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Isaac French
Newbie tasmania fairmont
Posts: 1 Reg: 04-2008
| does anyone know of any body putting a 1jzgte engine and box into an ef or other e-series falcons?? thinking of doing this as will be good for a laugh and be a good project.......... any help would be greatly appreciated??? just doing all the home work first to be sure it wont be to bad or hard to do..... |
Brett Jones
Tinkerer NSW TT
Posts: 93 Reg: 01-2007
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Isaac French wrote on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 02:54 pm:good for a laugh
A lot of work for a laugh! |
Isaac French
Newbie tasmania fairmont
Posts: 2 Reg: 04-2008
| A lot of work for a laugh! why a lot of work can`t be that bad to do??? |
Trevor Neilson
Tinkerer tauranga v8
Posts: 42 Reg: 03-2007
| and a lot of money laugh. |
Ben Lipman
DieHard NSW Soarer TT manual
Posts: 681 Reg: 04-2006
| Having watched a few guys attempt transplants, the first hurdle to overcome is physical limitations. I assume the falcon bay is plenty big enough. The second with most 'modern' engines is getting the electronics to run( especially with an auto box, dash, fuel computer etc). The Soarer was an complicated design with all the bells and whistles, but all the electronics required to tie it all together. You could try transferring the dash and complete harness across from a front cut. The third thing is cost. Double your worst case spend to cover the little( and big) unforseen things. Might be interesting if you go ahead with it though. I remember when guys started with rotary geminis, hemi powerred HQs, and Hi-tech torana transplants. The traditionalists screamed blue murder. Fun to watch actually. |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo NSW TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 3281 Reg: 03-2006
| Why bother.... Just Bolt a turbo onto the side of the 4.0L and go from there! WIth stock compression you should be able to run a Gt30/40 series up to 8 maybe 10psi. Just grab a turbo from a BA xr6T second hand and get a manifold... |
Callum Finch
Goo Roo WA Soarer TT & Corolla
Posts: 3908 Reg: 09-2005
| Why is Mr Lipman the only person who isnt so negative? Bloody ricers these days! Cant Isaac do it for the sake of being different? =P I dare say if the will and know-how is there its possible to do it. You could even try a 2jz for a little extra oomph. |
Isaac French
Newbie tasmania fairmont
Posts: 3 Reg: 04-2008
| its going to cost me around $5500 for a turbo kit for the falcon where i can get an engine,gearbox,loom,ecu and most other stuff i need for around $3500....... thought you toyota guys might like to see a decent engine going to a old chook tin?????????? |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo NSW TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 3283 Reg: 03-2006
| But you cant beat Cubes for torque I used to own a modded 4.0L and it was so torquey! |
Ben Lipman
DieHard NSW Soarer TT manual
Posts: 684 Reg: 04-2006
| Callum. There's no risk involved when you just sh!tcan everyone else's ideas. Nah seriously I reckon they may just want to save the man some cash, and a headache and it just comes across as negativity. Isaac- Mate I completely understand the desire to do things differently, and DIY. Just be careful that you don't end up with less grunt and more headaches than the turbo kit. The turbo kit has probably been designed specifically for your application, and the five grand is probably the total figure less tuning. $3500 for the JZ motor is only the beginning. Do you want to engineer it for the road? There's $500-$1500 just there alone even if the engineer is completely happy. If you are really committed then do some reading up on conversions in general, and maybe read the threads about Lew's 'JZ into van' conversion, or some of the cressidas running JZs. |
Isaac French
Newbie tasmania fairmont
Posts: 4 Reg: 04-2008
| thanks guys for the insight into what some people think i am still doing a lot of reading about this. as i said i`m just all the info finding to see whether it`s worth doing or not thanks isaac |
Graham Dollisson
Goo Roo QLD GTTL , Morris Marina, P76 V8 Super, P76 6cyl Deluxe
Posts: 1258 Reg: 07-2005
| A friend of mine has a 1JZ in a Leyland P76. Not for a laugh either. He just wanted to try something a bit different than the normal bigger V8 option. It runs a wolf ecu. It goes pretty well also, considering it probably would weigh in at around 1300kgs. |
Adrain Parsons
DieHard Qld JZZ30 tt
Posts: 678 Reg: 08-2005
| why not the v8? a guy i know has done the v8 into a falcon wagon.
