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Mark Paddick
Goo Roo
ACT
Soarer UZZ31

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Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 08:53 am, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How can a huge angled fan blade driven with more power not flow at least as much as electric fans?
Of course actual comparative measurements on the car would prove it one way or another, but I'm confident of what the outcome would be.
That same fan blade fitted into a shroud that covers the entire radiator with no leaks HAS to cover the core better i.e. 100%, you can't get better than that.
Neil, handy to know that replacement fan motors are redily available from Toyota .
Richard Baird
Tinkerer
Perth, WA
Toyota Echo

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Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 01:45 pm, by:  Richard Baird (Richo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Plenty of reserve with most car power steer pumps to do this as they don't use anywhere near it's capacity to assist the steering.

I have been told by someone in the know that the hydraulic motor pack in the Soarer/Camry/ES300 is around 2HP flatout

that's around 1500 watts of power boys and girls

That equates to 125amps of current

Gee that's the output of the alternator...!!
Dan McColl
DieHard
Victoria
UZZ-32 V8 Soarer #138

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Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 05:52 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's some serious electric fans. :-)
Stephen J Coff
Tinkerer
NSW
V8

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Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 08:01 pm, by:  Stephen J Coff (Coffee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The shear size of the fan blades or even the fact that the fan motor has be claimed at 2hp doesn't say that it l draw more than the electric items. So does this mean motor should be rated at 1000+hp because one someone told me and two because it capable ? The power steering pump idea is a very good thought for those doing up a car, well worth looking into. How ever i still feel it wouldn't work. I make this comment boldly because Toyota do spend a lot of money design all aspects of these cars and still do it smartly and cost effectively. If this could have been done without compramising on the quality or performance of either area, i am sure they would have done it that way.

I would be great if someone was able to find tech info on the hydraulic fan and it cfm, this way all they speculation could cease and hard facts end this debate.

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Stephen
Richard Baird
TryHard
Perth, WA
Toyota Echo

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Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 09:32 pm, by:  Richard Baird (Richo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Steven after spending quite a few hours repairing various leaks including the forementioned cooling fan setup on a wide body Camry recently... i can assure you the pumps are bugger all different to your run of the mill steer pump.

Damn car leaked a fair bit only when the air cond was cranked....i'll let you figure out how i made the diagnosis...

I can name a few pieces of equipment that use P/S pumps to control aux equipment...its not new.

Not doubting for a minute that twin electrics can move air....Holden and Ford use them but if it was a case of "no expense spared" they would use hydraulics....much more reliable.

Important thing for elect fans is that they must be baffled correctly otherwise they dont pump at thier rated output...is yours???
Neil Griffiths
Trader
NSW
I have MORE Soarers than Hayden :-)

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Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 10:15 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard,
Fan was running at low pressure (Low Speed) without AC..
On AC it switched to full pressure (Hi Speed)
And it leaked !!!!!!!!!!
Richard Baird
TryHard
Perth, WA
Toyota Echo

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Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 10:23 pm, by:  Richard Baird (Richo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



Spot on papa.....!!!
Don Bagnall
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New Zealand
1991 UZZ30 GT4.0 V8

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Friday, January 27, 2006 - 07:12 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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