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Vinny Ozorio
Tinkerer NT Z30 Soarer V8
Posts: 90 Reg: 05-2007
| Damian....correct in "Both" regards...from memory one of the knock sensers was also effected..as well as the heater line.. I havn't had a play with the Bullet manifolds so can't comment but for a full run down ask grand-pa why a heap had to be scrapped due to incorrect casting and machining.. |
Nathan Richardson
TryHard N.T. UZZ 32 #445 (V8 Supercherged 5Speed)
Posts: 196 Reg: 02-2006
| Hey all, so the heads are done and the cams have arrived. http://www.camshaftshop.co.nz/index.php/1UZ-FE/207-S2-Camshaft/camshaftshop_view.tpl.html Once they are back in, should be on the dyno again. Whilst it was apart, I had the water pump, cam belt and distributer replaced and the starter motor serviced. So that should be a few things that wont need looking at for a while. So some final dyno figures should'nt be too far away. Cheers. |
Nathan Richardson
TryHard N.T. UZZ 32 #445 (V8 Supercherged 5Speed)
Posts: 199 Reg: 02-2006
| Ok well still no news as yet, I might make a call tomorrow to see where we are at. However, last time I talked to Bullet, I was thinking the new ported heads and larger cams will probably lower the boost due to less restriction. So we decided to tune as is and see what we might have to play with as far as increasing the boost further. I might look at a water/meth injection kit and control it with the Wolf V500 and Damian has suggested. Just depends on where my account at with Bullet, and how much tax I get back, haha. Anyway, both Bullet and myself are pretty eager to see what we get. My 300rwkw goal by the end of the year might just come true, fingers crossed. Vinny, we will have to catch up some time once I get the old girl up here, let you take it for a spin. For some reason I thought your Soarer was bottle fed, someone else maybe? Hmmmmm, shame, I was going to ask who did the work. |
Vinny Ozorio
Tinkerer NT Z30 Soarer V8
Posts: 99 Reg: 05-2007
| Nathan JDM did the bottle work on "%$#@#$ car..it has since been sold but the bottle ..will rise again lol |
Nathan Richardson
TryHard N.T. UZZ 32 #445 (V8 Supercherged 5Speed)
Posts: 202 Reg: 02-2006
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Vinny Ozorio wrote on Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 09:53 pm:Nathan JDM did the bottle work on "%$#@#$ car..it has since been sold but the bottle ..will rise again lol
Interesting. It might be something I might look at once I have built up the bottom end. The heads should have been back yesterday with the cams installed, re-shimmed, etc. So hopefully the engine will be back together and road tested by the end of the week. Dyno.... Hopefully next week sometime, fingers crossed. Final figure.... As above if nothing breaks. Knowing my luck, something will and I'll end up deciding to completely rebuild the engine from the ground up along with the drive train. Well, we will see I guess. Cheers, Rich. |
Raj Somarouthu
Tinkerer Scotland Soarer V8
Posts: 26 Reg: 07-2009
| Hey any update on this project Nathan? |
Ben Creswick
Tinkerer NSW V8
Posts: 24 Reg: 06-2006
| updates!!!! |
Neil Griffiths
Goo Roo NSW I have a Cadillac and a Supercharged Manual V8
Posts: 4847 Reg: 07-2005
| Nathan, I just read the new ZOOM Mag. I noticed that Bullet now classify MY EXTRACTORS as there own ! * This is the second time * Also The Rod Shops Bellhousing ( CRS ) as there own. |
Christian Somerville
TryHard South Australia UZZ31 V8
Posts: 111 Reg: 03-2009
| That's bull neil, you should take them to court ahah |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo NSW TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 5433 Reg: 03-2006
| Neil ... Go to town old Buddy !!! PLenty of soldiers willing to back ya up |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo New Zealand 4.0GT UZZ30
Posts: 3701 Reg: 11-2005
| Bloody ridiculous. Speaking of headers Neil, I have a send you a PM. |
Nathan Richardson
TryHard N.T. UZZ 32 #445 (V8 Supercherged 5Speed)
Posts: 206 Reg: 02-2006
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Ben Creswick wrote on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 01:50 pm:updates!!!!
