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Davin Kemshead
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Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 10:24 am, by: Davin Kemshead (Djdevilishrd)

What weight of oil should I be using in the Summer and the Winter in Alberta.

I'm assuming Full Synthetic 5W30 is fine but I need to confirm

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Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 10:39 am, by: Dale Holan (Xtrax)

5 w 30 Castrol Syntec at the moment. Parked for the winter.

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Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 05:21 am, by: Scott Ferguson (Scott_ferguson)

5W30 Amsoil Full synthetic and it's run all winter long.

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Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 01:02 pm, by: Davin Kemshead (Djdevilishrd)

Do you use the same weight in the summer?

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Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 05:22 am, by: Scott Ferguson (Scott_ferguson)

I do indeed.

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Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 06:46 am, by: Davin Kemshead (Djdevilishrd)

Thanks for all of your help.

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Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 07:04 am, by: Scott Ferguson (Scott_ferguson)

Not a problem Davin

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 09:40 am, by: Mike Thomas (Petcanizzle)

i would say AMOSIL 5w40 european car formula ALL YEAR if appropriate because of the better cold tolerance and better viscosity at high temps (the 40 part)...

0w30 is great too..
both are good turbo oils and amsoil wins at everything

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 01:03 am, by: Scott Ferguson (Scott_ferguson)

The reason I would say that you may want to stick with a 5w30 not a 40 would be that that was what the engine was using from the factory. You can make use of synthetics but have to watch that the benefit of a synthetic oil being more consistant doesn't come back to bite you.

Actually I found out that Amsoil doesn't win at EVERYTHING, turns out the Wix filter for the soarer is the exact same filter inside and out as the Amsoil filter. But when the Amsoil filter costs 15-18 dollars and the Wix is about 5 dollars , I know which I'm using.

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 02:44 am, by: Mike Thomas (Petcanizzle)

well unless its manufactured by amsoil it cant be the same because amsoils are patented so the best it could be is a very similar copy.

which ill grant you is probably fine. i dont use amsoil filters cuz they often dont have one for my car or are too expensive and hard to find.

but the oil itself is top notch.. cant beat it.

the reason i was thinking the 5w40 is ok is because it has the same cold tolerances as factory oil and is the perfect cold tolerance for this climate without sacrificing for our summers ...

but the 40 rather than the 30, combined weith the extra benefit of synthetics being smoother and a bit lighter, would help it avoid gelling in winter, and definitely help keep it running smooth in high temps in summer...

i think we are perfectly safe with a 5w30 here in canada really... but.. if your car is modded at all or you ever race or go to the track, 5w40 will handle u better.

i remember putting 5w50 ferrari race oil in my mazda just for summer that year it was 40celcius for 2 months... never ran better or cleaner and when i did the change at end of summer the oil had pulled everything bad out of the engine and it ran like a top all winter.

i will be using either 0w30 Amsoil Severe Service oil or 5w40 Euro formula.. primarily because both are rated as best for turbo engines over the lower rated 10w30...

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 02:57 am, by: Scott Ferguson (Scott_ferguson)

Mike Thomas wrote on Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 02:44 am:
well unless its manufactured by amsoil it cant be the same because amsoils are patented so the best it could be is a very similar copy.

which ill grant you is probably fine. i dont use amsoil filters cuz they often dont have one for my car or are too expensive and hard to find.

but the oil itself is top notch.. cant beat it.

In actual fact they both come from the same factory from the same machinery. Amsoil doesn't actually manufacture their own filter Mike. It's simply rebranded. The filter we would normally use for the soarer from Amsoil is an EA057 in case you've had issues finding it.

As far as the oil goes, i fully agree with a 5w oil in our climate and being sythetic will be fine in the summer as well. However I'm not sure I understand what you mean by avoiding gelling in winter.

This for two reasons. First of all the first number (eg. 5) is the performance of the oil when cold. That would be the only point at which gelling would ever be a concern. And secondly a 30 weight would be a thinner oil at operating temps whereas a 40 would be a thicker oil. Our engines tolerances are designed to a 30 weight oil at operating temps. Going to a thicker oil doesn't really have the same benefits as it once did when using mineral oils. Synthetic oil remains much more resistant to change due to heat.

Regardless a 30 or 40 would be fine imo.

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Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 04:24 am, by: Scott Ferguson (Scott_ferguson)

Mike Thomas wrote on Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 02:44 am:
well unless its manufactured by amsoil it cant be the same because amsoils are patented so the best it could be is a very similar copy.

It should also be noted that they aren't even really hiding the fact that either WIX makes the AMSOIL filters or vice versa as they are now a Wix distributor.