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Warren Moore
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Victoria
JZZ31 2JZ-GE

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Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 12:16 am, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

long story short, light drift session in the wet, power glided into a gutter and rear sway bar is bent. Would these be any good?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2-REAR-Sway-Bar-Links-SET-For-TOYOTA-SOARER-91-00_W0QQitemZ170467418070QQcmdZ ViewItemQQptZAU_Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item27b0a65fd6

Are the OEM aftermarket ones any good? or should I get a factory one from a parting soarer?
Scott Casey
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nsw
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Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 06:45 am, by:  Scott Casey (V8soarer_1991) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

they are link kits for the swaybar, not the swaybar itself.

if you have bent the swaybar, it would be best to upgrade.

sent a pm to Dave Caze

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/171174/276843.html?1264582490
Warren Moore
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Victoria
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Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 01:09 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

would i need to replace both the rears? or only the side thats bent?
Scott Wilkes
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Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 01:25 pm, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

theres only 1 swaybar on the rear and 1 in the front, they connect from each lower arm to counteract the forces when you corner.

If its bent the swaybar mate, its very very likely its bent the toe rod, either upper or lower control arm or a strut mate. Swaybar is last thing you would expect to bend as its not rigidly mounted to the control arms.

When i first got my soarer i clipped a gutter on the RHS rear wheel, bent the buggery out of my toe rod which i replaced and everythingh else is 100% :-)
Warren Moore
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Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 01:33 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

how much would i be looking at if the toe rod was bent?
Scott Wilkes
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Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 02:16 pm, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

take the car to a mechanics and get the rear end checked out properly mate, dont just take stabs in the dark mate.

I got the toe rod of a car my mate was wrecking so free :-)
Warren Moore
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Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 02:52 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i will jack it up soon and post some pics. but yes, i will take it to a mechanic and get it looked at. so much for the melb soarer cruise on monday :-(
Warren Moore
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Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 03:27 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/davidschlenker/IMG_0607.jpg
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Dan McColl
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Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 06:13 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fair bit more than the sway bar bent, I'm afraid.

Toe link, Traction rod, sway bar and that's just looking a the crappy pics.

Get a specialist to look at it and fix it. Also pay attention to the control arm mounting points, as they could be damaged as well.

Most of the stuff could be picked up reasonably from someone parting out a car.

Next time, go where the gutters aren't square if you must insist on learning to drift on public roads.
Warren Moore
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Victoria
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Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 09:46 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok so the best thing to do would be to take it to a mechanic and find out what needs replacing and then look around on the forums for the parts needed, correct?
Scott Wilkes
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Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 12:01 am, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

geeeeeeeez not looking good mate, may possibly have damaged the driveshaft CV as well. Definately get it properly checked over as dan and i have said mate, ALOT worse than just the swaybar haha
Warren Moore
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Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 12:16 am, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

should i take it to a suspension specialist such as pedders? or just a local mechanic?
Dan McColl
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Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 12:32 am, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A suspension specialist would be good. I would not call pedders as such.

Sports and luxury in ferntree gully would be my first pick.
Warren Moore
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Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 01:15 am, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

are there any good suspension specialists in the northern suburbs of melb? im in preston and don't want to tow the soarer to the other side of the city, would cost a fortune
Andrew Duaso
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Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 01:30 am, by:  Andrew Duaso (Andrewd) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ouch dude that car is in a lot of pain LOL

no need for a suspension specialist any mechanic can do the work...

but your going to need to do some leg work, there is a lot of bent stuff there and bits are going to be a pita to find

its all pretty straight forward something you can do in the drive way if you own some reasonable tools and can turn them, if not just drop it off at nearest mechanic along with $1500 and pick up when done

i live in preston and have no recommendations for a workshop, i used to use pro-tek but they disappeared Dom was pretty good with me when i used to take my s/c'd magna there...

start ringing some wreckers, i had to wait 6 weeks for a rear suspension arm then i got the wrong one sent to me.... pain in the arse
Warren Moore
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Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 01:45 am, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

im not very mechanically smart so i may need some help. im not sure what parts would be needed to be replaced. as you live close by, would you be able to come round some time and help me identify what parts would need to be replaced andrew?
Ali Saeed
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WA
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Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 03:28 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ahh i got a couple of words for you my man: bad scenes.
Andrew Duaso
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Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 11:19 am, by:  Andrew Duaso (Andrewd) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah sure man, but im on nights at the moment wouldnt be until next week some time... does it still drive?
Warren Moore
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Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 11:24 am, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

nah can't drive on it. had to get it towed home from thomo friday night
Adam Lonergan
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Victoria
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Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 02:54 pm, by:  Adam Lonergan (Alchemistal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Centreline suspension is the best suspension specialist in the Northern suburbs. They are in Thomastown and usually require you to book a few days in advance.
Costa Tsimiklis
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Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 08:39 pm, by:  Costa Tsimiklis (Driftshop) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've got 3x Soarer Rear ends for parts etc and can provide fitting / install in Williamstown this week from Tuesday onwards. I can get the car ready by Wednesday arvo if it is dropped off Monday/Tuesday morning.

Looks like at best, you have bent the following: Sway Bar + Links, Toe and Traction Rods and the drive shaft looks a bit fscked and may a have a damaged CV joint. Chassis mounts look to be OK from the photos.

At minimum, you will need to replace the above parts and have the rear end wheel aligned. At worst - complete rear subframe and diff swap due do damaged CV Joints, Wheel Bearings, bent hub and so forth. It would be cheaper to replace a diff cradle and get it wheel aligned if the damage is more then just the control arms.

Call me on 0433 220 139 or come to the cruise tomorrow in another car for a chat in person :-)
Jesse Chen
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JZZ30 TT

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Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 09:15 pm, by:  Jesse Chen (Jchen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have done a very similar thing to mine last night. Are you willing to ship a few parts interstate after I figure out what I need.
Warren Moore
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Monday, April 26, 2010 - 06:14 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have spoken to Costa and will arrange to get it towed to his workshop sometime this week. Here is a picture of the damaged wheel for those interested.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/davidschlenker/IMG_0608.jpg

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