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Michael Sinay
Tinkerer
NSW
TT

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Reg: 07-2005

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Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 03:31 pm, by:  Michael Sinay (Mikey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It would be sweet if they had gas injection on the market. People have been talking about it for years but still not available to us that i know of...
Neil Griffiths
Trader
NSW
I have MORE Soarers than Hayden :-)

Posts: 2007
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Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 08:27 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gas Injection IS in the making..They just havnt got the Hp per cylinder high enough yet..
They asked for a $50,000+ Investment to be involved...hahah I declined :-)

Sam..LPG has to run more advance in the timing to get the better power..( The VVT-i will be fighting this I would assume !! )As it runs + / - 30 Deg.*roughly*
The Higher the Comp Ratio, the better for LPG ( It preferrs an 11.0:1 Comp

Aslo something to consider...WHERE are you going to mount that HORRIBLE LPG filler ??

If you ran LPG ONLY..You could fill the original fuel tank spot.Then mount a 20-30 litre FUEL tank to the side ( For starting purposes and backup )
Tim Staier
Tinkerer
Qld
Lancer 1.8 CE

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Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 09:51 pm, by:  Tim Staier (Tradewind) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I came across this today seems suitable for this thread on hybrids

s the public realizes that gas prices aren't going to go down anytime in the near future, many are turning to hybrid cars as their salvation.
These cars are the most environmentally friendly - and supposedly fuel efficient - option for those who can't give up their vehicle and ride their 10-speed to work.

The Guardian tells us that a new report by Which?, a U.K. consumer magazine, shows that these cars aren't all they claim to be:

"The recently launched Honda Civic hybrid only managed between 28mpg and 34mpg on its test, well below the most fuel efficient petrol and diesel cars and nowhere near the 54mpg being claimed in Honda's literature. Tory leader David Cameron's new hybrid car, the Toyota Lexus RX400, recorded 25-34mpg during testing and consumed around twice as much fuel as the most fuel-efficient diesel car.

"The consumer body noted that its greenhouse gas emissions were 27% lower than a petrol Lexus, but said it was no less harmful to the environment than a standard family estate car."

So, if hybrids aren't going to save the world from high gas prices, what will? Outstanding Investments' Justice Litle argues that there is an oft-overlooked contender for the Car of the Future: the humble old diesel engine.

"When most people think about diesels, they think 'loud, dirty and smelly'
- a pollution nightmare. Except - surprise - those diesels you hear and smell are antiques. Thanks to new technology, diesels aren't so dirty anymore and the gas mileage is better than ever!

"You see, diesel gets about 30 percent more miles to the gallon than gasoline, and those savings are real, in any kind of driving conditions.
What's more, people who worry about global warming prefer diesel because it emits up to 20 percent less carbon dioxide.

"This is all well and good, but the kicker is this: you don't need crude oil to make diesel fuel."

[Ed. Note: You can make diesel fuel from coal, plant matter, or even cooking oil. In Justice's latest report, he explains how liquefied coal is one of the big technologies of the future no matter what, whether the diesel engine wins over the masses or not. But if diesel takes first place at the auto race, coal will be the biggest thing since folks traded in their horses for cars - and the time to get in on the diesel revolution is now.
Neil Griffiths
Trader
NSW
I have MORE Soarers than Hayden :-)

Posts: 2010
Reg: 07-2005

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Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 10:51 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

An NHW10 Prius is at this moment getting documented on its fuel consumtion on Suburban Driving AND a 1,000km Highway Trip :-)

Results this weekend.

Pity Australia's Diesel Quality isnt upto the Euro Standards :-( We CAN'T run the Engines they do in the UK. Our Sulpher content IS lowering ( came down lots last year )

Bio Diesel is also NOT the cleanest to run in a High Tech Diesel Engine.

A HOT Diesel engine will run on near anything that will combust :-) ( Even it's own engine oil ) heheheheheh * If you have a leaky Turbo Seal *
Lew Radbourn
DieHard
Queensland
jzz30 ute / uzz30/ 2 X uzz31

Posts: 827
Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 08:15 am, by:  Lew Radbourn (Marlew) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the tank will be not a drama just get a donut tank like the falcons used to use and rip out the spare wheel.
compressed natural gas may help with the gas supply but the cost and the equiptment needed at home would be a night mare
on good thing is you just plug it into ya house over night and away ya go
on a trip interstate you will be screwed
Matthew Sharpe
DieHard
North Island
3.0 GT

Posts: 910
Reg: 10-2005

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:04 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The number of flats I get, I'd be screwed if I did away with my spare.
Daniel Czechowski
DieHard
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T

Posts: 942
Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:58 am, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stuff hybrids and diesels! I reckon hydrogen technology is the definite way of powering cars in the future. We have a couple of buses in Perth that run on it. The biggest obstacle to mass market is the supply of hydrogen... the company I work for supplies it all to run those buses, but having it available to everybody, i.e. at all petrol stations, is much more difficult to achieve, both technically, financially and legally. (I don't think those rich oil sheiks would like to have a competing product sold on their turf) How hard would a hydrogen powered car go though? I would hope they would provide decent performance. If the performance and costs were right I'd jump at it!
Clayton Webb
TryHard
South Australia
'31 V8

Posts: 260
Reg: 09-2005

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 11:18 am, by:  Clayton Webb (Clackers) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.bmwworld.com/hydrogen/h2r_racer.htm
Daniel Czechowski
DieHard
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T

Posts: 944
Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 11:46 am, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting. Ok then, at least we won't compromise on performance much. Technology is there to mass produce hydrogen, so I guess it's only a matter of time... phew
Avin Luther
Goo Roo
vic
Soarer uzz31 Limited

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 09:23 pm, by:  Avin Luther (Lex_luther) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

nuclear cars?
Matthew Sharpe
DieHard
North Island
3.0 GT

Posts: 914
Reg: 10-2005

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 06:28 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Mr Fusion"

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