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Trevor Marsh
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Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:40 am, by:  Trevor Marsh (Tma7) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As you should (hopefully) see in the attached photo, I have a turbo pop off valve sticking out from of the exhaust manifold. It's been there since I first bought the car about 12 years ago. The trouble is I can't get a decent sized car battery fitted because the pop off valve is in the way.

The valve looks like it will unscrew but I have no idea how I would then cover what must surely be a bloody big hole in the manifold. (To be absolutely honest I don't even know what this valve does anyway apart from making a silly 'farting sound' on the very rare occasions I put my foot down).

Can anyone advise me the best way to do this?

I'm hoping there's some kind of standard sized blanking plate that will screw in in it's place.

Any helpful suggestions or advice most welcomed!
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Trevor Marsh
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Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:43 am, by:  Trevor Marsh (Tma7) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Before anyone asks- what looks like white birds muck on the right hand side of this valve is indeed silicon sealant. I was so concerned that the battery I have in the at the moment would short against the valve that I added this 'temporary' fix.
Trevor Marsh
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Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 11:00 am, by:  Trevor Marsh (Tma7) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think this may also be called a blow off valve. I have no idea why it appears I'm the only one calling it a pop off valve though.
Robert Day
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Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 11:10 am, by:  Robert Day (Lexsmaz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm guessing its a typo or such on your behalf, but that's a intercooler pipe, nothing to do with the exhaust ..

If you are lucky you might be able to remove the whole cast pipe & replace it with the stock rubber intercooler pipe ..
Shane Haverkamp
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Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 12:03 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

robert is on the money.

that pipe is the pipe going from the intercooler into your INTAKE manifold, not exhaust.

like robert said, you should be able to buy the stock inter cooler pipe (even a 2nd hand one will do the job) but this is the bit your after




any chance of posting a couple of more pictures though of the whole intake manifold. normally when people put a 2nd hand blow off valve on they remove the stock one off the manifold. and you'd rather have A blow off then then none at all.
Trevor Marsh
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Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 12:40 pm, by:  Trevor Marsh (Tma7) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Er...yes that would be INLET manifold.

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It's tricky getting a camera in to photograph that area. Would this help?


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Robert Day
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Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 01:57 pm, by:  Robert Day (Lexsmaz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As Shane said, we need to see a picture of the cooler pipes above the Turbos near the brake master cylinder, there should be a factory Blow off valve & piping there ..
Trevor Marsh
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Is this of more help?


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Trevor Marsh
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Trevor Marsh
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Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 05:09 pm, by:  Trevor Marsh (Tma7) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And finally....


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Kurt Atzmuller
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Victoria
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Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 11:25 am, by:  Kurt Atzmuller (Kurt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The standard one is still there may still be working. Just bin that front one near the battery and pick up a standard rubber piece to put back in.
lots of people parting out soarers someone will have one of them lying around.
Trevor Marsh
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Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 01:12 pm, by:  Trevor Marsh (Tma7) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Kurt. That's really helpful information!

I'll ask on Soarer Central to see who's got that rubber part you talk of. Any idea what it's official name is?
Kurt Atzmuller
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Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 03:42 pm, by:  Kurt Atzmuller (Kurt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mate i may have a spare one here if i find it you can have it. I'll have a look tomorrow.
Trevor Marsh
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Monday, July 15, 2013 - 09:42 am, by:  Trevor Marsh (Tma7) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Kurt. I went into my local battery supplier this morning and they reckon they can physically squeeze in a decent sized battery. They said the reason my battery had failed is that I've not done any motorway miles (I haven't been up the highway in about a year) so the 'around town' driving I've been doing has prevented the battery charging properly.

So I'm getting that battery in about half an hours time.

However IF you do have a spare one (blanking plug presumably) then that would be great as I'm a bit concerned about the legality of having this blow off valve. I NEVER drive like a hoon but nowadays the cops seem to be swooping on just about anything to get their money in!
Robert Day
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Monday, July 15, 2013 - 10:42 am, by:  Robert Day (Lexsmaz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm sure Kurt wont have a blanking plug as your Blow off valve type & position from what i have seen around is not a very common thing, he will have i'm sure a complete rubber pipe to replace the cast aluminium / silver pipe ..
Robert Day
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Monday, July 15, 2013 - 10:47 am, by:  Robert Day (Lexsmaz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As far as your battery failing how old is the battery & how much driving time wise do you do in a day / week but also how many times do you physically start the car in the same amount of time, as in do you start up & just drive for 15 minutes or more then stop & do it again in one day or do you only run for a few minutes turn the car off & restart it again & another short run, if its close to the first example or more driving time the battery should be fine in that situation & no "Motorway miles" is needed ..
Trevor Marsh
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Monday, July 15, 2013 - 05:20 pm, by:  Trevor Marsh (Tma7) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Robert.

