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Clayton Carlyle
TryHard NSW v8 soarer twin turbo
Posts: 110 Reg: 04-2009
| Yep, she's fixed. No more smoke & not a drop of oil coming through the compressor housing. What a relief. |
Clayton Carlyle
TryHard NSW v8 soarer twin turbo
Posts: 111 Reg: 04-2009
| I also need some advice on installing my rising rate FPR. Should I put this on the return line only? Also I'm not sure whether to keep the two standard regulators, or to delete them.
So I've still got to install one more electric fan (just for track use), and the rrfpr, then it's straight back to the tuner. On a bad note, the reverse gear is only working once the car is hot and I think the box is on its way out. It might make it very hard to tune as the gear changes are a bit random ATM. The pressure is much stronger but the tuner will obviously set the gears up through the Wolf V500. Already sourcing parts for manual T56 conversion. |
Allan Langford
TryHard Vic UZZ31
Posts: 350 Reg: 05-2010
| why do you need another fuel reg when you have an aftermarket ecu and big injectors??? stock should be fine unless you see fuel pressure getting to high due to huge fuel pumps! I still don't get why people do manual conversions on these cars, auto's are cheap and strong when built and don't kill diffs and clutches |
Clayton Carlyle
TryHard NSW v8 soarer twin turbo
Posts: 112 Reg: 04-2009
| Allen I also have another walbro in tank pump to go in later which will feed a surge tank & two more external pumps. I didn't spend thousands of dollars on big Garrett turbos, external gates & standalone ECU to settle for a 12psi tune. A simple 2nd hand $3000.00 super-charger kit could have done the job. I will be building a forged block soon, & over time I would like to see 7-800rwhp. As for the Auto, if the car was for drag racing then a built auto would be nice, or even a daily. But my intensions for this car is circuit racing. Yes my sequence of mods are upside-down, but couldn't help doing the engine 1st. |
Paul Mainey
TryHard NSW Twin Turbo V8
Posts: 194 Reg: 06-2006
| Congratulations Clayton. I'm still building my forged motor. You only need the aftermarket fpr on the return. Keep an eye on the fuel pressure during tune. A rising rate fpr will only mask a struggling fuel system. I'm running two bosch pumps with a surge tank and still have my concerns. A T56 is definately a good option. If i hadn't put so much into my r 154 setup i would definately go that way. I probably wouldn't go the 35's like me of you are going to use it for circuit. The 30's are a good match maybe look at going a larger rear or look into the gtx series. I don't know much about them but i'm sure someone on here does. Looking forward to seeing your results and power curve. |
Clayton Carlyle
TryHard NSW v8 soarer twin turbo
Posts: 115 Reg: 04-2009
| Thanks Paul, I'd love to see a thread of your car on here soon ha. I'm def making more progress on this than with the David Grab Auto Couture issue, which I know we're in the same boat. I might fly down there if we get his address. |
Paul Mainey
TryHard NSW Twin Turbo V8
Posts: 195 Reg: 06-2006
| Yeah, tell me about it. I'm working in melbourne for the next week and contemplated hiring a ute and doing road trip from here. I'll put a bit of a thread once i start assembling the forged motor and actually have something to show. |
Allan Langford
TryHard Vic UZZ31
Posts: 352 Reg: 05-2010
| If you have a standalone ecu you can PWM the fuel pumps so they don't make full pressure until needed, sort of academic seeing you already have the shiney red FPR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxCyXH1sZ4M auto 1UZ turbo race car take a lot of $$$ to make a t56 paddle shift ;) don't get me wrong loving your build so far just interested in your reasoning |