Hey all, sorry for the delay. At this stage the Soarer is back together and running, tuning might be done by the end of the week, fingers crossed.
Neil Griffiths wrote on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 05:33 pm:Nathan, I just read the new ZOOM Mag. I noticed that Bullet now classify MY EXTRACTORS as there own ! * This is the second time * Also The Rod Shops Bellhousing ( CRS ) as there own.
Hi Neil, yes I have just seen that too, that Soarer looks very familiar also. Anyway, I cant speak for Bullet on this one, maybe they thought no one would notice? Well Ill let you know how it goes on the Dyno. Cheers. |
Nathan Richardson
TryHard N.T. UZZ 32 #445 (V8 Supercherged 5Speed)
Posts: 207 Reg: 02-2006
| G'day Guys, Well the results are in, and the UZZ32 managed 291rwkw @ 7500rpm on 11psi. I must say I'm stoked with the result, and would like to thank Bullet, Greg in particular, for all their help and effort putting this together, Cheers guys. So what now? Well I still want to hit the 300rwkw mark, so I think I will look at upgrading the intake and the exhaust further and up the boost to 14psi, this should see at least around 320rwkw I'd say. I believe the results that I have achieved (In a UZZ32 especially) just goes to show the efficiency of the new generation of Harrop/Eaton roots type superchargers, I'm impressed anyway. I'll post up the Dyno sheet next week some time and I'll try to get some pics up also. Look forward to hearing your opinions. Regards, Rich. |
Aaron Mead
Goo Roo NT Celsior 1UZ-FE Mines, JZZ30 1.5JZ-GTE To4z
Posts: 2486 Reg: 03-2006
| Sweet as pie!!! Im so glad to see the results, they are above and beyond what I expected. Ive been waiting and waiting to see how this turned out....and farkkkk 290kw at 11 p.s.i. Thats cooking I have a million questions, my main ones concern inlet temps. What were they? Did you intercool? Will you intercool for the 14 p.s.i.? What type of cooling if so..... Also, any chance of a run down of parts used? I dont ask for much, do I ? I was speaking to Greg late last year about the HTV kit, think Ill be talking to him again soon....celsior wiont be the same anymore |
Nathan Richardson
TryHard N.T. UZZ32 #445 (V8 Supercherged 5Speed. 291RWKW)
Posts: 208 Reg: 02-2006
| Thanks Aaron, Yeah, it no too shabby is it! I don't know what the inlet temps were, but it is not intercooled and I don't intend on it for 14psi either, we are just going to ensure the intake air is as cold as possible and increase the pipe diameter and throttle body to allow it to breath. I will look at water/meth for cooling once I go over the 15psi mark, but that will be a bit down the track at this stage, I want to get the funds together for forged internals. As far as the parts, off the top of my head: HTV1900 Kit, 440 injectors, Walbro fuel pump, Wolf V500 ECU, Kelford Cams, Bullet Ported heads, Extractors and exhaust. Rich. |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo NSW TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 5464 Reg: 03-2006
| Great results !!! Mind if i ask what its cost so far ? |
Aaron Mead
Goo Roo NT Celsior 1UZ-FE Mines, JZZ30 1.5JZ-GTE To4z
Posts: 2487 Reg: 03-2006
| Just thinking.... ~300rwkw ~UZZ32 ~Manually Shifted Yep. How it should be. |
Nathan Richardson
TryHard N.T. UZZ32 #445 (V8 Supercherged 5Speed. 291RWKW)
Posts: 209 Reg: 02-2006
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Daniel Clarke wrote on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 05:37 pm:Great results !!! Mind if i ask what its cost so far ?
