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Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 1182 Reg: 07-2008
| Hey Guys, Well production has now gone GOLD! I am making a batch run of these suspension items as we speak and they are offered here for only $750 a whole set, delivered Australia Wide! Retail will be around $1000 for the set so get a big discount and save $250 in the process! Refresher of what's this all about? http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/30604/327798.html?1285371691 Pricing: Set Price that Includes Front Subframe Mounts Rear Subframe Mounts - Supra style (backwards compatible with soarer) Rear Diff Mounts Front Diff Mounts Total: $750 Delivered to your door GB Price! Individual Pricing when buying part of this GB (You can buy one pair of bushes as below if you want to!) Front Subframe Mounts - $220 Delivered Rear Subframe Mounts - Supra style (backwards compatible with soarer) $220 Delivered Rear Diff Mounts - $150 Delivered Front Diff Mounts - $220 Delivered Item Pics:
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Full Coverage: http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/30604/327798.html?1285371691 Minimum of 7 full sets required, with 2 for me, so only 5 sets extra! 1. Costa Tsimiklis - Full Set 2. Costa Tsimiklis - Full Set 3. .. 4. ... etc Please put your name down and the exact bush that you are after or a full set! These are in preliminary production at the moment with delivery to be around 1 month from the close of the GB. I am also running this on Supra Forums soon as I know that those guys want some of this Good stuff |
Warren Moore
DieHard Victoria JZZ31 N/A
Posts: 838 Reg: 01-2010
| so for noobs like me who don't even know what axel tramp is, can you explain a little? is it similar to body roll? and would having these make the ride any stiffer over bumps etc? |
Aaron Casey
Goo Roo nsw '94 jzz30 gttl, 2 mini's one supercharged
Posts: 2537 Reg: 08-2005
| axle tramp is basically when you are taking off quickly and spinning the wheels or doing a burnout you get a big vibration the wheels bounce while they are spinning lol |
Phil Gibson
Goo Roo WA '91 UZZ30, '91 manual UZZ31 track bunky, '94 blk/blk UZZ31
Posts: 1773 Reg: 07-2005
| 1. Costa Tsimiklis - Full Set 2. Costa Tsimiklis - Full Set 3. Phil Gibson - rear subframe (will the Soarer ARB "U" brackets fit to these?) |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 1185 Reg: 07-2008
| Hi Phil, these are Supra style rear mounts, you will need a Supra swaybar and supra mounts if you want to upgrade to the supra setup. If not, you can use the standard soarer swaybar no problem and just mount it the factory position. If you can upgrade, the supra setup is a better setup as the arm is shorter and it is mounted to the subframe instead of the boot floor sheet metal. Warren, Axel tramp is a really fscked up wheel bounce that happens when you loose traction. IT can happen to stock powered cars or aftermarket cars. You can definitely feel it when you have an LSD as the whole rear end bounces up and down instead of gripping and going forward. Axel Tramp can bend arms, de-bead tyres and destroy wheels/tyres and suspension components as well as hurt performance and safety. These bushes fix this problem that is inherit on all multi-link irs setups, by securely mounting the subframe to the chassis. |
Antonio Hunt
TryHard NSW TT
Posts: 335 Reg: 11-2006
| Hi Costa, so with the benefit of reducing axel tramp what would be the down fall of running this kind of setup, if any? Cheers |
Scott Wilkes
Goo Roo Tasmania 92 TT Factory Manual, 70 HG GTS Monaro
Posts: 1886 Reg: 10-2008
| NVH will be increased and harshness, im running solid rear bushes in my cradle and diff, its a fair bit noisier and you feel the bumps alot more than with the rubber. |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 1197 Reg: 07-2008
| Yep you will get a bit more road noise coming through, nothing a stereo or some extra sound deadening can't tune out. You can buy stick on dynamat style deadening to cover the rear set section that will isolate most of the noise for around $100 or so. The benefits for my applications and opinion outweigh the increase in NVH. Axel tramp has already killed one expensive set of tyres at the drag strip by breaking the inner seal bead rendering the tyre useless. In addition, it will break your diff and can be really dangerous in applications where you loose traction either on the drift circuit or in the street in the dry/wet. If you want your soarer to handle well, you need these parts - plain and simple I've got adjustable coilovers, urethane bushes all around, adjustable arms and sway bars and this is the intermediate step until I fabricate custom lower and upper control arms, ikeya style to get my ride handling on rails. These are for Supra JZA80 as well as Soarer JZZ3* UZZ3* |
Phil Gibson
Goo Roo WA '91 UZZ30, '91 manual UZZ31 track bunky, '94 blk/blk UZZ31
Posts: 1775 Reg: 07-2005
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Costa Tsimiklis wrote on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 11:23 pm:Hi Phil, these are Supra style rear mounts, you will need a Supra swaybar and supra mounts if you want to upgrade to the supra setup. If not, you can use the standard soarer swaybar no problem and just mount it the factory position. If you can upgrade, the supra setup is a better setup as the arm is shorter and it is mounted to the subframe instead of the boot floor sheet metal.
