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Steven Roduner
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Friday, June 20, 2008 - 02:28 pm, by:  Steven Roduner (Steve89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm in the process of making a new parcel tray out of MDF. I was just wondering how thick the MDF should be? If people have some experiences please share....
Ben Lipman
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Friday, June 20, 2008 - 03:03 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

12mm will be OK I reckon. The factory one is thin, like 3mm or something, purely there for cosmetic reasons.

Are you supporting much weight?

Note: I have not made one for the Soarer so there may be clearance issues where the glass/trim meets the metal etc. I have used 12mm in other cars with no problems.
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Friday, June 20, 2008 - 04:44 pm, by:  Steven Roduner (Steve89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry I should have said that first off, only putting two 6x9's in the shelf that's it. I guess if it hits the glass I could always use a router to take that edge off, yeah?
Andrew Stewart
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Friday, June 20, 2008 - 09:09 pm, by:  Andrew Stewart (Daboom) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

for mine, i used 3ply, was easier to work with, and then i fibreglassed my design, first getting polar fleece and then stapling it on the edges and stretching it over the spacer rings and then painting the fibreglass resin on the fabric until it cannot absorb anymore resin, makes it nice and strong. then let it cure for 2 days in the heat, sand and then carpet with bunnings black boot carpet

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/13208/236406.html

that is the thread i started, might give you an idea, and don't hesitate to ask any questions
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Friday, June 20, 2008 - 09:41 pm, by:  Steven Roduner (Steve89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looking good Andrew, how are those arm rests coming along?? How thick was the ply mate? I like how it sits flush with the rear seats.
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Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 06:55 am, by:  Andrew Stewart (Daboom) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

all i know Steven, is that it is 3Ply. You get it from bunnings, it is like 8mm, i think. you do not want anything thicker because you need to worry about glass clearance (had to flare the reear edge where it meets the glass) and where the rear window trims sit over behind the seat (needs to sit under that) i just sat my OEM parcel shelf over the 3 ply sheet and traced it out, and worked like a charm. If you go to bunnings and ask for 3 ply, when you look at the raw edges, you will see 3 distinct layers.the rear arm rests are finished, will take a photo today and post it up
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Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 05:30 pm, by:  Steven Roduner (Steve89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the info Andrew, much appreciated. I think I will be heading to Bunnings soon.
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Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 06:28 pm, by:  Andrew Stewart (Daboom) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that's ok steven, i just remembered that i got the carpet from jaycar. if you are going to be doing a really basic parcel shelf, the bunnings carpet will be ok, however for a more involved parcel shelf, the jaycar carpet is not so thick in the backing and will mould a little better to things easier than the bunnings carpet
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Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 08:20 pm, by:  Steven Roduner (Steve89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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That is a rough sketch of what I want to do(don't laugh). I'm going to cut the Lion out and have it over the hole for the standard sub allowing air to come through from the boot. The lion will be done in some type of mesh like the speaker covers than I will do the rest in carpet. Any suggestions?
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Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 10:33 pm, by:  Andrew Stewart (Daboom) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so exactly what to you want to do with the griffon? do you want to have it "embossed" under the fabric? or do you want it cut out of the MDF? because, if you have a look under the for sale section, i have actually been able to design up the griffon that i have been engraving on scuff plates. i can cut out a decent sized griffon in perspex if you want, i would have to work out how much, but would only be talking like 30 bucks. so if you are interested, let me know. otherwise your design looks good. you will however need to raise the 6x9's as the hole is only 5.5 or so inches in diameter, and a 6x9 won't really fit. i was really lucky as the magnets for my 8" woofer literally just fit with about 5mm to spare so i would say just get some MDF spacers, and if you are going to fibreglass, make a spacer about an inch high and sit it under the back of the speaker spacer ring (closest to the window) to raise it up. will then allow the speaker to fit much better on the parcel shelf
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Sunday, June 22, 2008 - 01:47 pm, by:  Steven Roduner (Steve89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

O.k so the plan is to cut the griffon out of the MDF . The idea of a perspex one is great but I did want to allow that air to flow through. Maybe an idea for the boot later on... I will have to do some trial and error with the speakers, I want to find the bare minimum I have to raise them. I think I might take the shelf out tomorrow and have a good look at what I have to do. Will let you know how I go.
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Sunday, June 22, 2008 - 02:16 pm, by:  Scott Gates (Scotty_001) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It would be interesting to see what this turns out like.
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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 09:00 pm, by:  Steven Roduner (Steve89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well I'm getting somewhere, I took the parcel shelf out today and traced it out on some MDF. Everything is drawn up how I want it, just have to wait till daylight hours again so I can use the jigsaw to cut the thing out. It is going to be a very fiddley job but I think it will be worth it.

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Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 08:41 am, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How thick was the MDF you ended up running with?
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Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:54 am, by:  Steven Roduner (Steve89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I end up going with 6mm MDF, then if need be I will build it up in places. I picked up the thicker stuff and thought it might be to heavy. So I will just give this a shot and if it doesn't work I'll go and get some thick stuff.
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Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 01:56 pm, by:  Steven Roduner (Steve89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Update, shelf is cut out, it turns out that the cut out at the top is not center.... so because I traced the shelf laid on the sheet backwards I now need to redraw the griffin on the other side of the MDF. Will give more updates as I go.
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Friday, June 27, 2008 - 03:12 pm, by:  Steven Roduner (Steve89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok time for another update. I got all the griffin cut out today. In the next couple of days I will be looking at fitting the speakers.


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Friday, June 27, 2008 - 03:15 pm, by:  Scott Gates (Scotty_001) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks good, must have taken a fair while to cut the griffin out.
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Friday, June 27, 2008 - 03:16 pm, by:  Michael Marchant (Mavric) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice job, looking forward to seeing the end result
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Friday, June 27, 2008 - 03:19 pm, by:  Steven Roduner (Steve89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the comments guys, very speedy replies . The whole Griffin only took about an hour to cut out.
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 01:14 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks good but do you really want the Air/Petrol Fumes coming in from the boot, could get interesting on a hot day!.
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 02:50 pm, by:  Andrew Stewart (Daboom) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Steve, hows the build comming along?
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 11:47 pm, by:  Steven Roduner (Steve89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rob,I had the whole parcel shelf out for a few days that were rather warm up here in rocky and I didn't actually notice a different smell in the car so I am hoping that's a good sign.

Andrew, haven't made any further progress yet sorry mate, went away for a week and now back at uni so it will be a slow one, however I will keep this up to date as I go, promise
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Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 10:57 pm, by:  Steven Roduner (Steve89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, time for an update.
I have the shelf in the car with the speakers mounted. It took a lot of fine tuning with a sander to get the shelf to fit flush against the glass, and the mounting and fitting of the speakers was a rather painful job.
However, after lots of cursing and so on it’s in. I have to now work out how and what to cover the shelf in... I will post up pics tomorrow as it was too dark to take photos after I finished.
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Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 11:29 am, by:  Steven Roduner (Steve89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Sorry about the bad pics, it is really hard to get a good photo with darkish window tint.

Next mission is to cover the thing. Not sure what to cover it in yet. I'm just happy its in.

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