All up, to get it where it is now, more than what I bought the car for in the first place 7 years ago, that should give a bit of an idea. Although there was the cam timing issue and some preventive maintenance that was done, such as the water pump, starter, distributer caps and buttons. These things start to add up after a while. As far as the price for the HTV1900 kit to suit the Soarer, that will have to come from Bullet.
Aaron Mead wrote on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 05:50 pm:Just thinking.... ~300rwkw ~UZZ32 ~Manually Shifted Yep. How it should be.
That's true, why didn't Toyota think of that in the first place, geeze! Hahahah. |
Paul Drane
DieHard QLD V8 Limited
Posts: 779 Reg: 07-2005
| Great result Nathan. Did you use the standard Toyota head gaskets or a thicker one to lower the comp a bit? |
Nathan Richardson
TryHard N.T. UZZ32 #445 (V8 Supercherged 5Speed. 291RWKW)
Posts: 210 Reg: 02-2006
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Paul Drane wrote on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 04:39 pm:Great result Nathan. Did you use the standard Toyota head gaskets or a thicker one to lower the comp a bit?
Hey Paul, thanks. We used Cometic head gaskets, CFM-20/.059. I believe. Standard thickness is .051 from memory. So should be slightly lower I guess, but not far from standard. Standard head bolts were used also. Cheers. |
Nathan Richardson
TryHard N.T. UZZ32 #445 (V8 Supercherged 5Speed. 291RWKW)
Posts: 211 Reg: 02-2006
| G'day all, here is the dyno sheet. Cheers.
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Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo NSW TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 5472 Reg: 03-2006
| Hmm, weird how the boost drops off as the revs rise ? |
Damian Ware
Goo Roo Victoria UZZ32
Posts: 1130 Reg: 10-2005
| Boost is relative to the blowers airflow and efficiency and the motors flow rate. Efficiency of the blower drops with rpm so you do normally get a reduction in air flow per turn and a slight drop in boost as rpm rises beyond 4500rpm. This is larger than normal for a stock 1uz but with aftermarket cams I have seen this sort of curve before. The variation appears to be only 2psi and this is perfectly normal with positive displacement superchargers. A mate of mines blown LS1 with cams had a variation from 7-9psi depending on rpm. |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo North Island JZZ31
Posts: 4734 Reg: 10-2005
| Wow, thats awesome! |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo New Zealand 4.0GT UZZ30
Posts: 3731 Reg: 11-2005
| That's insane. The goal for my Soarer V8 is to have over 210rwkw this time next year so your figure would be astronomically amazing. Hands down to you sir. Bugger them silly TT's! |
Andrew Duaso
TryHard Victoria V8
Posts: 345 Reg: 02-2009
| I had a variation of 0.5psi from 2000rpm till rpm cut on my old car with a positive disp blower but it wasn't set up to be a powerhouse engine, but an oem quality install. And that it was. But anyway immagine the torque! 600ish nm easy. I'd say a power curve like that would be really well suited to an auto. But manual burnouts everywhere lol |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo NSW TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 5474 Reg: 03-2006
| AHh yeah, forgot this is Pos displacement .... my bad, thanks for clearing that up Damian |
Paul Drane
DieHard QLD V8 Limited
Posts: 781 Reg: 07-2005
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Daniel Clarke wrote on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 09:04 am:AHh yeah, forgot this is Pos displacement .... my bad, thanks for clearing that up Damian :-)
The Eaton is still not a Positive displacement charger, but the impeller design is much improved over the old m90 and 112's. |
Damian Ware
Goo Roo Victoria UZZ32
Posts: 1135 Reg: 10-2005
| Err Paul yes it is. All eaton superchargers including M90's are positive displacement supercharges. |
Andrew Duaso
TryHard Victoria V8
Posts: 347 Reg: 02-2009
| yes as i understand the eatons dont build boost internally only in the manifold... i had an opcon that had internal compression, far more efficient than the eaton with much lower discharge temps |