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Adam Chytra
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Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 08:03 pm, by:  Adam Chytra (Soarpra) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Neil Griffiths wrote on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 07:52 pm:

It now resides in the SUMP :-)




No, it's not sitting next to the two washers from the standard head bolts as i blocked all the galleries with rags. And they're bloody big units.

-not copper

-yes torqued in sequence

-brand new ARP

-same

-one poofteenth of a 'thou as they were very flat

Something doesn't add up, and I bet it's something real basic that went wrong
Daniel Clarke
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Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 08:53 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Incorrect torque setting?

Can be easy to not adjust torque wrench properly when rushing things or not on your game... Would make sense!

WOuld the new Cometic gaskets need to be torqued harder than factory ones?
Dave Rose
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Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 11:41 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this is a long shot! check the torque reading on the other head ,how much has it changed .
this would clear up stretching studs theory?
Matthew Sharpe
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Monday, June 16, 2008 - 07:06 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Adam Chytra wrote on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 07:53 pm:

The heads ore obviously still lifting, but I've never heard of having to re-torque head bolts before,




Common on '70's BL engines, not so on Japanese cars. Even on the UK lumps that did need re-torquing, it usually wasn't until you had done some thousands of miles.

Could it be a faulty gasket? Might be worth approaching the gasket manufacturer?
Neil Griffiths
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Monday, June 16, 2008 - 07:10 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Dave Rose wrote on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 11:41 pm:

check the torque reading on the other head




You can't, as they a 2 x 90 Degree.


Adam Chytra wrote on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 08:03 pm:

brand new ARP




Bolts or Studs ?

If bolts, compare the length to a stock bolt.
( This will remove the doubt that they * Bottomed Out * )


Adam Chytra wrote on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 07:53 pm:

re-torque head bolts




Can't do this with Degree torqued bolts.
Neil Griffiths
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Monday, June 16, 2008 - 07:11 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

May I add,
Both the 1J and 1UZ head bolts are disposable after they have been used ONCE.
Adam Chytra
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Monday, June 16, 2008 - 08:36 pm, by:  Adam Chytra (Soarpra) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They're studs, so could not have bottomed out.


Neil Griffiths wrote on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 07:11 pm:

May I add,
Both the 1J and 1UZ head bolts are disposable after they have been used ONCE.




Yeah, I've got standard ones lying around everywhere. Can re-use ARP studs though. Cometic MLS gaskets -shagged in about six places. The deck was cleaned and prepared properly, heads machined, studs torqued down right, everything was right. The only other possibility was the deck has warped (doubtful). Was making far more power than the 363kw atw we had made previously, and well... couldn't handle it. Anyway, one more attempt at this motor before we build one properly (I've already bought two motors). Leave the boost about 12-14psi and try to make it last. Not going to keep throwing good money after bad here. To do it right the block really needs to be O-ringed and 1/2 inch head studs used. This will happen when we do the motor right the first time (or third?)

Thanks guys for all your suggestions, especially Neil - I honestly didn't pick the problem as rooted gaskets again. Gonna have to back it off a bit for a while, but you know what it's like, once you've had a taste.....
Adam Chytra
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Monday, June 16, 2008 - 08:46 pm, by:  Adam Chytra (Soarpra) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

On a more positive note:

As strange as it may seem - It's actually been heaps of FUN pulling it apart and putting it back together again. I've learned heaps along the way over the last few weeks
Daniel Clarke
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Monday, June 16, 2008 - 10:01 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Was it tuned on C16 and you have been running pump gas with the same boost + tune?
Jeff Bedsor
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Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 03:17 pm, by:  Jeff Bedsor (Jeff_bedsor) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't think anyone has asked before, but did you ever actually get the head crack tested?
Neil Griffiths
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Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 07:21 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its definatly wierd thats for sure..hahah

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