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Warren Moore
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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 09:00 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi guys

Looking at getting some aftermarket speakers very soon. I'm going for a full Soundstream system. I'm tossing up between 2 way 4" coaxial's or 4" splits for the front. I'd get splits but there's not a big range available for 4" splits. As the 2 ways have a tweeter, would there be much difference between these and 4" splits? Was maybe thinking even getting the 4" coaxial's and just buying some Soundstream tweeters. Would this work? My amp only has 4 channels..

Also gonna throw some 6.5" coaxial's in the rear. The 4" and 6.5" coaxial's are rated at 120wrms @ 3ohm but my Soundstream amp doesn't rate at 3ohms. It rates at 1ohm/230x4 ,2ohm/160x4 & 4ohm/100x4. Would the speakers work with the amp even though it doesn't rate at 3ohm?

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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 09:41 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That amp will be fine running those speakers.

I'd really try to get some splits over coaxials so the tweeters can be mounted in the factory position. You always want tweeters to be closer to you as high frequencies are directional.

What is Soundstream gear like? I've always thought they were a Supercheap auto brand?
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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 10:00 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe I will get the coaxials in the front plus additional tweeters. Not sure if this is going to work as the tweeters add 2 extra channels, right?

These are the front coaxials im looking at:
http://www.ryda.com.au/Soundstream-SST4-0-Tarantula-4-0-Speakers-p/sst40.htm

tweeters: http://www.ryda.com.au/Soundstream-TWS-1-1-Soft-Dome-Tweeter-p/tws1.htm

rear coaxials: http://www.ryda.com.au/Soundstream-SST6-5-Tarantula-6-5-Speakers-p/sst65.htm

and amp: http://www.ryda.com.au/Soundstream-TRX4-640-Tarantula-4-Ch-Amplifier-p/trx4640.htm

Does anyone have any thoughts on Soundstream?
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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 10:01 pm, by:  David Grab (Blastedbyasoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah they are a supercheap and jb hifi brand. I dont like them at all hearing mates cars. I would be going either kenwood or pioneer on a budget, if your got more cash then Alpine and Focal.

I love my Focals, my wallet hates them haha
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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 10:16 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Were you being serious about that?
They aren't priced like a supercheap brand? maybe I have them mixed up with something else
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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 10:20 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The tweeters will run in parallel with the front speakers mate no worries, the ones you have provided a link to appear to come with a crossover too :-)
Warren Moore
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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 10:23 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't think Soundstream are a supercheap brand haha. They don't sell them at JB or supercheap. They sell them at SSV (Sound Street & Vision). They are priced 2-3x more than Kenwood
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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 10:30 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks pretty supercheap to me..
http://www.streetsoundvision.com.au/index.php?module=Website&action=Text&content=1195711369468-4494
Walter Gillmore
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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 10:38 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

for a cheaper alternative go jaycars gear. kevlar cone stuff. good price and power handling and the sound will kick the crap out of soundstream gear.

memories i have of soundstream stuff are not good. rubber/ butyl surrounds persishing easily, they do not like sunlight.
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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 10:49 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Im willing to spend the money so money is not really an issue. But i dont want to be spending 3-400 on a pair of coaxials. I thought soundstream were fairly decent speakers. I went into JB the other day and listened to some kicker 6" coaxials and they sounded great. They are prices as roughly $110 on ryda.com.au and the soundstreams $190. So if price is anything to go by they will sound amazing
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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 11:02 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

they might have improved their stuff but its a lesson learnt by me a few years ago. focal are the go if you want awesome sound and dont mind spending the cash. never listened to kicker gear, i tend to stay away from any autobarn or supercheap, jb hifi or wow stuff, but if i must go brand names from those stores it would have to be kenwood.

i would like to see some yamaha car audio gear come out. that would definitely take my interest.
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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 11:08 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Warren Pioneer basalt rock speakers sound amazing. I don't know if they are available in 4" though, you'd have to check. Their cheap series of speakers and amps give Pioneer a crap name though, but top line stuff is great and very reasonably priced.

bahahaha by the way that hummer is oozing gayness, screens in the door? let alone 3 of them? cmon man.. thats almost as gay as screens in the boot.
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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 11:10 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

they might have improved their stuff but its a lesson learnt by me a few years ago. focal are the go if you want awesome sound and dont mind spending the cash. never listened to kicker gear, i tend to stay away from any autobarn or supercheap, jb hifi or wow stuff, but if i must go brand names from those stores it would have to be kenwood.

i would like to see some yamaha car audio gear come out. that would definitely take my interest.
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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 11:16 pm, by:  David Grab (Blastedbyasoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Um anyone can knock up a promo car, i mean for a audio company youd think logically they would build a SPL car to promote their products rather than say a drift car which has nothing to do with their product.

And yes here in SA you can get them at some supercheap stores aswell as all JB hifi. Do not rate them at all.

Like Walter said Kenwood have been in the game for ages and know a thing or two where as sound stream is the flashy gimic crap sold pretty much at your local super market. Kenwood is no way flash but is pretty good gear.

I would pretty much go anything rather than soundstream. JL audio, JBL, Orion, Cadence.