Cheers Costa, i have a set of Titan bars on the way so just wanted to know if i can use the Soarer "U" brackets in conjunction with your rear mount or whether i have to get a pair of Supra ones |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094
Posts: 1215 Reg: 07-2008
| Hm I would say that they could be compatible from a mount/bolt pattern point of view, but the urethane component may not be compatible with the mount as the shape could be different. EPC has different part numbers for each one: Soarer: 48824-50010 Supra: 48832-14050 Cost is around $20 each if you were to buy new from Toyota according to the EPC. |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1267 Reg: 07-2008
| Current List: 1. Costa Tsimiklis - Full Set 2. Costa Tsimiklis - Full Set 3. Phil Gibson - rear subframe 4. Warren Moore - Full Set |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1374 Reg: 07-2008
| Got the bushes in production, just waiting on the rear subframe mount w/swaybar attachment to be done, as it is the most complicated. Probably going for a GOLD anodized finish for that extra wank factor. Peeps can spray them black for stealth if they want |
Adam Johnson
Tinkerer qld GT-T 330rwkw GT3540R
Posts: 28 Reg: 05-2009
| i will probably be keen on a set, is it hard to remove old bushes? can you run a soarer and supra sway bay at the same time? i doubt it but why not ask lol.. got car back from tune paint finally driveable and spun the wheels the jumped everywhere.will tein ss's and whiteline sways make a difference coz im about to install them? |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1388 Reg: 07-2008
| Hey Adam, Suspension and Swaybars will not stop axel tramp unfortunately - it is a fundamental problem with the bushes in the factory setup. You can run the aftermarket rear subframe bushes and keep your soarer swaybar - but for best results, the supra swaybar is stiffer due to it being mounted on the subframe. |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1414 Reg: 07-2008
| All bushes will be done in a week and ready for sale. Color will be a gold anodize finish for that extra bling bling. |
Adrian McGuire
TryHard Queensland soarer 2.5 turbo
Posts: 127 Reg: 12-2010
| costa, is there mounting holes in the soarer subframe to do a straight swap over of the supra swaybar mounts? or do you need to drill and tap holes to fit? |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1419 Reg: 07-2008
| The rear bushes have tapped holes for those that want to run a Supra Swaybar on a Soarer for extra performance. Straight Swap - and backwards compatible with soarer and supra swaybars as required. |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1440 Reg: 07-2008
| Production Finished, waiting for delivery |
Phil Gibson
Goo Roo WA '91 UZZ30, '91 manual UZZ31 track bunky, '94 blk/blk UZZ31
Posts: 1825 Reg: 07-2005
| and.....? |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1673 Reg: 07-2008
| I'm told they should be here this week! It's been a slow haul, but getting there in the end. I've fully funded the production, so there's around 12 sets ready to go once in stock at the GB prices for those that want to jump on. mmm traction |
Phil Gibson
Goo Roo WA '91 UZZ30, '91 manual UZZ31 track bunky, '94 blk/blk UZZ31
Posts: 1842 Reg: 07-2005
| in the nick of time too, im about to start work on teh rear end of the track car this weekend! |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1674 Reg: 07-2008
| Yeah Buddy! |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1687 Reg: 07-2008
| Ok I have received the wrong parts/boxes. looks like there was a mixup at the docks or at the supplier. I'll be sorting this out ASAP. Not Happy JAN. |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1698 Reg: 07-2008
| Ok mini update, I should have these available late next week. Just waiting on confirmation from the forwarder. Epic freight fsckup ! |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1701 Reg: 07-2008
| Goods are in stock and ready for delivery guys! I'll try get some pics up ASAP |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1702 Reg: 07-2008
| Hey Guys, I have a new product that I designed and manufactured along side this project or those that want a compromise and easy install. It will assist with eliminating the axle tramp by compressing the factory Subframe bushes instead of completely replacing them. This set is $220 delivered for a limited time and featured below I have sets available for individual purchase and GB discount purchase. Set Price that Includes Front Subframe Mounts Rear Subframe Mounts - Supra style (backwards compatible with soarer) Rear Diff Mounts Front Diff Mounts Total: $750 Delivered to your door GB Price! Individual Pricing when buying part of this GB (You can buy one pair of bushes as below if you want to!) Front Subframe Mounts - $220 Delivered Rear Subframe Mounts - Supra style (backwards compatible with soarer) $220 Delivered Rear Diff Mounts - $150 Delivered Front Diff Mounts - $220 Delivered Pictures: Total Rear Set (Discounted for a Limited Time) - $750 Delivered
Rear Subframe Mounts - Supra style (backwards compatible with soarer) $220 Delivered
