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Ollie Ernst
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Soarer V8 Limited

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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:14 am, by:  Ollie Ernst (Oli_g) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mike........I think the average on the mainland is somewhere around 20,000-25,000 per year which works out to between 400 and 500kms per week. That's roughly double your 200kms per week combined over the two vehicles.

As for oil coming back down, yeah I heard last night that the forecast was for around US$40 a barrel some time late next year. The problem is, as with everything, the oil companies know that once the punters get used to paying through the nose the stink will have died down somewhat so even if pump prices come back down, don't expect them to come down to previous levels of around $1.00 per litre. You know that the bulk of the money will be siphoned off as extra profits.

Michael Sinay
Tinkerer
TT

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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:51 am, by:  Michael Sinay (Mikey) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wish someone would hurry up and develop an LPG Injection system, they would clean up big time too, the way petrol prices are going.

When I was looking at LPG systems 4 yrs ago there was a company developing LPG Injection, but still nothing is available....
Travis Bentley
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TT

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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:58 am, by:  Travis Bentley (Kinny) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very interesting thread.

My 2 cents with my experience with LPG is that it isnt worth it, especially on a car like the soarer. It would cost alot to convert, and still wouldnt perform as good as the petrol (unless even more is spent).

Plus youve got the smells and the cheap air when you tell people :-)
David Vaughan
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Soarer GT-L (4.0 V8) Lexus is300 (3.0 VVT-i 6)

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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:59 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So, invest in oil companies. You have to win one way or the other.

This advice is given without consideration of any specific person's investment objectives, financial situation or needs. You should obtain your own financial advice before acting on any such recommendation
Simon Triantafillou
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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 11:22 am, by:  Simon Triantafillou (Soarer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Jeff Harper wrote on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 10:47 pm:

I just purchased a Toyota Prius from Japan for Kumiko and intend to import quite a few




Jeff, how is the Prius allowed in as an import? I thought since they are locally available, you couldn't bring them in (unless there is an exception I missed).

Either way, I'm currently looking at a second car, as the Soarer is getting way too costly to be a daily driver anymore.
Peter Nitschke
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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 11:32 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wait till you need a new set of batteries. :-(
Ollie Ernst
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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 11:43 am, by:  Ollie Ernst (Oli_g) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

First series of Prius Simon as it wasn't sold here. The locally available model is the second series.
Neil Griffiths
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1 x JZZ30,2 x UZZ31,1 x UZZ32,1 x UZZ Track Car,1 x AeroCabin,1 x Crown V8,1 x Celsior

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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 11:48 am, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter,,Batteries available ex Japan :-)
Not that expensive either..
Peter Nitschke
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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 11:49 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So would still be economical? Batt + Freight etc is still less that petrol costs?

Not so bad then. I thought I read somewhere that batteries for them cost big bikkies.
Mike Triggs
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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 12:18 pm, by:  Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually Ollie, the average (ABS, 1991) was 14,300 kms per annum. More recently the Office for Greenhouse Emmissions reported 15,000 kms pa average.

Whatever the cost is it's high, and more rmote places pay through the nose. That goes even more so for LPG, because of higher transport costs.
Simon Triantafillou
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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 12:50 pm, by:  Simon Triantafillou (Soarer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Ollie. Didn't realise there was a model out before the one that arrived here.
Neil Griffiths
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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 12:55 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

YEP...And some have Sat Nav..TV...DVD Players in em..heheheh
And the Japanese USE these cars big time..
There are some selling with just under 200,000k on em..hahahah
Mike Triggs
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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 01:16 pm, by:  Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's right Neil, many that I see have close to 200k on them. I thought about getting one but Imah hates the look (it's about the only Toyota she doesn't like...). I had heard that the batteries were pricey, too. There has been an ongoing saga on the online car magazine.. Autospeed, about this car.
Jeff Harper
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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 01:59 pm, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They were brought in as the early model, the NHW11.

Batteries are rated for (I think) 8 years and 400,000 miles in the USA, however Toyota said they built them for the life of the car.

I can get a new battery in Japan, much cheaper than new Turbo's!

The Autospeed article is about some doofus who tried to recharge the battery (which you should not have to do, he was being a dill getting a turbo fitted to the motor and he let his battery drain doing so) and nearly blew himself up.

Oh and it's 3.6 litres to the 100 BTW or 66mpg in the old school.

http://www.perthcars.com/prius.htm
Peter Nitschke
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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 02:25 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought the life of the car was 8 years?
Jeff Harper
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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 03:41 pm, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's a Toyota, not a Nissan!
Ian Johnston
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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 05:08 pm, by:  Ian Johnston (Ted) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The only gas going in my Soarer will be if I eat too menny beans
I dont drive mine every day, so is not as much of a problem. It is one of the very few pleasures in life to drive my Soarer, so I dont mind paying for the privaledge.
Travis Bentley
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TT

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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 05:37 pm, by:  Travis Bentley (Kinny) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I totally agree with you Ian, its still worth it, but it is something good to bitch about.

Funny people with like 1.6 litre lantras etc complain to me about petrol, i just laugh.

On the other hand the TT is quite economical if your not boosting much.

... On the other hand since my car is a weekend car its ususally being boosted :P
Benny Gammelmark
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V8 UZZ31

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Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 05:52 pm, by:  Benny Gammelmark (Oldfield) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, something like an Aristo as a run-around and the Soarer on the week-end sounds good.

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