install goes in as easy..

I don't think I have a washer bottle up front i'll have a closer look... I think I have one in the passenger side 1/4 panel...

Are you going to use the wideband for on the fly tuning? or for indication only?

It's cool to have someone with a similar install to bounce ideas off.. :-)
Paul Mainey
Tinkerer
nsw
V8

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Friday, March 21, 2008 - 05:23 pm, by:  Paul Mainey (Gttv8) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You'll have no problems mounting the cooler.

Give me your email address and I'll send you some photos of the cooler and some of the other pics.

I'll use the wideband for tuning.

I got back home today and started pulling the car apart again to make a few changes.
Tai Johnsen
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UZZ31 - V8

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Monday, March 31, 2008 - 08:18 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the pics paul...

Not very much progress to report on, been too busy with life.... :-)

I got my hands on two more 7M-GTE injectors and will get them cleaned and flow tested with new o-rings etc hopefully this week... Then I'll see if I can sort out the fuel pump, so worst case it'll be ready for a basic tune on the new injectors at atmo..

TJ
Dennis Weglehner
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R31 Skyline with 2JZGTE and A340E

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Wednesday, April 02, 2008 - 12:41 pm, by:  Dennis Weglehner (2jzr31) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like a good blowjob Tai. You got a shift kit yet? Prob a good idea to fit the shiftkit before you finish the blower or you will fry your trans.
Tai Johnsen
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UZZ31 - V8

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Wednesday, April 02, 2008 - 04:34 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Got the injectors done today, they were pretty decent, but came out perfect after a clean :-) new seals, filters and o-rings too

Yeah, still gotta get the shift kit..

Wanna help me put it in at my place Dennis 'ol buddy? You should be able to do it with your eyes closed by now!!

You could even help me sus out my oil return!!
Paul Drane
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V8 Limited

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Wednesday, April 02, 2008 - 06:18 pm, by:  Paul Drane (Paulwd) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fit a trans cooler while your at it Tai.
Tai Johnsen
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UZZ31 - V8

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Wednesday, April 02, 2008 - 07:49 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

True, is there much involved?

Does anyone have pictures or info? :-)
Dennis Weglehner
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R31 Skyline with 2JZGTE and A340E

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Friday, April 04, 2008 - 08:46 pm, by:  Dennis Weglehner (2jzr31) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can give you a hand but you can be the one who gets a face full of oil when you pull the old VB out. :p
Tai Johnsen
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UZZ31 - V8

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Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 09:27 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Weekend update...

I removed a butt load of stuff off the car..

Removed the front bumper (what a mission) and removed lots of plastic things in the way of everything..

Removed the 42L windscreen washer bottle!! Seriously, it's frikking huge!! If you wanna improve your 1/4 mile time drain the bugger!! Could come in handy if stuck in a desert though... detergent could be a problem..

Got some angle aluminium from mitre 10 and hung the inter-cooler (just jap 600x300x76 for $175 delivered)

and routed the battery cable into the engine bay..

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This is my oil filter assembly...


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What's to stop me undoing one of those plugs and taking my oil feed from there? Rather than doing the whole t-piece from the pressure sender?
Dennis Weglehner
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R31 Skyline with 2JZGTE and A340E

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Monday, April 07, 2008 - 11:41 am, by:  Dennis Weglehner (2jzr31) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is it just me, or is the FMIC mounted with the outlets being obstructed by body work? I'm pretty sure my brothers didn't need any trimming in those areas.
Daniel Clarke
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TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Monday, April 07, 2008 - 05:38 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its been mounted too high and too far back.. Needs to sit a little further forward towards the nose and also lower.. I have mine sitting nice and neat and all the plastic undertrays still fit on to keep it looking stock.

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