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Costa Tsimiklis
DieHard
Victoria
386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094 
Posts: 725
Reg: 07-2008
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Hey Guys,
I have installed the sway bar set that I got for myself to ensure that this batch was a bolt on a affair. WHAT A @#(*& Difference GOOD swaybars make!
Stock Swaybars: 2-3mm thick hollow spring steel tube with hardly any stiffness! Front Weighs around 2-3kg and rear weighs around 1kg!
Whiteline Adjustable Swaybars, SOLID SPRING STEEL, Front is around 10+kg and rear around 8kg!
I knew swaybars made a difference, but I did not expect to go through my usual street course corners at 10-15km more than I would on my first go with little or no effort! The directness is awesome and the body roll has been reduced by at least 2x-3x more. In addition, Its a way stiffer ride around corners, but there is no sacrifice to everyday driving over bumps - in fact it feels smoother and more settled on the road. The cornering feeling feels like I have slicks on instead of average road tyres and the car communicates a bit more directly as to if there is any slip angle. Before, even with my coilovers, the tyres would complain and it felt like the sidewalls were being overloaded during some heavy corners due to the body roll. With the Swaybars, it feels like the entire tyre is load sharing and the body roll is very manageable. It really does stick to the road a whole lot better. I have backed off my damping settings by 30% due to the extra cornering stiffness the swaybars gave me. This equals a smoother every day ride with better road holding and more comfort, with perfect tracking through the corners when needed!
I am upgrading each suspension system, one part at a time to detect the difference each mod makes. By far Swaybars are my TOP 2 best mods ever to be done on the soarer for handling. at ~$520 Delivered, even with stock springs and clapped out stock suspension, you will notice a huge difference in handling performance!
So much so, I am thinking of getting another set on the next GB for the drag car as I need a soft spring setup to launch, but i hate how floaty it is in the corners. I think the sway bars will improve this dramatically!
Second to installing my D-Project coil overs, this is the BEST suspension mod I have done to the Soarer. I'm in love with the way the car handles again! I think it might be time to organise another hills cruise 
Freight is being picked up tomorrow morning. Delivery to NSW/SA Metro is 1-2 working days (Tuesday/Wednesday) QLD 3-4 working days (Thursday/Friday). Thus, you have the weekend to install your super duper swaybars that will blow your mind as to how well the car handles with this mod!
Please let me know how the car feels with the swaybar mod! |
Cameron James
TryHard
NSW
Soarer GT-TL
Posts: 137
Reg: 09-2009
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Awesome Costa - cant wait to fit them! |
Chris Lock
DieHard
sa
V8 Limited
Posts: 720
Reg: 03-2008
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Are these easy to fit? or hard and needing special equipment? |
Allan Langford
Tinkerer
Vic
UZZ31
Posts: 40
Reg: 05-2010
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Sounds like Mr Costa has a bar on about his bars on!
I did say they where a good thing
easy to fit, I only needed to drop one rear muffler for the rear bar and hold back a bit of the front under tray plastics, a job that requires a mate but no real special skills |
Costa Tsimiklis
DieHard
Victoria
386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 726
Reg: 07-2008
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Basic hand tools required. If you have a custom 1 piece catback exhaust, I would recommend dropping the whole exhaust to easily fit the rear sway bar.
10mm, 12mm, 14mm sockets/spanners required
screw drivers etc for the front plastics.
Tip: You must install the sway bars with the whole axle off the ground, ie: both front or rear wheels must be up and in the air at the same time - otherwise the sway bar will be torqued and be hard to get off / dangerous. Helps if you remove the wheels too
Rear Swaybar links are kept - Front sway bar links are changed to the Whiteline ones. The stiffest setting is the shortest setting on the sway bar. Start with this setting - you will not be upset! Both Front/Rear together at their max stiffness = neutral and balanced from my driving experience.