Clayton Carlyle
TryHard NSW v8 soarer twin turbo
Posts: 116 Reg: 04-2009
| Allan, I wouldn't expect anything less from you. I'm alot easier debate than Damian Ware(supra brakes). If you don't get feedback on the decisions one makes then you would never know if you are getting the best setup at the end of the day. I am not a mechanic. This car has not seen a shop until the tuner (Phil) had a look 2 days ago. All work is done in my garage. ALL my info to build this car is off this site + HPI magazine + other web sites. My point is if I hadn't read all the debating posts on this site from people like you, then I wouldn't know how to build a car. So thanks for the input. It's a pity you're not in with a certain group buy. |
Clayton Carlyle
TryHard NSW v8 soarer twin turbo
Posts: 117 Reg: 04-2009
| Getting a noisy tapping sound in the engine. Sounds like maybe left bank tappets/shims/buckets. Or Big end bearings. Has anyone ever heard of worn big end bearings in a 1uz?? |
Allan Langford
TryHard Vic UZZ31
Posts: 353 Reg: 05-2010
| more likely if one injector was screwed another one was half screwed and leaned a cyl out maybe cooked a valve |
Damien Smith
DieHard NSW Twin Turbo Manual UZZ31
Posts: 827 Reg: 07-2005
| How long was the engine sitting without running? Can get a stuck valve if it was sitting for a while. More likely than big end bearings at least. |
Damian Ware
Goo Roo Victoria UZZ32
Posts: 2017 Reg: 10-2005
| 1uz often do have noise heads. The link below made be of help. http://www.planetsoarer.com/camshafts/camshaft4.html I suggest you look at running full syn oil instead of GTX3, GTX3 probably wont take the heat even with a cooler. |
Paul Mainey
TryHard NSW Twin Turbo V8
Posts: 217 Reg: 06-2006
| So what ended up being the issue Clayton. Did you get it sorted? |
Clayton Carlyle
TryHard NSW v8 soarer twin turbo
Posts: 133 Reg: 04-2009
| found the problem after the car started missing.
The coil lead was not pushed down onto the rotor housing. The tick was the arcing between the loose connection, which eventually melted away the plastic. Now the engine is silent. How's your build going Paul? Have you sorted the head bolts? |
Clayton Carlyle
TryHard NSW v8 soarer twin turbo
Posts: 134 Reg: 04-2009
| Here's an update. General maintenance has kept me busy. 1st I had to change the gearbox. Not an easy job to do in the garage, took me the good part of 2 days. The original box had no reverse and wouldn't change threw the gears correctly in drive, basically stuffed. for now I have put in another A340.
this is the busted one. Also rebuilt the power steering pump as it was leaking into the alternator. pretty cheap and easy job to do, but had to remove a turbo to get it in. I used the rebuilt tutorial of planet soarer.
again this is the old one. It was making the engine bay very dirty. I've fitted 2 10 inch thermo fans to the radiator as well as retaining the hydro fan that is in front of the radiator. |
Clayton Carlyle
TryHard NSW v8 soarer twin turbo
Posts: 135 Reg: 04-2009
| Next up is the oil cooler. It will be slotted in between the intercooler and the hydraulic fan.
I also had the rear guards rolled in prep for future wider wheels,
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Paul Mainey
TryHard NSW Twin Turbo V8
Posts: 219 Reg: 06-2006
| Good to see the beast lives on. I got the head studs sorted. Using a 1/2" stud with a bit of machining here and there to make them work. Hopefully I will start assembling the engine this weekend. Haven't done much more though after a bike accident took me out of action for a while and I'm still nursing a broken collar bone that is taking it's sweet arse time to heal. I've been riding the wave of the high $AUD and getting my custom intake sorted with a few parts, so that will be the next welding project. Really hoping to get it all done by August, but doubtful. |
