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Warren Moore
Newbie
Victoria
Soarer 6cyl 3.0L

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Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 01:30 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hows it doing guys. this is my first post of hopefully many posts to come in the future.

I am about to buy a 6cyl 3.0L Soarer from an importer and the car has done 99,000ks. From the looks of things I will need to do a 100k major service before I get it on the roads.

I just wanted to know roughly how much this major service would cost. I have been told in excess of a grand including parts.

Seeing as it is a fresh import and has done compliance testing to meet Australian road standards, would I even need a 100k major service?

cheers
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo
WA
V8 Limited

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Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 05:20 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

depends on the condition of the timing belt, waterpump, seals, etc. and yes its going to be over a grand
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 09:22 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Warren.

Compliance and servicing are unrelated. Perhaps factor the service into your price negotiations.
Boris Siljanoski
TryHard
Western Australia
Soarer GZ20 TT

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Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 03:45 am, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Compliance means adding certain features that are required under ADR to register the car on roads, such as different seatbelt locations, side intrusion bars. Like Peter said it has nothing to do with whether you need or not replace certain parts under the 100k Service, it is unrelated.

Cost all depends on what is replaced and how much time it takes the mechanic to replace the parts.

Ussually a 100k Service includes changing all fluids, that is brake, engine oil, power steering, transmission fluid, cooolant. Changing plugs and the Timing belt.

Parts about $200 all up. Labour about 5 hours or maybe more. You'll be looking at about $700 Upwards so about 1 grand. If the water pump needs replacing that will definitely drive the cost to 1 grand or over.

Most people chose to get their waterpump replaced during the timing belt change even if it is in good condition, because it wont occur that much extra cost in labour if you do it at the same time while the timing belt and other parts are off.
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
uzz31 v8

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Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 10:47 am, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dont forget fuel filter,brake fluid flush,engine oil and filter are all done at compliance
Pity you are not in WA as its $385 inc belt + labour where i work.
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
uzz31 v8

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Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 11:03 am, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I made a blue above i ment to say"$385 inc belt and labour"
John Jantzen
TryHard
Tasmania
V8 '31 on '30 suspension

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Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 07:04 pm, by:  John Jantzen (Taslex) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I strongly suggest you change the water pump too. I didn't, and it failed 30K later - bearing in pump was absolutely stuffed. Same amount of labour again to replace it, so it's false economy not to have it done. Pump + O-rings (separate parts now) will cost just under $300 from Toyota. This was for a V8 though - no idea what the 3L pump costs.
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Friday, January 08, 2010 - 07:56 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Much cheaper and easier job on the JZZ31. No need to remove the timing belt. Pump is around $150, and should take no more than a couple of hours.

My original water pump has now done 180,000km. I think if you flush your cooling system regularly (every two years for me) and use only Toyota long life, they are actually very reliable.
Warren Moore
Newbie
Victoria
Soarer 6cyl 3.0L

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Monday, January 11, 2010 - 09:13 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What do you mean no need to remove the timing belt Matt?
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 05:58 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just saying if you don't want to replace the water pump now, you can leave it until later without it costing you too much more in labour. On the V8 it makes sense to replace it at the same time as the belt regardless, as the V8 drives the water pump off the back of the timing belt.
Scott Wilkes
Goo Roo
Tasmania
92 TT Factory Manual, 70 HG GTS Monaro

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 08:24 am, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

are you saying the NA 2JZ runs a different setup to the turbo 1JZ/2JZ mathew? As i was under the imprssion the NA block is the same as the Turbo block
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 06:17 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, same basic water pump setup as the 1JZ as far as I know, at least thats what I'm told, I've never looked too closely at the 1JZ water pump, so it might be different. As far as I know you can even use the 2JZ pump on a 1JZ with some minor modifications.
Scott Wilkes
Goo Roo
Tasmania
92 TT Factory Manual, 70 HG GTS Monaro

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Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 08:12 am, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

leaving it until later would entail removing all your fan, shrounds, timing covers, harmonic balancer, and belt still though, which would be twice the labour as getting it done once while its all apart., as it still requires removal of the timing belt

I did my timing belt etc about 2 weeks back, my waterpump looked fine, but still replaced it, the waterpump shaft had no drag on it from the seals so it was only a small ammount of time before it started to leak, and this is from a genuine 80,000k old soarer haha.
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 06:35 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Really? You still have to remove the timing belt? Looking at mine I would not have thought so, I can see all the bolts holding it on, even with the timing covers in place - can't imagine why you would have to remove the timing belt?

Removing the timing covers would make bolt access much easier (looks like it might be tough/near impossible without having the covers off, which would of course mean taking off the harmonic balancer, but again thats not a big job if you have the right tool and your balancer bolt isn't too hard to break free) Fan, shroud and V-belt are all very easy to remove in the JZZ31 as there is heaps of room, takes me around 5 minutes these days as I've done it so many times recently when my harmonic balancer pully came off.
Joshua Rao
Goo Roo
WA
JZZ30 vvti GT-L, 94 TT manual (being wrecked), Legnum VR4

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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 04:54 am, by:  Joshua Rao (Soaren1) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mine cost $1325 with Hollywood Joe and to give you an indication included

Service and Replacing eng oil and filter, diff oil, trans oil, fuel filter (supplied), brake fluid, timing belt, water pump, front seals, coolant
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Reg: 10-2005

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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 06:18 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That doesn't sound too bad considering there is $600-$700 worth of parts and consumables there, assuming he did a full transmission flush.

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