I have installed pics and before/after pics, just need to transfer the pics from the flash card to the pc and upload to SC's format. |
Costa Tsimiklis
DieHard
Victoria
386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 727
Reg: 07-2008
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Courier Booked and paid for. Cam, Matt and Chris, Have you received an email with the connote details? Please let me know. |
Cameron James
TryHard
NSW
Soarer GT-TL
Posts: 138
Reg: 09-2009
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Recieved mate thanks!  |
Matt Newman
TryHard
QLD
soarer tt
Posts: 276
Reg: 11-2007
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got the delivery notice |
Costa Tsimiklis
DieHard
Victoria
386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 731
Reg: 07-2008
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Pics of the Bars and Install:
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Chris Dmochowski
TryHard
SA
TT Soarer
Posts: 211
Reg: 06-2007
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w00t just got my sway bars cant wait to fit them thanks Costa! |
Costa Tsimiklis
DieHard
Victoria
386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 732
Reg: 07-2008
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Chris Dmochowski
TryHard
SA
TT Soarer
Posts: 212
Reg: 06-2007
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Just finished with the rear
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Cameron James
TryHard
NSW
Soarer GT-TL
Posts: 139
Reg: 09-2009
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Mine just arrived in the dock - will have them fitted after work today... just can't wait till the weekend I am too impatient!
Think i wil need an extra 15kw to offset the weight of the front bar though... what a beast! |
Cameron James
TryHard
NSW
Soarer GT-TL
Posts: 140
Reg: 09-2009
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Costa.
The front swaybar you supplied is BTF67Z
The bush and link kit you supplied is BTF76Z (MA60 Supra)
They do not fit &%*#!!! Please advise your supplier the wrong parts were supplied and have the correct bushes kit sent to me as soon as possible. |
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo
WA
UZZ31
Posts: 2644
Reg: 09-2007
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haha seems like a typo there Cameron. bad luck mate |
Chris Dmochowski
TryHard
SA
TT Soarer
Posts: 213
Reg: 06-2007
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Yeah same here I emaild Costa and I called car torque (the place that they come from) and there going to call white line tomorrow to have a set of links and bushers sent out but its going to take a fue days sucks because i have already removed my stock sway bar and stuffed the stock links doing so now Im with out a car for the next fue days   |
Allan Langford
Tinkerer
Vic
UZZ31
Posts: 42
Reg: 05-2010
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errrr how do you order the bushes and links separate?
sounds like a whiteline fopar to me!
p.s I may still have the stock whiteline links here if i have not binned them! if anyone needs them let me know there yours for the cost of shipping |
Costa Tsimiklis
DieHard
Victoria
386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 733
Reg: 07-2008
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Hey Guys,
I'm not sure what went wrong - I fitted my kit out of the packet and assumed that everything else was OK as they were unopened? If there is a problem, Whiteline stuffed up their delivery as they came directly from whiteline. 
Can you guys post a photo up of exactly what is wrong? Do the links look like mine in the photos? |
Costa Tsimiklis
DieHard
Victoria
386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 734
Reg: 07-2008
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The serial number on the packet, as in the picture is 3TF67Z - What did you guys get?!
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Chris Dmochowski
TryHard
SA
TT Soarer
Posts: 214
Reg: 06-2007
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i got BTF76Z its ment to be for a MA60 supra |
Chris Dmochowski
TryHard
SA
TT Soarer
Posts: 215
Reg: 06-2007
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Pic of link
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Costa Tsimiklis
DieHard
Victoria
386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 736
Reg: 07-2008
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Ok that is an EPIC FAIL for whiteline there.
So Sorry guys, I'll email the pic to the supplier and get a replacement sorted out.
Is the SWAYBAR the same as in the pictures? TF67Z ? |
Cameron James
TryHard
NSW
Soarer GT-TL
Posts: 141
Reg: 09-2009
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The swaybar is marked with TF67Z just like the one shown in your pic but the fitting kit is marked 3TF76Z
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Chris Dmochowski
TryHard
SA
TT Soarer
Posts: 216
Reg: 06-2007
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Yeah the bar it self is correct |
Costa Tsimiklis
DieHard
Victoria
386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 737
Reg: 07-2008
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Ok WICKED! Swaybar swap over will really FML! Looks like someone with a MA60 will also be in for a suprise lol!