Focal sounds crazy good, people love my sterio set up as its so balanced its unbelievable. Quality is awesome and research adn evelopment has brought the good from Focal.
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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 11:23 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh glad you mentioned JBL gear david. i rate their stuff well. for the price. and cadence.
Warren Moore
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Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:12 am, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was looking at getting Soundstream Tarantula. It is their top of the line product. Which 6" coaxial should i get from this site then?
http://www.ryda.com.au/Ryda-Car-Audio-4-Car-Speaker-Store-s/75.htm
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Monday, February 01, 2010 - 08:02 am, by:  Chris Box (Boxsta) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Skip on soundstream, i had them in my last car and i probably wouldnt go back to them. Just did the stereo in my soarer in the last few weeks, and put the new alpine type s in it, 4 inch in the front and 5 1/2 inch in the back and a 1200 watt sub in the boot. couldnt be happier with the result.
what ever you choose tho, Just make sure you dont run the standard wiring that is already in the car, or even the stuff that comes with the speakers. spend the extra $50 and get some good cable, makes a huge difference!
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Monday, February 01, 2010 - 09:55 am, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Which soundstream speakers did you have chris? And I see alpine make a type R, S and X. Which are better?
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Monday, February 01, 2010 - 01:11 pm, by:  Ty Mackay (Duo89) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JL audio stuff is amazing! listen to a single 12" sub kicked the crap out a dual subs...

speakers are REALY clear.. however they are expensive!!

if you want a KICK ass quality for money, you cant go wrong with Hertz..


Warren Moore wrote on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 09:55 am:

Which soundstream speakers did you have chris? And I see alpine make a type R, S and X. Which are better?




Alpine type s is ok still but slowing becoming obsolete..

Type R is still the way to go. as i have heard a few bad things about type x especially for what you pay for it...
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Monday, February 01, 2010 - 02:44 pm, by:  Brian Rignall (Cashmere) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As a direct price comparison, why not compare the 'target buy' speaker with one from the same manufacturer as in your car.

Mostly the Soarers have Panasonic (Matsushita) equipment, with the less common Nakamichi brand.

So if Speaker A is $50 and the Panasonic is $65, then you are going down market (generally speaking).

Whatever you buy, don't replace your speakers with ones that need a whole lot more power from an amplifier to drive them, or else you get very 'thin' or 'weak' sound, because the OEM Amp isn't up to the job.
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Monday, February 01, 2010 - 04:53 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh there is an OEM amp? I thought everything was run off the stock headunit.

Anyway I will be getting an amp with which ever speakers I get because I am looking for some really loud, crystal clear speakers.

Still not sure what speakers to get though. I was looking at getting the same branded front 4" & rear 6.5" speakers and amp. I thought Soundstream Tarantula's would be good because they are one of the most expensive speakers at ryda.com.au

Can someone provide me which speakers I should get from ryda.com.au that are the same brand 4" fronts, 6.5" rears and amp.

Thanks
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Monday, February 01, 2010 - 11:27 pm, by:  David Grab (Blastedbyasoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Look into Eclipse as i also forgot to mention them. Very good stuff back 2-3 years ago, dont know now put i would be confident they still would be awesome noe. They have good amps, great subs and pretty decent speakers aswell so you could go all Eclipse.
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If you want good Speakers, Get some Focal K2P Speakers.
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Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 07:15 am, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Haha im not paying a grand for a pair of components Boris. I want something fairly decent around the $150-$250 price range for a pair of components.
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Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 03:37 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have decided on Alpine type R 6.5" 2 ways for the rear however I want the same speakers on the front. But I can't find any Type R's in 4". The Type S comes in 4", would these go well with the Typr R 6.5" as the rear would be 100RMS and front only 45RMS.
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Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 02:52 am, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So long as you have an amp to change the gain levels, so one set of speakers doesn't begin distorting before the other.

The new Pioneer range is decent, Their TS-D Series is good. I cant find any 4" Splits but there are some 4" components here :

http://www.pioneer.com.au/en/Products/Car%20Entertainment/Speakers/TS%20D1002R.aspx

As for 4" Splits there are these but they are the lower range :

http://www.pioneer.com.au/Products/Car%20Entertainment/Speakers/TS%20C1002.aspx
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Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 04:05 am, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Okay now I am tossing up between the Alpine Type R 6.5" and lower range Focal Access 165 CA1 6.5".

Alpine are 100WRMS while the Focal's are only 60WRMS.

Here's a link for both

Alpine's:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ALPINE-SPR-17C-6-5-COAXIAL-TYPE-R-SPEAKERS-300-W-FREE_W0QQitemZ280432755402QQ cmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Speakers?hash=item414b1842ca

Focal's: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FOCAL-165CA1-NEW-6-5-2-WAY-COAXIAL-SPEAKERS-165-CA1_W0QQitemZ110481970837QQcm dZViewItemQQptZCar_Speakers?hash=item19b93d1695

Which do you guys suggest?
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Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 06:56 am, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not sure how good focals access range is, probably a good idea to go listen to them both before buying.

If your considering something in that price range, Try the CDT CL-62 Components.

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