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Robert Davies
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Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 06:48 am, by:  Robert Davies (Blueone) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all, well into my turbo project, have the turbo, turbo location mapped out, as welll as the fuel system installed.

Alloy fuel cell, alloy surge tank, Bosch 910 to lift fuel into surge tank.

Bosch 044 to feed fuel rail.

Is there a good bolt up rising fuel reg for the SC400?

Bought a Garret GT35/40 from an XR6 turbo, its an upgraded one, with bigger inlet housing and stuff, but suits 4.0L motor, so should do me fine on the V8.

I have moved my engine forward and done lots of body work to high mount this at the rear of the block above the gearbox.

I have the later model fuel rail on my engine (cast alloy)?? Is this better or worse than the early billet fuel rail?

Would you run either of the standard type fuel rails??
What injectors?

I wanna run around the 6-10psi range initially, so I guess I am up for a piggy back minimum or stand-alone ECU, with a stand alone can I still have the digital dash?

My big question is, can I get away without running the cometic gaskets and the ARP head studs? (at least initially) I dont care too much about the motor as its 250k+ so I am looking to put a new motor in down the track which is fully rebuilt.


1: Which fuel rail, early or late?
2: What fuel regulator?
3: What computer?
4: Can I leave the head bolts and gaskets stock?
Blake Gloyn
DieHard
manawatu
soarer JZZ30 TT

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Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 07:26 am, by:  Blake Gloyn (Blakenz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dude, that's an unusual place for a turbo! can we have a photo perhaps? 6 psi , i would leave it standard, but 10 psi is getting up there with 10:1 compression. when you do the built motor, you can use steel head gaskets from the later v8, i think it's called a 2UZ.
My mate has a twin turbo 1UZ drag supra, which is stock internally(bottom end). he enlarged the chambers in the heads to drop the compression ratio, used the aforementioned gaskets, used ARP head studs, and the rest is stock. the car runs at 18-20 psi and does 9.7 at 137mph. A Link ECU controls 2 mitsubishi VR4 ignitors which fire 8 falcon coils.
I have a haltech E6X in the for sale section if it suits your needs.
all the best. my bet is that you will have power EVERYWHERE with that turbo/motor combination :-)
Andrew Meiers
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Victoria
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Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 08:14 pm, by:  Andrew Meiers (Acmtt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Robert, the guys on
http://www.v-eight.com/tech_forum/index.php? have a few more turbo eights, well worth a look. There are a couple of turbo Soarers around, Damien Smith, Adam Chynta ? and Peter Chriss come to mind. Most guys run the engine at 6-10 psi without decompressing, with an intercooler.
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 09:19 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SOunds like an interesting build, but i have to ask .. Why on earth would you put the turbo right where no airflow gets to ?
Robert Davies
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Monday, September 07, 2009 - 06:48 am, by:  Robert Davies (Blueone) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've come to the conclusion that I will need an intercooler too....

Probably an inline water to air one....
David Marriott
Tinkerer
NSW
V8

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 07:42 pm, by:  David Marriott (Blo400) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In answer to your question "Is there a good bolt up rising fuel reg for the SC400?"

I my humble opinion there is no such thing as a good rising rate reg! Everyone uses Malpassi 1.7 or 2.1:1 regs as bandaid solution to having too small injectors for their application. Vortech products are another option but again still the poormans solution to simply fitting the correct flow injectors.

Ask any real tuner who knows there stuff and they will tell you how unstable they are with temp changes.

Get the right injectors in the first place and stick with the factory 1:1 rising rate reg you already have. The only real need to change it is if you have a real big fuel pump(s)and your fuel pressure at idle is too high (ie the std reg cannot return the full fuel flow) or if you want to spend all the cash to make it look purdy...
Scott Casey
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nsw
soarer v8

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Friday, September 11, 2009 - 05:16 pm, by:  Scott Casey (V8soarer_1991) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

for direct replacement injectors have a look at

http://www.lextreme.com/injectors.htm

mate is a master mechanic for ford and he mentioned that you should look for a typhoon turbocharger
Robert Davies
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Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 09:26 am, by:  Robert Davies (Blueone) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey mate, I have some 450cc injectors, Bosch 044 fuel pump, so with that, I could keep the standard regulator?

Sweet... I will do that, cheers for your response!
Christian Somerville
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South Australia
UZZ31 V8 LTD

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 04:16 pm, by:  Christian Somerville (Csomers) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hows it all goin mate?
Robert Davies
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Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 08:27 pm, by:  Robert Davies (Blueone) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Got it all mounted and got 6 of the green top 315cc injectors, so working forward.
Jamie Richards
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St.john's
v8

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Friday, October 30, 2009 - 02:52 am, by:  Jamie Richards (Nwb40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

post up some pic's would love to see how it looks
Christian Somerville
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Friday, October 30, 2009 - 09:40 am, by:  Christian Somerville (Csomers) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds great Rob.
Robert Davies
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Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 08:17 pm, by:  Robert Davies (Blueone) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

doing stainless piping and stuff right now, will take photos hopefully be finished before christmas.

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