I'll get you guys sorted out ASAP and then wait for matt's report regarding the swaybar + link situation.
I've emailed everything to the supplier to get it all sorted out. I will report to this thread with any updates.
Fingers crossed they can read a part number and send the correct ones this time!  |
Allan Langford
Tinkerer
Vic
UZZ31
Posts: 43
Reg: 05-2010
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Whiteline quality control at it's best! any of you guys had to drill out the holes in the bar's yet so the bolts fit? |
Costa Tsimiklis
DieHard
Victoria
386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 738
Reg: 07-2008
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No drilling for me Everything went so smooth.... kinda feel like crap now for not randomly selecting the one that has link issues.
As a precaution, I am assuming that Matt has received the wrong set. I have requested that whiteline send the replacement parts directly to you guys, and a return satchel for the incorrect parts so no one is out of pocket.
When you have stupid part numbers that DO NOT mean anything and have the same numbers swapped around - things are bound to go wrong. There should be a chassis prefix to stop this from happening, eg: JZA80-TF67Z MA61-TF76Z
I always put the make and chassis code in the part numbers on my stock to minimize interpretation errors. You'll also notice that most manufactures have a PN prefix that is part of a system, eg: gearbox, powertrain, interior - then a part number that goes with the family and then the sequence number of that part. Common business sense! Toyota have it down pat! |
Matt Newman
TryHard
QLD
soarer tt
Posts: 278
Reg: 11-2007
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cool thanks Costa still waiting for mine to be delivered |
Murray Lund
TryHard
NSW
V8
Posts: 306
Reg: 07-2005
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Hi Costa,
When do you need payment for the next batch of swaybar orders?
Murray |
Costa Tsimiklis
DieHard
Victoria
386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 739
Reg: 07-2008
|
Hey Murray,
As soon as we get another 4+ ready to go, I can place the order and pre-pay for the shipment to get it here ASAP. Please let me know your postcode for shipping references.
Current GB List:
1. Tim Ross (front + rear)
2. Murray Lund (Front + Rear)
3. You?
4.
5.
Etc |
Costa Tsimiklis
DieHard
Victoria
386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 740
Reg: 07-2008
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Link Update: Chris should receive his by Thursday and I have requested the the replacement links to be sent to Matt and Cam ASAP. |
Cameron James
TryHard
NSW
Soarer GT-TL
Posts: 142
Reg: 09-2009
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Delivery from Whiteline just arrived containing 1 x 3TF67Z - thanks for chasing it up Costa - will have it all fitted up this arvo... but no return con-note included - I am assuming they dont want the incorrect bush kit back! |
Costa Tsimiklis
DieHard
Victoria
386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 745
Reg: 07-2008
|
Cheers Cam. If there is no return satchel or note to return, then I'm assuming that the incorrect parts are not to be returned as I did request a return satchel. |
Cameron James
TryHard
NSW
Soarer GT-TL
Posts: 143
Reg: 09-2009
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Well, the front bar is on and I'm very happy with the results - much more responsive up front and more stable in the back. I have mine on the middle/soft settings.
Was thinking of going coil-overs previously but now I'm not so sure... the car now has the response I was after. Would like to go a little lower in the front but ground clearance is more important to me than aesthetics.
Before the car used to torch the inside tyre when powering out of corners due to the body roll unloading the inside tyre - not any more!!!
BTW - the un-used links from the incorrect kit replace the standard rear links perfectly - they can stay there until Whiteline sends me a pre-paid satchel to send them back  |
Costa Tsimiklis
DieHard
Victoria
386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 746
Reg: 07-2008
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Lol cam, bonus!
Amazing how much of a difference it has made hey?! Did you have a go at the hard setting? It's pretty stable through corners and everything is just tight, no body roll and very smooth even on poor tyres.
