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Shadi Khodr
Tinkerer
vic
v8

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Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 03:35 pm, by:  Shadi Khodr (Mr_sammy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i drive a 1991 soarer limited edition i want a super charge but dont know the prices
Gianni Matrogiannis
TryHard
nsw
SC400 V8

Posts: 265
Reg: 08-2005

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Friday, June 05, 2009 - 01:30 pm, by:  Gianni Matrogiannis (Gianni) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To properly setup a supercharger system on a stock v8 will cost you 10-15k.
Mario Lentini
Tinkerer
Queensland
UZZ32 V8

Posts: 51
Reg: 07-2005

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Friday, June 05, 2009 - 04:23 pm, by:  Mario Lentini (Lexus94) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Shadi , PM sent ....
Scott Casey
TryHard
nsw
soarer v8

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Friday, June 05, 2009 - 06:25 pm, by:  Scott Casey (V8soarer_1991) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

$6,000 - $6,500 if you fit it yourself

http://bulletcars.com/superchargers/toyota/toyota-soarer-v8-lexus-ls400-supercharger-system.html
Gianni Matrogiannis
TryHard
nsw
SC400 V8

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Friday, June 05, 2009 - 06:45 pm, by:  Gianni Matrogiannis (Gianni) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dont forget you still need the following to set it up properly

1. fuel system i.e pump and injectors $1000 installed

2. after market ecu minimum $2000 installed.

3. shift kit and stall converter $1000 installed.

4. exhaust system $2000 installed

5. all the little extras that no one thinks about. clamps, hoses, oil catch cans, seals etc. $500 at minimum

and thats to get a mild setup with about 220rwkws. and thats if you do it correct the first time and you experience no problems. Then you will have the inevitable problem of always wanting more and therefore spending more. I dont think there is a single person on this forum that can honestly say that they bought a standard v8 soarer and spent only $6000 only to supercharge it.
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
NSW
V8 Ltd manual

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Friday, June 05, 2009 - 06:58 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

He asked for a supercharger, not a specific rwkw. Therefore, he needs little or nothing of what you said, at any price. How does a shift kit improve rwkw? Apart from which, spending $2,000 on a new and sufficient exhaust proves only that you are a crap buyer.
Grant Iskov
Tinkerer
NSW
Black on Black UZZ31 Manual SC V8

Posts: 37
Reg: 04-2008

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Friday, June 05, 2009 - 08:38 pm, by:  Grant Iskov (Granti) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 01:27 am, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

David, Gianni owns a pretty tough supercharged V8 , so im guessing he is providing figures that he has spent on those items ....

Price on exhaust ??? Its all about who you know sometimes :-)
Andrew Duaso
Tinkerer
Victoria
V8

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Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 02:05 am, by:  Andrew Duaso (Andrewd) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if you think about it.... if your going to the trouble of a s/c you want good bits to back it up...

so extractors, 2 highflow metal cats, atleast 2.5" mandrel bent piping and decent mufflers is going to be on the waaaaaaaay high side of $1000

sure you can throw together a cheaper system, but spent the money and do things once!

i did a s/c kit on another car i once had, and 10k is about right

6k for the kit, but then you want more power... and you will, cos thats the reason for the kit in the 1st place..

so the kit's dont include a exhaust, so add that..

then add prettymuch all he's mentioned, and time setting it all up and tuning it and there's 10k easy on a soarer..

i honestly doubt that if you had a factory stock soarer and just threw on a s/c kit anyone would be happy with the result
Gianni Matrogiannis
TryHard
nsw
SC400 V8

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Reg: 08-2005

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Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 07:44 am, by:  Gianni Matrogiannis (Gianni) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

David i mentioned the shift kit as a safety for the auto, the importance of which has been mentioned numerous times on this forum

In regards to exhaust systems by the time you buy the extractors ($660), a set of cats (at least $200 each) the add an x pipe, mufflers and possibly hotdogs and installation i think $2000 is pretty close (assuming you have no friends in the industry).

any way the reason why i mentioned all this is just to give shadi a heads up on what to expect. realisticly though a v8 with exhaust and a bfi can make 140-150 rwkws. installing a supercharger on its own would probably only produce about 170-180rwkws. As andrew said, to make it worth while other mods are needed. thats my opinion anyway
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
NSW
V8 Ltd manual

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Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 07:55 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, funnily enough, they can be happy with the result. Had Gianni said, "Consider that if you are spending that much then you are likely also to want these." it would have been good information to someone who, from their initial post, had not done much research or else they would already have known the cost anyway. Instead, they sound like necessities to the uninitiated but are necessary only to maximise performance, whereas a supercharger with no more than a cheap BFI will make a huge difference to mid-range torque and still boost power 25+%. Other changes may make sense in context but they remain optional, especially on a street car and especially given the specific question.

That is why the response vexed me at the time.
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
NSW
V8 Ltd manual

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Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 07:56 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Posts crossed but I see agreement now.
Gianni Matrogiannis
TryHard
nsw
SC400 V8

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Reg: 08-2005

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Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 08:10 am, by:  Gianni Matrogiannis (Gianni) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

fair enough david i see your point. But i mention that the list is required to "properly" set up a supercharger i.e get the maximum out of it. Anyway all these items dont all need to be done in one hit. They are just a wish list for people with superchargers
Mario Lentini
Tinkerer
Queensland
UZZ32 V8

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Monday, June 08, 2009 - 08:04 pm, by:  Mario Lentini (Lexus94) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think if Shadi wants to get started get a good kit and there are a few around now , use a good second hand M90 and fit extractors and exhaust .I found a good M90 off e-bay out of the USA and cost me $450 to the door . I know what your saying Gianni about doing it right the first time but there will be nothing wrong with the set up if he keeps the boost down and then if he wants to get more out of it go to a Whipple and start spending some money on the parts your talk about , I would say your right with the shift kit , I think that's one thing you need if running the Supercharger or not . I was running 5.5psi with all stock parts apart from exhaust and made 174rwkws . This was on my UZZ32 so there go's about 15Kw to drive that dam pump from what Peter Scott worked out .
Joshua White
TryHard
Qld
Supercharged GT Soarer

Posts: 398
Reg: 11-2006

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Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 08:16 pm, by:  Joshua White (Joshua_88) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i'm POSSIBLY selling my Yella Terra 1500 which is basically an m90 lol. wanna get a more efficient blower for higher boost.

I've downed two engines already so i'd put the money aside and do it ALL right the first time cause i learnt the hard way.

Without a shift kit and even go as far as LSD you'll be getting let down from the engine back so i'd atleast shift kit it for sure.

If you're looking positive displacement i'd get onto Neil cause he'd do up a full kite for the supercharger side of things.

IF i sell mine soon it'll be blower and manifold. 10PSi.
Mark Wright
Tinkerer
berkshire
v8

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Reg: 05-2009

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Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 07:57 am, by:  Mark Wright (Lexp48) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can anyone tell me what bhp gains I can expect by adding a bfi and exhaust on a stock '31?
Khris Cox
TryHard
NC
SC400 supercharged

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Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 02:57 am, by:  Khris Cox (Kc95sc400) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have to agree with Gianni, the supporting mods can make a big difference.

I've lost track of how much I've spent but probably around US $7000, likely more.

But, I have roughly a 100% power increase to show for it.

KC

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