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Jengiz Isikli
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Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 09:25 am, by: Jengiz Isikli (Jengiz)

Hi, im busting my chops at work, so i cant search through the forum at the moment..
but a quick question..

with the V8 limited, that have the EMV unit.. touch screen etc.

has ANYONE ever managed to engineer an aftermarket double din system dvd/cd.. what ever, into the place where the current EMV is..

BUT, i couldnt figure out a way to do it without removing my VENT buttons etc.. there are buttons on my woodgrain surrounding that control other parts of the interior..

HOW CAN US LIMITED OWNERS PUT IN AFTER MARKET DOUBLE DIN UNITS and keep the buttons too ?

PICS, THREADS..REVEIES.. OPINIONS AND SUGGESTIONS wanted.

thanks

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Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 01:11 pm, by: James Harris (Haro)

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/171174/272549.html?1236092906

ask Tim how to do it

Tim Pike
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Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 02:05 pm, by: Tim Pike (Keydecoder)

Basically there are three ways to do it.

1. Put aftermarket headunit into dash and wire into TV inputs (good for aftermarket DVD players). Need Vlad mod for radio for decent sound quality though.

2. Rewire all the audio, but leave the EMV in place for controlling aircon. Put the aftermarket unit either where the tape deck is (and move the tape deck else where) or somewhere else. Not very useful for double-din units though.

3. Completely remove the EMV system (display, stacker, aircon panel, radio, gps and tv units).
Replace the climate control with non-EMV version (which requires you to rewire the non-EMV climate control unit to the existing wiring, not for the faint of heart) and then put the double din unit where the EMV used to be.

I have basically done the third option. What I did though unlike everyone else I cheated and for the climate control unit, destroyed my EMV climate control module and stole the plug and used that to build a new loom (no under the dash soldering for me

).

Then I did the following to wire in the new double-din unit to the existing audio (stock amps, speakers and sub):

Remove EMV system (EMV screen, tape player, radio unit and dsp, tv unit, cd stacker), leaving in the speakers, amp, sub and sub amp.

Wire in a TT climate control unit (for air-con).

Wire new head-unit into dash. Run new cables from head-unit to amp and sub-amp in boot:

RCA cables for Front and Rear output (run to amp)
RCA cable for Sub output (run to sub-amp)
Wire from system control line to AMP wire in main and sub amp. (single line, split in boot to run to either amp).
Left mute wire unconnected.

Then cut the input wires on the main amp (FL,FR,RL,RR) and wire them into RCA connectors (connecting all the negative lines of the RCA to signal ground wire).

Cut RU+ and RU- wires on sub amp. Still not sure yet how to wire the sub amp in, am thinking about just running some sort of preamp first, still reading up about see (see this for more: http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/13208/113656.html ).

Run the cables under the carpet (either down the middle or down the sides) and then mount the unit where the EMV used to be. Used existing EMV wires for ACC, Battery, Illumination (its the green wire on the TV plug) and Ground wire to run the headunit.

All works for me at the moment, but still have yet to wire in the sub amp.

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Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 02:58 pm, by: Jengiz Isikli (Jengiz)

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH i seee i see so can i use a TT climate control top pannel like you have in my Limited soarer in the place were the factory EMV is.. and then just engineer my new double din DVD screen into the bottom half of the 'area' where the tape deck used to be..

will my current climate control cables etc in the back of the EMV plug into the TT version of climate control
is it all plug and play or do i haveto cut up cables

i NEVER thought of this tim, your an absolute LEGEND mate

im going to put my own sub and amp and new set opf speakers ALL round anyway so the cabling for all that is not important, and neither is locating the factory amp and getting that to work etc..

i planned out al my audio gear but the ONLY thing i neeed help with was HOWW i can get a doubble din DVD screen into my dash and remove the old touchscreen and tape deck

THANKS for your help tim i will read your thread and all links in this reply tonite after work

apreciate it 110% mate

thanks again !!! mint idea!

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Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 05:36 pm, by: Tim Pike (Keydecoder)

I can't really take much credit, its already been done first a few times before by a number of people (Luke Gomer in UK, Brett here in Australia, Fred in NZ as well I believe), along with a number of other people who have also done the conversion.

I suspect though that I'm probably one of the few (if any) that actually built a proper loom by reusing the female connectors from the EMV climate control unit under the dash (and thusly destroying the EMV unit in the process, oh well). So I didn't have to solder connections under the dash, did it all on my desk.

Its also not plug and play, even if you get all the TT loom it actually all plugs together nicely, but doesn't actually work either (Toyota reused some plugs for different purposes).

This thread is a basic outline of what has to be done, although its not the best tutorial.

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/31680/246760.html

I was planning on writing up what I did, but don't really have the time at the moment, but I'll post up later tonight some photos from mine along with a detailed matching for all the connections.

If your not big on soldering, cutting wires or getting up under the dash, then this can be a bit scary looking. Also, I highly recommended getting the wiring diagrams from Jeff Harper before attempting this sort of conversion.

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Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 06:47 pm, by: Jengiz Isikli (Jengiz)

Thanks again TIM

nah nah soldering and wiring, circuit diagrams.. all that jizz i understand, i fix my own electricals around the house anyway, tv's.. dvd players etc..

so thats all good, im not a silly billy

but i just needed someone to point me out some idea's.

thanks again Tim.

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Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 07:54 pm, by: Luke Gomer (Luke)

Or you can just remove the cassette unit and bin it.

Place a single din multimedia unit (DVD/MP4 etc) in its place wired directly to the speakers, and wire the multimedia video directly to the EMV screen.

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Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 11:04 pm, by: Tim Pike (Keydecoder)

Jengiz Isikli wrote on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 06:47 pm:
hanks again TIM

nah nah soldering and wiring, circuit diagrams.. all that jizz i understand, i fix my own electricals around the house anyway, tv's.. dvd players etc..

so thats all good, im not a silly billy

but i just needed someone to point me out some idea's.

thanks again Tim.

Ahh, in that case, just get a copy of the wiring diagrams from Jeff Harper and you'll be set, its all in there, just matching the two wiring looms together. My two biggest suggestions, rip the plug out of the EMV climate control unit (under the dash) and pull the drivers seat out before doing anything under the dash :p

Luke Gomer wrote on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 07:54 pm:
Or you can just remove the cassette unit and bin it.

Place a single din multimedia unit (DVD/MP4 etc) in its place wired directly to the speakers, and wire the multimedia video directly to the EMV screen.

Also a good idea, although I heard its tricky to get a single din unit in under the EMV. I guess you don't need the tape unit for controlling air-con either do you?