The benefit of running swaybars with coilovers is that you can choose 2-3kg lighter spring rates and back off the damping without compromising the cornering of the street or in the hills. This means a better handling car and more streetable due to the lighter spring rates. |
Cameron James
TryHard
NSW
Soarer GT-TL
Posts: 148
Reg: 09-2009
|
Costa, I will probably try out the harder settings over the next week - will definately crank them up a notch on the next cruise (if its not pissing down rain) but for the daily drive I am really happy with the current settings. |
Thanh Nguyen
Tinkerer
VIC
TT
Posts: 62
Reg: 01-2006
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Definitely be down for this one, too bad I missed out the first GB.
Current GB List:
1. Tim Ross (front + rear)
2. Murray Lund (Front + Rear)
3. Thanh Nguyen (Front + Rear) 3175
4.
5.
Etc |
Matthew Tai
TryHard
NSW
JZZ31
Posts: 321
Reg: 07-2005
|
I'm in!
Current GB List:
1. Tim Ross (front + rear)
2. Murray Lund (Front + Rear)
3. Thanh Nguyen (Front + Rear) 3175
4. Matthew Tai (Front + Rear) 2193
5.
Etc |
Lynden Phillips
TryHard
ACT
Soarer UZZ31
Posts: 120
Reg: 05-2006
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Me Too,
Current GB List:
1. Tim Ross (front + rear)
2. Murray Lund (Front + Rear)
3. Thanh Nguyen (Front + Rear) 3175
4. Matthew Tai (Front + Rear) 2193
5.Lynden Phillips (Front + Rear) 2617
Etc |
Costa Tsimiklis
DieHard
Victoria
386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 747
Reg: 07-2008
|
Ok Guys, I will go ahead since we have 5+ guys ready to go! 
I will keep this open for this round till the 31st July 2010 (end of this month). So there is a week left from Sunday to get on the list for this round and get the swaybars delivered ASAP
In the mean time, please forward $520 for the sway bars, front/rear which includes delivery into the following account details:
Bank: Commonwealth Bank
Name: Costa Tsimiklis
BSB: 063 106
Acct: 1028 0429
Amount: $520 Delivered
When: Please Pay $520 ASAP so we can get funds
cleared by Friday and I can order and pay on Monday 1st August.
Delivery ETA is approx 5-8 weeks to your door. Whiteline are doing another order at the start of August so we need to get on board this container so we can get the goods delivered to you ASAP!
I will also TRIPLE CHECK that the correct bars are packed and links are included to avoid any problems after shipping!
Super Excite! |
James Buchan
DieHard
Vic
V8
Posts: 607
Reg: 10-2008
|
I don't have the funds for this at the moment but will do in the next three to four months. Costa will you be able to source me some around then mate? |
Costa Tsimiklis
DieHard
Victoria
386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 753
Reg: 07-2008
|
Yep I will keep on running the GB for 4-5 sets each time to turn them over quickly so it does not drag on. |
Matthew Tai
TryHard
NSW
JZZ31
Posts: 323
Reg: 07-2005
|
payment sent |
Tim Ross
Goo Roo
Qld
1J + GT35-82R
Posts: 1993
Reg: 09-2007
|
Fcuk, that was quicker than I expected... I was assuming it might be a few more weeks away (and back in my budget by that stage)... ummm... I'll see what I can scratch together, but I owe people money so I doubt I can get in on this for the next few weeks at the least.
Sorry guys, if someone wants to take my spot, feel free. I'll go in the next one
Otherwise, I'll try get it together as soon as I can.
Apologies again |
Costa Tsimiklis
DieHard
Victoria
386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 759
Reg: 07-2008
|
Hey Tim,
No need to give up your spot, if you can make a payment of $100 a week then you will be OK for meeting the delivery time and ETA. Please let me know if this is acceptable so I can make arrangements.
Matthew, thanks for the transfer, your payment has cleared.
Me Too,
Current GB List:
1. Tim Ross (front + rear)
2. Murray Lund (Front + Rear)
3. Thanh Nguyen (Front + Rear) 3175
4. Matthew Tai (Front + Rear) 2193 PAID IN FULL
5.Lynden Phillips (Front + Rear) 2617 |
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