Clayton Carlyle
TryHard NSW v8 soarer twin turbo
Posts: 136 Reg: 04-2009
| Custom intake sounds exciting. Will it be dual throttle body like the hypertune one?? Any hints?? Gosta watch those pocket rockets man, to dangerous for my liking. I'm not far from you Paul, I'd be interested in seeing your car when finished. Maybe we could put them down the strip together. I've also bought another 1uz to put forged internals into soon. Then turn up the wick. |
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo WA UZZ31
Posts: 3398 Reg: 09-2007
| Clay, you going to build a forged one for me too?? |
Paul Mainey
TryHard NSW Twin Turbo V8
Posts: 220 Reg: 06-2006
| It'll be one big single intake with either a 100mm throttle or possibly the twin 60mm mustang throttle i have in the cupboard. Spoke to the machinist yesterday and found out that he hasn't even looked at my engine since i dropped it off 3 months ago. slack on my part too for not chasing it up. So no assembly this weekend. Once it's done, we'll have to catch up for sure. Not sure how it will go down the strip. We'll see how the box and clutch hold up. I'll keep my original 1uz as a spare after i swap the forged one in. Definitely easier doing it that way. Did you get your on a dyno and get some figures. I would love to see the power curve with the 30's. |
Clayton Carlyle
TryHard NSW v8 soarer twin turbo
Posts: 137 Reg: 04-2009
| Ali, how's your turbo mods going? No disrespect to the supercharger guys but I'm so glad I went all out. Once you have a taste of power you just want to see what the 1uz is capable of. Just one more step of building a forged engine and all the hardware is done. I do believe 850-900rwhp is reachable. Paul, still no Dyno or any tune yet. I am still running the Wolf V500 start up tune. I have altered the injector size and timing slightly but it needs a tune. Fuel consumption is through the roof. BUT it's seriously fast. Two 60mm throttle bodies would be impressive but the 100 would easily be enough. Are you fabricating the plenum yourself?? |
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo WA UZZ31
Posts: 3401 Reg: 09-2007
| What turbo mods Clay! turbos cost money, money which is not quite in my pocket yet haha. Paul: get something like Ed's supra, 8 throttle bodies |
Paul Mainey
TryHard NSW Twin Turbo V8
Posts: 221 Reg: 06-2006
| It's funny you say that Ali. I do have eight throttles but it's not worth the effort with the turbos. If it was NA like Ed's definitely. Clayton, I will fabricate the plenum myself although i haven't welded aluminium for a long time so i'll see how i go. The twin 60mm is a nice bit of gear but it has an oval entry which will be a pain in the arse to transition to. |
Peter Howden
DieHard WA TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 638 Reg: 01-2008
| Clayton, How's this work going ? From what I've seen so far, it looks schmic .. love your welding work |
Clayton Carlyle
TryHard NSW v8 soarer twin turbo
Posts: 139 Reg: 04-2009
| Peter it's going well. I use the car as my daily driver but STILL haven't had it tuned, mainly because I took a holiday overseas and it still needs work to go on the Dyno. I'm still to fit the oil cooler and now a seal plug in the back of the right bank head is leaking quite badly and I'm afraid the engine will run out of water/coolant if it's going full tit all day on the dyno. I've also started fitting the auto couture kit. I hope to see some Soarer guys at WTAC Superlap at Eastern Creek on 5& 6 August. Anybody going?? |
Clayton Carlyle
TryHard NSW v8 soarer twin turbo
Posts: 160 Reg: 04-2009
| Been slack with the updates. destroyed another auto, had enough of the those power draining, weak pieces of junk. so it's T56 time.