Rear Diff Mounts - $150 Delivered
Front Subframe Mounts - $220 Delivered
Front Diff Mounts - $220 Delivered
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New Product that's not listed here. This is a Street version that is easy to install! No bushes are required to be removed and you can do this in your drive way with basic tools. This locks the Front Subframe mounts and locks the Rear Subframe mounts by compressing the factory bushes and providing support to the factory bushes. This is the best compromise for street duties to eliminate axle tramp. I am working on a Street solution for the diff mountings as well, should be ready and in stock in around 2-3 months. Set price: $220 Delivered
If you're interested, please reply here or email me at drift.shop.australia@gmail.com I'll be installing these on my car on the weekend |
Roger Menso
Tinkerer Qld Soarer (2JZ-GE)
Posts: 10 Reg: 05-2011
| I'm interested in the rear Supra style subframe mounts & the new street compressed subframe mounts. |
Adrian McGuire
TryHard Queensland soarer 2.5 turbo
Posts: 387 Reg: 12-2010
| costa, do the rear diff mounts need to be pressed in the same as the factory ones? |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1705 Reg: 07-2008
| Roger: Please email drift.shop.australia@gmail.com.au to order with your decision. Adrian - The rear diff mounts are welded in for maximum effect (as in the OP pics). |
Adrian McGuire
TryHard Queensland soarer 2.5 turbo
Posts: 389 Reg: 12-2010
| what sort of metal are they made from? |
Roger Menso
Tinkerer Qld Soarer (2JZ-GE)
Posts: 11 Reg: 05-2011
| Email sent Coata. |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1706 Reg: 07-2008
| Aluminium is 6061-T6 with GOLD hard anodize finish. Steel - Mild Steel for weld-ability. I'll reply to emails after 7pm. Thanks |
Cameron Cuddihy
Tinkerer North Queensland UZZ31 GT-L V8
Posts: 93 Reg: 11-2006
| Hey Costa, wanna sell the boot mat in the photo's? |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1707 Reg: 07-2008
| Cameron: Nope. My puppy seems to love it too much. She loves everything to do with cars as she practically grew up in a living room full of ever changing car parts lol. |
Cameron Cuddihy
Tinkerer North Queensland UZZ31 GT-L V8
Posts: 94 Reg: 11-2006
| No worries mate, I understand, my dogs are very well looked after also. Nice looking parts by the way, how much difference would they make on a UZZ31 or UZZ32? |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1709 Reg: 07-2008
| Not too clued up on the UZZ32 yet as I don't own one so I can't test fit. Main factor is nearly zero axle tramp and the rear wheels/subframe are properly attached to the chassis for increased handling and traction when cornering |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1710 Reg: 07-2008
| Sorry guys, I made a mistake on the street spec version. It is front diff mounts to subframe and rear subframe. IM designing front subframe and rear Saud street versions now. |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1711 Reg: 07-2008
| Mini update. I installed the Solid rear subframe bushes without an issue today. Took around 1-1.5hrs and was 100% bolt on - no dramas or cutting or anything. My machinist made them spot on! Easy DIY install as well. As far as noise goes, NO noticeable increase in road noise at all and the rear end did feel stiffer in the corners. I'm going to install the front street spec diff mounts when I change the diff over as I've sold it to Chris Ryan and then I'll take more pics and report back. Jump.on.it! |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1716 Reg: 07-2008
| Here's some install pics from last night! Diff Bushes:
Rear Subframe Bushes:
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Matt Peters
Tinkerer NSW soarer tt
Posts: 41 Reg: 02-2011
| Are these still available? |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1757 Reg: 07-2008
| Yep I have a few sets left. I'm maintaining the GB price of $750 for a set until sold out |
Yang Gao
Tinkerer Western Australia Soarer UZZ31 V8
Posts: 64 Reg: 05-2011
| How many left? Got a RAC skidpan coming up, and if i notice bad tramping i might be interested in a set. These are ok for UZZ31 yeah? Any difference if i have a W58 Manual conversion? |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1758 Reg: 07-2008
| I've got around 5 complete sets left and some individual pairs outside of a set. You will notice bad tramping in most soarers without these mods, wet or dry, stock or modified when you manage to loose enough traction - especially if you have an LSD. |
Yang Gao
Tinkerer Western Australia Soarer UZZ31 V8
Posts: 66 Reg: 05-2011
| I will let personal experience decide for me ahaha. Cheers anyway buddy, btw seatbelts arrived all good just havn't installed yet, no time T.T. Hard job? Might shoot you a PM if i ??? when it comes to installing it. |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo Victoria 386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 1759 Reg: 07-2008
| Hi Yang, I recommend a mechanic to install the seat belt if you're not sure about what you're doing, as it is a safety item. Thanks. |