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Jeff Bedsor
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Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 07:23 am, by:  Jeff Bedsor (Jeff_bedsor) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great bit of detective work Marty, it's amazing what can be found on the net.
Mark Tierney
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Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 08:54 am, by:  Mark Tierney (Mark_t) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice work...
could this be of interest? anyone know what David/Dawid/[Deleted] looks like ? ??

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Mark Tierney
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I'm sure he'd love to hear from you guys if this is him

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Drew Rechner
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Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 09:53 am, by:  Drew Rechner (Drew1jz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thats not Dave. I have met him several times and it aint him.
Joshua White
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Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 10:11 am, by:  Joshua White (Joshua_88) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I might email that tool anyways because he just looks sus plus at this point anyone with that last name is on the firing line. I don't care if it's some 80 year old grandma. They'll all cop it from me. Plus no offence Drew but I don't trust anyone from the forum now and especially someone who has met david because for all I know you could be a mate covering for him. Honestly i'm that dirty that if I saw on the news that david died in a car crash or some accident i'd simply say karma and change the channel.
Jeff Bedsor
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This has to be his facebook page, most of the friends are located in Adelaide
http://www.facebook.com/search.php?q=DAWID%20GRABOWICZ&init=quick&tas=0.0740229461236186&search_firs t_focus=1309829954391#!/profile.php?id=564163530&sk=friends&v=friends
Drew Rechner
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Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 11:26 am, by:  Drew Rechner (Drew1jz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Joshua White wrote on Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 10:11 am:

They'll all cop it from me. Plus no offence Drew but I don't trust anyone from the forum now and especially someone who has met david because for all I know you could be a mate covering for him




It's all good man, if I was in your situation I wouldn't either. I only met him at SC meetings and he brought a bootlid off me. I can give you the phone number I had for him if you want but it doesn't work anymore...
Peter Angelopoulos
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Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 03:02 pm, by:  Peter Angelopoulos (Tsoylani) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Would the cops even bother? or would it be better to start off at a lawyer?
Marty Whytcross
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Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 04:19 pm, by:  Marty Whytcross (Marty_whytcross) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the cops didn't bother than there is something seriously wrong with the justice system in this country.
Richard West
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Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 06:17 pm, by:  Richard West (Omen666) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Current details for ABN: 24 240 069 892
Current details Historical details Disclaimer
ABN detailshelp
Entity name: GRABOWICZ, DAWID
ABN status: Active from 16 Aug 2010
Entity type: Individual/Sole Trader
Goods & Services Tax (GST): Not currently registered for GST
Main business location: SA 5084
Trading name(s): Jap Dream Works

The post code is there if that helps?
That's straight off the government ABN Lookup site

http://www.abr.business.gov.au/SearchByAbn.aspx?SearchText=24240069892

I reckon a lawyer or a private Debt collector is the way to go, a small debt collector will be able to find him with all that info, just at what cost.
Sebastian Grant
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Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 06:37 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I appreciate everyones help in this matter however I have no grounds to sue anymore as I have my kit so please no more pms thanks.

Joshua, I've sent you a email with David's address and I've posted these links:

http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/lawlink/local_courts/ll_localcourts.nsf/pages/lc_money_issues


http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/lawlink/local_courts/ll_localcourts.nsf/vwFiles/Does_someone_owe_you_m oney.pdf/$file/Does_someone_owe_you_money.pdf

The ball is in your court mate, either you do what is required to MAKE David sort this out or just let it go it's that simple. The prick will not do what's right unless you make him. This is a very clear cut case which David hasn't got a chance of winning.
Sebastian Grant
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Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 06:42 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Marty Whytcross wrote on Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 04:19 pm:

If the cops didn't bother than there is something seriously wrong with the justice system in this country.



Seriously think about this for a minute. What do you propose, we print off 200 pages of text, take it to the cop shop and make them spend hours reading it and then decide wether or not there's a case to charge David for theft/fraud?
Mark Bryant
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Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 06:55 pm, by:  Mark Bryant (2jz_nat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not sure if this is the same but the info should help.
I a few years ago paid for some items off ebay and the seller didnt send them.
After months of ignored emails i took ebays advice and reported this to my local police station.

In no longer than 2-3 weeks my items were delivered from the seller off Ebay.

My advice would be there is no harm in taking this to your local police and giving it a shot.
Whats to loose if they tell you to piss off?
More than likely they can point you in the right direction if they can't help.

My item was worth a lot less than this and they were more then happy to help.

Good luck guys!This bloke should think of the stress he has caused and what not before going into hidding.
Marty Whytcross
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Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 07:27 pm, by:  Marty Whytcross (Marty_whytcross) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm mainly concerned that Joshua has nothing to show for what he has paid & will never receive anything.. I was not aware he already has David's address. In that case that makes mister plods job a lot easier. Good luck Joshua.
Ali Saeed
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Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 11:00 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Off topicish, but whats the go with getting the kit from the shop now? can you like buy it off them or something?
Joe Aliano
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Wednesday, July 06, 2011 - 07:59 am, by:  Joe Aliano (Sexylexus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Sebastian Grant wrote on Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 06:42 pm:

Seriously think about this for a minute. What do you propose, we print off 200 pages of text, take it to the cop shop and make them spend hours reading it and then decide wether or not there's a case to charge David for theft/fraud?




That's exactly what I'd expect from the police and why settle for anything less , the police are here to protect and serve but of course now days that's changed serve and retrieve ....revenue that is.