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Ben Lipman
DieHard NSW Soarer TT manual
Posts: 689 Reg: 04-2006
| anyone know the weights of the stock falcon six and eight engines versus the 1JZ and 1UZ? The 1UZ into a falcon (ex v8 type - all the gear is already there to support it) sounds interesting. |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo NSW TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 3315 Reg: 03-2006
| Personally i wouldnt bother with the 1uz swap... I would just get a built 4.0L ( ef - el motor) from Jim Mock Motorsports in Vic.. They design a stage 5 pacxkage that makes 180-190rwkw and makes a bucket load of torque... Otherwise, you could speak to Rob Herrod @ Herrod Motorpsorts and speak to him about Cam selections. I used one of his grinds in my old 3.9L and it ran a 14.0 @ the old Eastern Creek track many years ago. |
Michael Keen
DieHard nsw soarer tt
Posts: 521 Reg: 10-2007
| mate dont listen to all them people i say go for it, i have seen 1j's in vr's etc but not a ford, i woul say about 7000-8000 to get it all on road etc, providing you cna do most of the work . Daniel Clarke wrote on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 11:47 pm:They design a stage 5 pacxkage that makes 180-190rwkw and makes a bucket load of torque...
ahha we get that on a stock soarer at the wheels ehhe why bother |
Dave Billings
Goo Roo Louisiana SC 300, 2JZE, 5 Speed
Posts: 1466 Reg: 06-2007
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Michael Keen wrote on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 06:03 am:i woul say about 7000-8000 to get it all on road
Why not buy another Soarer? |
Matt Petersen
Tinkerer NA V8
Posts: 52 Reg: 01-2008
| I would look at capa.com.au and get a supercharger kit to go on the stock 4L. That would get you more power than a 1JZ conversion for similar money. The Falcon's are a bit heavy car and require good torque to make them perform. Before my Soarer I had a 2005 XR6 which has the same power figures as the Soarer but doesn't go anywhere near as hard. Matt. |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo NSW TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 3414 Reg: 03-2006
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Michael Keen wrote on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 06:03 am:ahha we get that on a stock soarer at the wheels ehhe why bother
We might get 160 stock... But no where near the Torque.!!! And yeah, Just buy a bloody Soarer! Can get them for up to 7K in stock form. |
Lachie Bryce
Tinkerer vic Jzz31
Posts: 87 Reg: 03-2008
| if you're going to do a conversion, make sure you have the time for it as well as the money, you dont wanna buy all these parts and have them sitting in your shed for 2 years, tinkering on it every now and then. but if you do have time and funds go for it, i know in the not so distant future of 2009 i'll be having a play with building an RB30 (i think it is) engine to throw into my mates GTST skyline or sell off to some shmuck. |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo New Zealand Soarer Limited UZZ31 V8
Posts: 3129 Reg: 11-2005
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Daniel Clarke wrote on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 07:12 pm:Why bother.... Just Bolt a turbo onto the side of the 4.0L and go from there! WIth stock compression you should be able to run a Gt30/40 series up to 8 maybe 10psi. Just grab a turbo from a BA xr6T second hand and get a manifold...
I agree. |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer South Australia UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 10353 Reg: 11-2004
| Severe thread lag alert! |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo New Zealand Soarer Limited UZZ31 V8
Posts: 3142 Reg: 11-2005
| Oh my, I didn't even see that!
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Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo NSW TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 4465 Reg: 03-2006
| MIke is stalking my threads,hahahaha!!! |