My average week involves starting the car at 7am and a 6k drive to my part time work. Then start it again at 0930. Drive the car 6 k's back home. Repeat this leaving home at 2pm for the 6k run. I start the car again around 4.30 for the journey home.

In addition there are times we drive 7k's into our local town, do a bit of shopping, then back home again an hour or two later. We do this about 4 times per week.

And finally, most Sundays we start the car at 8 am and drive 20 k's to our 'local' model flying field. Back home 3 hours later.

I don't know what's more depressing- the fact we don't do any motorway driving anymore or the fact we have such a boring life!

At this stage I'm happy enough as the battery fitters managed to squeeze a N70 battery in with about half an inch to spare so as that battery has a fair bit more capacity than the previous one, it should hopefully last longer.

But again, if anyone does find they have either the blanking plug or the correct rubber pipe I would still be interested depending on the costs.

Meanwhile many thanks for everyone's help and advice. Whether the battery dealer is talking a load of drivel regarding lack of motorway miles, I'm guessing it's probably just one of their 'get out of jail' stories. It'd be interesting to hear your views.
Trevor Marsh
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Monday, July 15, 2013 - 05:22 pm, by:  Trevor Marsh (Tma7) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I should have said, the driving to and from my part time job is 5 days per week.
Kurt Atzmuller
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Monday, July 15, 2013 - 08:06 pm, by:  Kurt Atzmuller (Kurt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry i was talking about the stock rubber piece.
I didn't get a chance to look for it today but tomorrow i'll get out there.
If i still have one there you can have it.
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Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - 01:34 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would have thought that driving was plenty to keep the battery charged.

Just a thought, if the old battery is a modern ceramic, they tend to need a higher conditioning charge, and it's recommended they be hooked up to a proper ceramic capable charger eg once every 3-6 months for that purpose.
Trevor Marsh
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Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - 12:44 pm, by:  Trevor Marsh (Tma7) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well the battery was a Century High Performance 58 rated at 470 CCA. It also says RC95. I don't think there was anything fancy about it.

I've had my beloved Soarer for 12 years and up until now batteries have lasted from 2 1/2 years up to 3 -4 years (from very vague memory). Even back then I didn't do much motorway mileage.

No, my betting's on this being some kind of battery deficiency or just lower quality than the standard batteries I had before.

I'm not sure if this battery was made in China (it doesn't say on the battery) but
I wouldn't be surprised if it's so and if it IS, it's possibly yet another example of crap quality we are being brain washed into thinking is 'the norm' nowadays- as in 'nothing's built to last nowadays'.

A bit like my Soarer windscreen. I had it replaced about 10 months ago as some muppet in a four wheel drive zoomed past me and it's tyres kicked up a load of gravel which cracked my screen.

The windscreen fitter (who came out the cheapest but not by much) said nothing about the screen being Chinese made but I soon discovered this fact the day I picked my car up because when I swing my head to look around traffic etc there's an area of the screen where a 'wave' appears.

I can't describe it any better than that. It's basically an area where the Chinese screen is just not right so it has the effect almost like those 'Varifocal' eye glasses that sound OK until you look from the bottom to the top (while wearing 'em) and the change in between makes your eyes go funny for a second.

Well that's how my windscreen seems.

Having said all that, I'm in no way against Chinese made products. I fly radio control planes and virtually all of them (plus the transmitters) are made in China and their prices simply cannot be touched.It means if and when I (or other fliers who also have Chinese made planes)lose 'em in a tree or crash 'em, it's not quite so painful on the wallet.

My favourite radio transmitter cost me $60. I have a flying mate who spent $1000 on his transmitter and admits mine actually does more than his does!

BUT personally I don't think Chinese quality sits right with our Soarer's stunning quality.
Kurt Atzmuller
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Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - 01:54 pm, by:  Kurt Atzmuller (Kurt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Trevor i have a stock rubber piece.
Text me your address to 0419556516, and i'll send it off friday. It has been sitting in my shed for maybe 5 years but it should be fine.
Trevor Marsh
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Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - 05:28 pm, by:  Trevor Marsh (Tma7) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Kurt

I'll do that. I do insist on paying for it though.

Please let me know what suits you including postage.

Meanwhile many many thanks.
Trevor Marsh
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Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - 06:36 pm, by:  Trevor Marsh (Tma7) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for your message Kurt. I will however, repeat that it's important to me that I square you up for this. When you do send it, please let me know how much I can pay you.

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T

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