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Ali Yazici
TryHard
Victoria
4.0L V8 GTL-L

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Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 02:37 pm, by:  Ali Yazici (Wa_ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Meh me, id go with a V8, I'm with Paul all the way...the instantaneous response you get from a V8 is nowhere near the same as a Turbo, regardless of the lag time.

Things that a Turbo is good for in my opinion are;

1. Petrol consumption
2. 1/4 mile runs
3. The chuchuchu noise haha
4. Drift

Things that a V8 is good for;

1. Cruises, god they are so comfortable
2. Track days and Circuits
3. The massive grunt from the big block and the exhaust
4. Cheaper to maintain
5. I have one
6. You get all the goodies that you don't get with a TT

Paul mate, I'm with you all the way, although personally, i would for out the 10K and get me one with the whole sunroof, reverse cam, etc

Then again, I'm a dumbass
Justin Hughes
Goo Roo
VIC
2.5 GT-T JZZ-30 212rwkw @ 15 psi

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Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 05:27 pm, by:  Justin Hughes (Juzza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ali Yazici wrote on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 02:37 pm:

...the instantaneous response you get from a V8 is nowhere near the same as a Turbo, regardless of the lag time.



Coming from a previous V8 Soarer owner, lover, advocate and lap record holder ... I have to say; "That single sentence is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever read on this Forum"

I've driven 4 Supercharged V8's and even my little 212rwkw TT OUT-THRUSTS them by a GREAT Margin. - TT POWER cannot be matched, even by a V8 Super.

I hope Neil can change my opinion on that when the Intercooled Blower is ready running decent Boost, but for now .... Pffffft TT's Rule.
Paul McConnell
Tinkerer
QLD
TT

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Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 06:12 pm, by:  Paul McConnell (Pt1) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justin, he was talking about response, not power/thrust/torque.
Justin Hughes
Goo Roo
VIC
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Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 06:30 pm, by:  Justin Hughes (Juzza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes I know. Using the correct technique, some concentration and anticipation, always ensures instantaneous response from a TT
Justin Hughes
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VIC
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Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 06:35 pm, by:  Justin Hughes (Juzza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

However ....... I do understand what your'e on about as I am still coming to grips with the sudden RUSH of POWER out of corners at PI in my TT.

In the V8 I just used to pretty much leave the right foot mashed to the firewall and brake/steer with the left

Im not knockin your project or your desires mate .... Its all good :-)
Paul McConnell
Tinkerer
QLD
TT

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Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 07:37 pm, by:  Paul McConnell (Pt1) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

intake tract length and airflow characteristics play a big part too. I know where you are coming from, the turbo rush is great, but not my thing.
Ali Yazici
TryHard
Victoria
Stock UZZ31 with Lexus Badges :-(

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Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 09:14 pm, by:  Ali Yazici (Wa_ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justin, as Paul pointed out i was referring to response....i mean sure using the correct techniques there's no doubt TT will out do a V8

When you take off from a stand still without having to pre-launch the car to 2500rpm, which car do you think actually provides wheel spin? lol

From your ranking on this forum, im going to come to terms with the fact that you obviously know what your talking about, but me i have had a TT supra and a single Turbo MA70, and I still find the V8 to have better response time.

I mean sure the Supra really launches as soon as it kicks in the mid 2K range, but prior to that man those turbo's...arrrgh

Nevertheless, I still love my Turbo's...pure drift action.....handbrakeeeeeeeeee
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 06:29 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Justin Hughes wrote on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 06:30 pm:

Yes I know. Using the correct technique, some concentration and anticipation, always ensures instantaneous response from a TT




But thats the point, its much more relaxing driving a V8, even though its less powerful, you don't have to worry about always being on the ball (not that I'm saying you should let your mind wander too far when driving spiritedly!)
Dragan Vidic
DieHard
Vic
soarer tt

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Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 11:39 am, by:  Dragan Vidic (Soarer_ttt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pauls project aside, why is the 1st 0.5 of a sec of better response off the line so important to you guys?
Leon Wright
TryHard
WA
V8 UZZ31

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Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 12:07 pm, by:  Leon Wright (Techman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm with the V8 boys on this one (yes biased) the adrenalin rush from a TT is second to none admittedly, but I like the complete and utter control you get from an N/A vehicle. Admittedly I want a super charger, but you know it's a toy after all and the power produced by super charger is more predictable in my opinion. Not that i've driven that many, what's your opinion Neil or one of you other blown boys
Paul McConnell
Tinkerer
QLD
TT

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Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 02:18 pm, by:  Paul McConnell (Pt1) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dragan - its not just that response off the line (for me anyway) its that knowledge of exactly what the response will be every time, and having it instantly, that I like. Immediate control with a predictable outcome. Thats why i topped the time trials consistently, I was able to exert much finer control over the car and beat cars with 2-3 times the hp and chassis light years ahead.

For pure shenaniangs, I would go a turbo soarer over a V8 every day. Easy cheap HP. But nowdays I just like to cruise and hit a few apexes, work on some precision stuff, where N/A suits better.

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