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Luis Ramirez
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WA
Soarer TT

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 10:12 pm, by:  Luis Ramirez (Lui) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Was wondering if this sub will be good for the parcel shelf, or do i need a free air sub?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PIONEER-TSW256DVC-10-Component-Subwoofers-800W-POWER_W0QQitemZ5816771334QQcat egoryZ3292QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Mark Paddick
Goo Roo
ACT
Soarer UZZ31

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 11:25 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why bother?? when the Jaycar one has better specs, IS suitable for rear shelf and can be had for the same $139 on eBay from Electus who are the Jaycar parent company.
Alan Chow
TryHard
Vic
TT

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Reg: 09-2005

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Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 03:15 pm, by:  Alan Chow (Kfchow) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lolz mark you love your jaycar don't cha
Steve Nolan
TryHard
NSW
SC400 Ltd (31)

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Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 03:28 pm, by:  Steve Nolan (Hiddenvision) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why not when they have good stuff..
Saves all that hunting around..
And good discounts from their wholesale if your buying enough stuff.

Yer sure they have crap stuff too..
Alan Chow
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Vic
TT

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Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 03:46 pm, by:  Alan Chow (Kfchow) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

true.. mark got me a jaycar amp and its a beauty
Mark Paddick
Goo Roo
ACT
Soarer UZZ31

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Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 05:51 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The point is that the Pioneer speaker is an unknown whereas the Response one is the same price, better power handling and lower resonance and definately Will work unboxed in the parcel shelf
Ian Johnston
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South Australia
UZZ30 GT 4.0

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Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 07:43 pm, by:  Ian Johnston (Ted) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark, would I notice much difference with the Jaycar sub over my standard one? What could I expect?
Mark Paddick
Goo Roo
ACT
Soarer UZZ31

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Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 11:01 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Heaps better bass....BUT you need a bigger amp to drive the new sub as it is nowhere neas as efficient as the factory one.
Michael Sinay
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NSW
TT

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Monday, October 17, 2005 - 02:58 pm, by:  Michael Sinay (Mikey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey guys, Ive had a 10inch kicker free-air sub in my parcel shelf for a while now, and whenever the bass starts getting big it "pops", ie a loud popping sound, which is really annoying and sounds crap. Basically it ruins the effect of the bass, but i have no idea what is causing it...

I have a big amp running it so its getting enough power.
Im wondering if even though its supposedly a free-air sub, maybe somethings not working right with the boot as its enclosure, does this cause the popping effect??
Any ideas?

Thanks!
Simon Triantafillou
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NSW
Soarer Turbo

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Monday, October 17, 2005 - 09:47 pm, by:  Simon Triantafillou (Soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kicker 10EX has been working fine for me for ~3 years Michael. Might have killed the sub somehow?
Jose-Antonio Castillo
TryHard
NSW
Black/Black JZZ30 VVTi

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Reg: 07-2005

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Monday, October 17, 2005 - 10:08 pm, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael, are you using the factory mounting bracket? I think you've killed the sub (that's what happened to mine before it fluttered, popped and died).
Mark Paddick
Goo Roo
ACT
Soarer UZZ31

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Monday, October 17, 2005 - 11:18 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Check for intermittent shorting of speaker terminals to the chassis.
How is the amp powered. I saw some very strange effects when powering an amp from factory wiring. After it had been running for a while the speaker cone was making huge low frequency excursions (much lower than audio frequencies). All this dissapeared when a large power cable was run from the battery for the amp.
Michael Sinay
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TT

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Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 05:44 pm, by:  Michael Sinay (Mikey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmm well it works really good up until the volume gets to a certain level. Its done this ever since i bought it, although it was an ex-demo sub. The sub has a fairly decent sized power cable running from the battery, and the rca's go straight to the deck...
Ben James
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Queenland
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Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 02:28 pm, by:  Ben James (Silverbullet) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can someone tell me, I'm about to put an aftermarket head unit in my soarer, and was wondering if I have to do away with the factory amp in the boot ?, also can I run my factory sub of my aftermarket head unit, or do I have to buy an aftermarket sub and amp ?
Thads Cooke
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Soarer TT

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Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 03:04 pm, by:  Thads Cooke (Thadz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When i installed my pioneer headunit, I only used the factory wiring for power, earth and memory, and ran new wires for all the speakers. I also put a 222w sony amp in the boot (under 'flap' on rhs) and used this to run the factory sub - I couldn't work out how the wiring on the factory amps worked so i just got rid of them!

Mark- which is the jaycar sub that you recommend and does it fit straight into the shelf? and will my sony 222w amp be big enough to power it satisfactorily?
Stephen Hille
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Ford HSV

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Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 10:16 am, by:  Stephen Hille (9zero) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Electus dont have anything in their store on ebay and searching for Jaycar didnt bring much up, is there another site you know of Mark?
Mark Paddick
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ACT
Soarer UZZ31

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Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 06:10 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=CS2278&CATID=&keywords=cs+2278&SPECIAL=&form=KEYWORD&Pro dCodeOnly=&Keyword1=&Keyword2=&pageNumber=&priceMin=&priceMax=&SUBCATID=

Do not take too much notice of the speil in that link. The parameters for these speakers actually indicate that they would work better as infinite baffle or unboxed ie in the rear shelf.
Like most other brands the 10' version is a better speaker than the 12". This is because the magnet system is the same for both meaning that the 10' cone is better damped and controlled than the 12".

It doesn't fit straight in. The hole in the metal shelf has to be enlarged and the mounting bracket filed down and spaced up about 9mm.
The Sony amp should be able to drive it if that is an RMS rating. The sub is rated at 250Watts RMS
Mark Paddick
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Soarer UZZ31

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Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 06:18 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The factory 4 channel amp can be run off line level outputs from an aftermarket head unit.
The factory sub amp requires two 180 deg out of phase inputs so a phase splitter will be required with most aftermarket head units.
Tim Spicer
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victoria
v8

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Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 08:21 pm, by:  Tim Spicer (Spicer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sorry to back track a lil but this j-car sub how well dose it fit into the rear self, as in can you keep the origanal cover
Mark Paddick
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ACT
Soarer UZZ31

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Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 09:27 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, the original cover can be kept

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/282/4905.html?1123539500

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