While it's off the road I decided to attempt to paint the AC kit. It came out good so now I'm really risking it now and am going to try to paint the car. I am very scared, but nothing could look worse than the peeling shabby aged original paint. |
Clayton Carlyle
TryHard NSW v8 soarer twin turbo
Posts: 161 Reg: 04-2009
| not easy rolling guards either,
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Orton Marchant
TryHard NSW Blacktown JZZ31
Posts: 142 Reg: 01-2011
| keep up with the updates interesting reads |
Paul Mainey
TryHard NSW Twin Turbo V8
Posts: 232 Reg: 06-2006
| Great to see you progressing on your build Clayton. I love seeing all this get done in an underground carpark too. The lure of the 6 speed is getting to me too. Have you got a clutch setup to suit T56. I'm really thinking of selling the R154. |
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo WA UZZ31
Posts: 3705 Reg: 09-2007
| this is turning out to be epic. any videos? dyno run? 1/4s? |
Clayton Carlyle
TryHard NSW v8 soarer twin turbo
Posts: 164 Reg: 04-2009
| Paul, I am having the clutch & flywheel made up from Direct clutch in Qld. It's a twin plate & is only $2,100.00 for T/P clutch, flywheel & throw-out bearing. Neil Griffith does a whole package as you might know but if you do some homework you can shave a good 1k+ off his kit. Not to say his is bad, it's an awesome no brained package with instructions for the cross-member and drive-shaft. I just couldn't afford his. I purchased a TRD 2way LSD over a month ago from Mark Bryant & he still hasn't sent it and stopped answering his phone or replying to txts & emails. If anyone has his address in Hobart I would greatly appreciate it. I also have some vented front guards coming. Excited!! How's yours going Paul?? |
Paul Mainey
TryHard NSW Twin Turbo V8
Posts: 233 Reg: 06-2006
| I read in another topic about your trd diff issue. That really sucks. Especially after the while ac kit sh!t. Neil does do a good kit. That's who i actually got the r154 adapter and original advice on the conversion from. I have a mate with access to a cnc machine so i'm toying with the idea of getting the cad file from ed and going the 6060 box. Would you believe i only picked my engine up this week. Over 8 months it took to get it back. What a nightmare. I should be working back at home from next week till the end of the year so hopefully i'll have a few photos to post up soon. Keep up the good work and keep us all posted. I'll do the same. |
Joshua White
DieHard Qld Supercharged V8 Soarer - Soon to be Twin Turbo V8 Soarer
Posts: 609 Reg: 11-2006
| Hey Clayton, did you manage to do your TT setup and keep the Aircon? Don't happen to have a mock up of the manifolds at all? |
Clayton Carlyle
TryHard NSW v8 soarer twin turbo
Posts: 176 Reg: 04-2009
| Hey Josh, I did keep aircon yes, but I haven't got a jig for the manifolds. I built them with the engine in the car. They are not easy to make and unfortunately I'm not willing to build anymore. Tampa might be your best bet if Neil doesn't want to do it. How is it going? |
Joshua White
DieHard Qld Supercharged V8 Soarer - Soon to be Twin Turbo V8 Soarer
Posts: 610 Reg: 11-2006
| Its still going but Neil seems to be having difficulties making the manifolds. What power did yours make? |
Joshua White
DieHard Qld Supercharged V8 Soarer - Soon to be Twin Turbo V8 Soarer
Posts: 611 Reg: 11-2006
| Also whats this Tampa??? |
Clayton Carlyle
TryHard NSW v8 soarer twin turbo
Posts: 177 Reg: 04-2009
| Ttc performance in Tampa, Florida. My suspicion is the manifolds that Neil made for Damien Smith's car might have been modified upside-down standard cast manifolds. From memory I think baby hulk has the same. I could be wrong. There's alot more fabrication than just the manifolds. I have an aluminum welder as well as a Mig. The intercooler piping is a mission as well. There is so much to fiddle with to get twin turbos to fit. Damien's car was a race car with no air-con, fan, suspension pump etc. Which gives you alot more room to play with. I still haven't had the car Dyno tuned. Now I'm putting a new engine in as the original has always over-heated (blown head gasket since I bought it). With the forged engine + some Cnc ported heads in the future the car is capable of 900 to 1000hp. But so far it's made approx 300rwkw guesstimate. I've now decided to ditch aircon & go full time attack. Neil is fully capable of building your car. |
Clayton Carlyle
TryHard NSW v8 soarer twin turbo
Posts: 178 Reg: 04-2009
| Sorry premature sent. Neil is capable of building your car but it'll probably take him a bit longer. Don't give up tho Josh. You've already got a forged engine & stand- alone management. You're nearly there & it'll be DAMN fast. They pull differently to a six. Mine has ZERO lag & just doesn't stop pulling. Hence it spat out 2 auto's in a month. |
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo WA UZZ31
Posts: 3769 Reg: 09-2007
| TTC is a massive rip off not to mention they are known to be dodgy as hell |