Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 01:30 pm, by: Warren Moore(Warreng)
hows it doing guys. this is my first post of hopefully many posts to come in the future.
I am about to buy a 6cyl 3.0L Soarer from an importer and the car has done 99,000ks. From the looks of things I will need to do a 100k major service before I get it on the roads.
I just wanted to know roughly how much this major service would cost. I have been told in excess of a grand including parts.
Seeing as it is a fresh import and has done compliance testing to meet Australian road standards, would I even need a 100k major service?
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 03:45 am, by: Boris Siljanoski(Z2tt)
Compliance means adding certain features that are required under ADR to register the car on roads, such as different seatbelt locations, side intrusion bars. Like Peter said it has nothing to do with whether you need or not replace certain parts under the 100k Service, it is unrelated.
Cost all depends on what is replaced and how much time it takes the mechanic to replace the parts.
Ussually a 100k Service includes changing all fluids, that is brake, engine oil, power steering, transmission fluid, cooolant. Changing plugs and the Timing belt.
Parts about $200 all up. Labour about 5 hours or maybe more. You'll be looking at about $700 Upwards so about 1 grand. If the water pump needs replacing that will definitely drive the cost to 1 grand or over.
Most people chose to get their waterpump replaced during the timing belt change even if it is in good condition, because it wont occur that much extra cost in labour if you do it at the same time while the timing belt and other parts are off.
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 10:47 am, by: Dave Rose(Sand_groper)
Dont forget fuel filter,brake fluid flush,engine oil and filter are all done at compliance Pity you are not in WA as its $385 inc belt + labour where i work.
Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 07:04 pm, by: John Jantzen(Taslex)
I strongly suggest you change the water pump too. I didn't, and it failed 30K later - bearing in pump was absolutely stuffed. Same amount of labour again to replace it, so it's false economy not to have it done. Pump + O-rings (separate parts now) will cost just under $300 from Toyota. This was for a V8 though - no idea what the 3L pump costs.
Friday, January 08, 2010 - 07:56 am, by: Matthew Sharpe(Madmatt)
Much cheaper and easier job on the JZZ31. No need to remove the timing belt. Pump is around $150, and should take no more than a couple of hours.
My original water pump has now done 180,000km. I think if you flush your cooling system regularly (every two years for me) and use only Toyota long life, they are actually very reliable.
Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 05:58 am, by: Matthew Sharpe(Madmatt)
Just saying if you don't want to replace the water pump now, you can leave it until later without it costing you too much more in labour. On the V8 it makes sense to replace it at the same time as the belt regardless, as the V8 drives the water pump off the back of the timing belt.
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 06:17 am, by: Matthew Sharpe(Madmatt)
No, same basic water pump setup as the 1JZ as far as I know, at least thats what I'm told, I've never looked too closely at the 1JZ water pump, so it might be different. As far as I know you can even use the 2JZ pump on a 1JZ with some minor modifications.
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 08:12 am, by: Scott Wilkes(Scottywilkes)
leaving it until later would entail removing all your fan, shrounds, timing covers, harmonic balancer, and belt still though, which would be twice the labour as getting it done once while its all apart., as it still requires removal of the timing belt
I did my timing belt etc about 2 weeks back, my waterpump looked fine, but still replaced it, the waterpump shaft had no drag on it from the seals so it was only a small ammount of time before it started to leak, and this is from a genuine 80,000k old soarer haha.
Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 06:35 am, by: Matthew Sharpe(Madmatt)
Really? You still have to remove the timing belt? Looking at mine I would not have thought so, I can see all the bolts holding it on, even with the timing covers in place - can't imagine why you would have to remove the timing belt?
Removing the timing covers would make bolt access much easier (looks like it might be tough/near impossible without having the covers off, which would of course mean taking off the harmonic balancer, but again thats not a big job if you have the right tool and your balancer bolt isn't too hard to break free) Fan, shroud and V-belt are all very easy to remove in the JZZ31 as there is heaps of room, takes me around 5 minutes these days as I've done it so many times recently when my harmonic balancer pully came off.