Then they wonder why an eye for an eye is escalating.
Peter Angelopoulos
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Wednesday, July 06, 2011 - 09:25 am, by:  Peter Angelopoulos (Tsoylani) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard thats some good information mate appreciate your input!
Peter Nitschke
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Friday, July 08, 2011 - 05:29 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is getting more interesting. I have just had this email.


Cease and Desist.

yadayada...

From a gmail.com address - seriously?

I am just following it up with legal people.
Ben Lipman
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Friday, July 08, 2011 - 06:51 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is interesting. I'd rather insist he deceased...
Peter Nitschke
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Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 04:17 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I now feel that the other Grabowicz isn't actually Dawid, so I have deleted his name as a courtesy.

However this supposed legal letter and other issues are putting Dawid and the other Grabowicz in a worse light as more things are revealed.

There are just so many questions.

Stay tuned.
Peter Nitschke
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Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 01:00 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All evidence now is that the email was sent by Dawid while hiding behind the implied name of a local solicitor who actually knows nothing about the case.

Guys, it's now unfortunately pretty simple.

Those that are still owed something, need to band together, and go to the SA police with your case.

Take printouts from this thread and any other evidence that you have, eg correspondence, bank statements showing that you have paid the money etc.

Combining your complaints will increase the severity of the complaint.

If you were dealing with his "business", then also go to the ACCC who can prosecute the case on your behalf.

Fishing around the Internet won't really help get this any further and indeed may just be wasting time as an excuse for taking real action.

You already have what you need, his real name - Dawid Grabowicz, his bank account details and his business name and ABN.

Go do it!
Sebastian Grant
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Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 06:29 am, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any progress or are you just going to let dawid getaway with it?
Drew Rechner
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Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 11:24 am, by:  Drew Rechner (Drew1jz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think everyone got scared off when David did the phony lawyer thing...
Sebastian Grant
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Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 01:00 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nah, dawid wouldn't want this to go to court. He doesnt have a leg to stand on. He's just relying on the fact that people are too lazy to do anything about it.
Drew Rechner
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Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 06:49 pm, by:  Drew Rechner (Drew1jz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

True that mate
David Grima
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Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 06:57 pm, by:  David Grima (Maltezr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so how many of you guys actually got there kits and how many got ripped off?
Sebastian Grant
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Technically only Joshua white has missed out on a kit all together but others are missing their grills and postage money.
Sami Ansari
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Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 10:50 pm, by:  Sami Ansari (Thesaint) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nup, I never got my kit or grill, should never have sent the final $600. Never got a reply after I had sent it. Unfortunately, I am currently way to busy to do anything about it.
Joshua White
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Friday, August 12, 2011 - 07:47 am, by:  Joshua White (Joshua_88) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've contacted the SA police and i'm waiting for them to look into it and get back to me.
Drew Rechner
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Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 03:51 pm, by:  Drew Rechner (Drew1jz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Joshua White wrote on Friday, August 12, 2011 - 07:47 am:

I've contacted the SA police and i'm waiting for them to look into it and get back to me.




don't mean to open old wounds but did anyone ever get in contact with David or did the police ever catch up with him?
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Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 11:35 am, by:  Costa Tsimiklis (Driftshop) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What's the latest with this Fiasco?
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Updates?
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Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 09:04 pm, by:  Orton Marchant (Mythorite) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe this forum needs to make a disclaimer when everything purchase all details are recorded and signed and each buyer and seller holds a copy etc

Or just used paypal
David Luu
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Friday, January 20, 2012 - 01:27 pm, by:  David Luu (Vvti) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Paypal wouldn't help as it only 45 or 90 days which they will allow you to open up a dispute.

Looks like this has gone on for quite a while!

I will bringing in a Genuine Shine Auto AC Kit. If anyone in who was in this groupbuy still wants a kit (and hasn't been scarred for life) then I will get them a really good price as I just feel really bad for the guys that got done in the Groupbuy. I don't mean to threadjack but am just putting it out there.
Ali Saeed
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Friday, August 24, 2012 - 10:37 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any updates with this?
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I'll be selling mine if anyone's interested.
Chris Ryan
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Tuesday, August 28, 2012 - 11:11 am, by:  Chris Ryan (Ryzan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Has yours been fitted Sebastian? Any price?
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Mine hasn't been fitted. I'm not willing to post either. It's too bloody big and I'd want who ever buys it to see it in person before purchase. I'd sell it for $1600 with the 97 grill.
Andrew Brown
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Sunday, October 05, 2014 - 01:25 am, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just reading all that fiasco there, does sound too good..

but reviving an old thread there's another group buy on auto couture kits going on right now that maybe some of you guys are interested in.
Daniel Marshall is organising moulds and creation of more copy kits.
(Copied from the last group buy kits, but with improvements to quality)

Currently in the EOI phase, sign on if you want a kit. (Will be the top post of the page)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/684976448228880/
Boris Siljanoski
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Unless somebody has put safeguards in place to stop people getting conned like last time, then group buys like this should not be done anymore or advertised on here.
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I believe the safeguard will be through the use of paypal
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Keep in mind Paypal only allows for a 45 day limit for a claim to be made, so make sure who-ever is doing the group buy, can kit the kit produced, packed and posted under 45 days from payment and that all buyers are clearly aware of this otherwise Paypal wont do anything.

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