Last x Days Posts  1 | 3 | 7 Days  Search  Topics  Tree View  Help
  Soarer Central * Mechanical - Common * 1JZ Idle Issues (Still!) Previous Previous    Next Next  

Author Message
Adam Brown
Tinkerer
Soarer TT Manual

Posts: 32
Reg: 07-2005

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Friday, August 12, 2005 - 10:04 am, by:  Adam Brown Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi guys.
Okay here's the update(I had started a thread on ALSC).
The problem: Engine not idling Intermittently (though more consistantly lately.)
Solutions:
Injector cleaner - have run about 3 bottles through. everytime i do it comes good for about a week, then the problem comes back.
I've changed the fuel filter, diagnosed that it is not the fuel pump controller, cleaned the idle control valve.
I even took it to a mechanic (Gosh, no really!), but of course, the morning i drove it there, it was fine, all day it was fine, drove it home it was fine, next time i started it, it played up!

I have a full set of o-rings for the injectors, as i was going to get them cleaned, but i don't think that will help.
Changed the 02 sensor, no difference.
It runs really rich. Seems like it just snuffs the engine at idle, because it has too much fuel.
So what do i do now?
Toan Nguyen
Newbie
TT

Posts: 4
Reg: 07-2005

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Friday, August 12, 2005 - 10:46 am, by:  Toan Nguyen Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What coolant do you have in the car?
Adam Brown
Tinkerer
Soarer TT Manual

Posts: 34
Reg: 07-2005

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Friday, August 12, 2005 - 11:03 am, by:  Adam Brown Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Toyota Red stuff. Just did the water pump last week and had the radiator cleaned. Why do you ask?
Also, where is the MAP sensor? Could it need a clean too?
Michael Sukahar
Tinkerer
TT

Posts: 10
Reg: 07-2005

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Friday, August 12, 2005 - 05:35 pm, by:  Michael Sukahar Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i woould get the injector cleaned by professional if i were you as you mentioned that everytime you put in the cleaner it goes o.k. for a week or so
Mustafa Akgul
TryHard
JZZ30-GTTL V8 killer

Posts: 68
Reg: 07-2005

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Friday, August 12, 2005 - 07:44 pm, by:  Mustafa Akgul Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if it feels like its misfiring when the problem comes up then i would look at plugs,Coil packs etc.its obviously not a fule problem as its runing rich.

it could also be the camshaft sensors..

good luck
Graham Dollisson
TryHard
GT-TL

Posts: 63
Reg: 07-2005

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Friday, August 12, 2005 - 07:54 pm, by:  Graham Dollisson Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A friend of mine recently had his injectors cleaned in his tarago van. The thing is now much harder to start and the injectors appear to leak under pressure. Looks like he will need to buy a new set.His mechanic said that the injector cleaning guy told him that it is quite common for the tarago van injectors to leak after they have been cleaned. Not happy jan!! Hope that the soarer ones aren't like that. I would stick ultrasonic cleaning. The tarago injectors were cleaned chemically
Adam Brown
Tinkerer
Soarer TT Manual

Posts: 37
Reg: 07-2005

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Monday, August 15, 2005 - 11:23 am, by:  Adam Brown Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Changed the spark plugs to a set of NGK BKR6E (not iridium) at.8mm gap. I'd tried to start the car without any throttle before i changed the plugs, and when i pulled out the original plugs, the were very black, and had liquid (fuel) on the tips. It started, coughed and spluttered for a bit, and blew out thick smoke for a while, then came good. Then it played up again. So i've cleaned the idle control valve with carby cleaner more thoroughly than last time. It's okay now, but still not perfect.
More help?
Morgan Cross
TryHard
Soarer TT

Posts: 142
Reg: 07-2005

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Monday, August 15, 2005 - 12:48 pm, by:  Morgan Cross Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe the injectors themselves are stuffed, not spraying right?
Luke Nieuwhof
Tinkerer
Soarer TT

Posts: 39
Reg: 07-2005

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Monday, August 15, 2005 - 01:13 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Even with my limited automotive knowledge I would agree with Mustafa that it isn't a fuel problem. All the symptoms you describe would indicate it is running horror rich (ie wet plugs, flooding at idle, lots of smoke). Then again that injector thing is weird, cleaning them makes it go better I mean.

As for a solution I wouldn't have a clue! Sorry!
Adam Brown
Tinkerer
Soarer TT Manual

Posts: 40
Reg: 07-2005

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Monday, August 22, 2005 - 09:39 pm, by:  Adam Brown Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, time for an update.
A few weeks have gone by since i did the plugs and o2 sensor, and to my surprise, things have actually improved. The engine is idling as per normal and quite smooth, not blowing any more smoke than a rich factory tune will! Feels to have a little more poke (although it has been a bit colder up here in the hills the fast few days). I think the computer must have re-learned over the past few weeks, and all seems good now. I'll check the plugs in a few weeks to make sure all is well.
Thanks for all the help guys, much appreciated.
Patrick Chan
Newbie
Soarer TT

Posts: 5
Reg: 08-2005

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 01:33 am, by:  Patrick Chan Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Check you ECU my car was playing up for months going good and then bad and it was sending out errors about the throttle position system. But once the computer was changed it was smooth as ever. Just a thought.
Good Luck
Freeman Tang
Tinkerer
JZZ30 GTTL

Posts: 22
Reg: 07-2005

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 01:20 am, by:  Freeman Tang Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Try bypassing Fuel Pump ECU?? bridging FP and +B in the diag port under the hood. That will test if it is FP ECU prob or not.
Adam Brown
Tinkerer
Soarer TT Manual

Posts: 41
Reg: 07-2005

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 09:08 am, by:  Adam Brown Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tried the fuel pump ecu thing ages ago, and it's not that.
Change the ecu? Sure! Anyone got a factory 5 speed ecu lying around they want to lend me...Not likely!!!
Adam Brown
Tinkerer
Soarer TT Manual

Posts: 43
Reg: 07-2005

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 02:52 pm, by:  Adam Brown Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think i'll let it go for now. Besides, can't fix it if it aint broke hey!
Anton Jones
Newbie
TT

Posts: 4
Reg: 08-2005

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Friday, August 26, 2005 - 01:23 pm, by:  Anton Jones Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a standard MAP sensor if you want to borrow it and check that?
Marius Hainal
Newbie
TT manual

Posts: 4
Reg: 08-2005

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Friday, August 26, 2005 - 01:35 pm, by:  Marius Hainal Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where's the MAP sensor ; is that the black plastic thingie up on the firewall on the passanger side ?
Anton Jones
Newbie
TT

Posts: 5
Reg: 08-2005

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Friday, August 26, 2005 - 03:17 pm, by:  Anton Jones Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes. Right up the top, has the vacuum line going to it. 'bout 3cm x 3cm (ish)
Mike Chandley
Tinkerer
Victoria
VVTI 6

Posts: 9
Reg: 09-2005

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Friday, February 24, 2006 - 09:05 pm, by:  Mike Chandley (Aristo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

get an injector leak down test done , could be crook injector

Add Your Message Here
Eye Candy
Click for full size
Bold text Italics Underline Center Text Upload photo from your hard drive Make a List Make a Table Make an Image Thumbnail Create a hyperlink Insert a clipart image Formatting Help
         

Username: Important Posting Information:
If asking a question, have you done a search to see if your question has already been answered?
Be aware that the use of SMS-speak eg "u" instead of "you" etc, will get your post deleted.
Password:
Enable HTML code in message
Automatically activate URLs in message

  Administration Administration      Log Out Log Out Previous Previous      Next Next