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Andrew McKellar
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Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 06:37 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wakefield Park, a 1.6-second improvement this time out. Did a 1:08.6625 in Qualifying. Heading in the right direction, but would probably have done better without the engine dramas we suffered all weekend.
Ben Lipman
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Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 07:43 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Without going back through your thread, you're still running a pretty much standard motor on a tune aren't you? That would mean the only Soarer that has gone faster had bulk more power as I think it was Damien's turbo V8 (somewhere around the 1:07 mark)
Aaron Casey
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Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 08:26 pm, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Damien was a 1:06 wasnt it? Hey andrew shoot me your email address ill send you a couple of pick i took mate
Clayton Carlyle
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Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 01:48 pm, by:  Clayton Carlyle (Clayton) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is the 1.08 with full slicks?
Andrew McKellar
DieHard
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Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 06:17 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Clayton Carlyle wrote on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 01:48 pm:

Is the 1.08 with full slicks?


Yes mate, will only be running with slicks on it now.

Ben Lipman wrote on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 07:43 pm:

you're still running a pretty much standard motor on a tune aren't you?


Standard motor, yes. A tune? Not really. No more power/torque than the original engine in the original car.

Aaron, PM sent with email address.
Michael McKellar
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Mini

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Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 07:11 pm, by:  Michael McKellar (Mickmini) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Andrew McKellar wrote on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 06:17 pm:

Standard motor, yes. A tune? Not really. No more power/torque than the original engine in the original car.




In fact, given that it is old and worn out, been in a dust storm, probably less than it had in the factory, open exhaust notwithstanding.

So even more impressive time i reckon.

cheers
michael
Andrew McKellar
DieHard
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Friday, August 17, 2012 - 07:41 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

True, a respectable time all things considered. But I reckon we'll go faster, even without more horsepower.
Andrew McKellar
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Monday, September 24, 2012 - 08:10 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eastern Creek (now Sydney Motorsport Park) North Circuit: 1:11.4108
Spencer Cameron
TryHard
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JZZ30

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Friday, November 30, 2012 - 12:58 pm, by:  Spencer Cameron (Switchio) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wakefield: 1:11.4 ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-JWBMuE0S0

See the video description for details.

The new cameras handy. I'm not exactly happy with the times but at least I can see where it is I can make improvements (of the driver variety). Finally got my rotors for my brake upgrade the day after this.

Frustrating..
Andrew McKellar
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Friday, November 30, 2012 - 03:08 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That was great to watch. Good video - what type of camera is it?

Stay in 3rd for the fish hook - you'll carry enough speed into it and will have enough pull to come out of it and save yourself two gear changes. Once you get the brake upgrade it'll be even easier
Spencer Cameron
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JZZ30

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Friday, November 30, 2012 - 03:49 pm, by:  Spencer Cameron (Switchio) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, its a GoPro Hero3. Just got it the week before.


Andrew McKellar wrote on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 03:08 pm:

Stay in 3rd for the fish hook




That was actually on my list of things to try for that trackday, along with entering turn 3 in 4th and shifting to 3rd after. Unfortunately, I forgot my list for that first session and it rained for the rest of them. I'm not to confident I'm going to see an improvement with that corner though. I still havent got around to getting my car tuned to suit the bigger turbo, so I get quite a bit of lag. Makes carrying high gears really hard to get right.
Ben Lipman
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Monday, November 18, 2013 - 05:19 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mallala 1:18.4 on Toyo R888, internally stock motor (but 300rwkw), and stock driveline. Very much lightened with backyard aero and off the shelf suspension mods (2.5deg camber front and 1deg rear).

Car would have gone at least half to three quarters of a second faster with another session or two, but unfortunately something broke in the top of the motor ending my day after two sessions.
Ben Lipman
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Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 10:46 am, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wakefield Park
1:08.940

Car now has 300rwkw, full cage, Lightweight body panels, Supra 4 pot brakes (old pads), on old Toyo R888 semis.

According to the data the car should have been doing mid 1:07 laps all day, but the driver needs to catch up.
Andrew McKellar
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V8 Soarer Sports Sedan

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Monday, July 07, 2014 - 03:21 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ben Lipman wrote on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 10:46 am:

1:08.940



Hmmm, that's awfully close. I need to pull my finger out to stay ahead of you.
Paul Kalie
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TT

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Monday, July 07, 2014 - 06:57 pm, by:  Paul Kalie (Ajzs) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1:08.66 Vs 1:08.94

Its good to see how 2 rather different builds and different setups can be so close.

Would love to see all this added into a spreadsheet :-).
Andrew McKellar
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Tuesday, July 15, 2014 - 05:11 am, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Paul Kalie wrote on Monday, July 07, 2014 - 06:57 pm:

Its good to see how 2 rather different builds and different setups can be so close




It is interesting hey Paul. We need to get both cars at the track on the same day and do comparison times (no racing against each other of course, as that would be naughty).

And then we should swap cars and see what happens.
Harry Doling
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QLD
Soarer GTT

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Friday, July 18, 2014 - 05:18 pm, by:  Harry Doling (Harryjzz30) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've slowly been tinkering with my Soarer and doing a few Lakeside track days. Might be of interest to some seeing how each mod helped.

Date: 29/11/2012
Time: 1:05.96
Mods: Stock apart from Tein S-Tech springs, 18" street tyres (Federal and Achillies)

Date: 15/05/2013
Time: 1:04.92 (-1.04s)
Mods: Tein S-Tech springs cut 20mm lower

Date: 29/06/2013
Time: 1:04.37 (-0.55s)
Mods: factory Torsen LSD

Date: 03/07/2013
Time: 1:03.79 (-0.58s)
Mods: HKS SLD

Date: 27/11/2013
Time: 1:03.07 (-0.72)
Mods: Nitto NT01 245/40x18 semis + BC coilovers (16/10kg)

Date: 07/05/2014
Time: 1:01.37 (-1.70!)
Mods: 3" exhaust, wedge adjustment

That's starting to become a pretty respectable time for a big auto barge with very limited mods. It's 1.5sec slower than my previous 180SX with 200rwkw, cage, and upgraded everything... Soarer is still a bit too taily, so might benefit from a Whiteline front swaybar or wider rear tyres next - currently 245 all round.

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Also took it to Mt Cotton Hillclimb just before I did the exhaust:

Date: 26/04/2014
Time: 49.24
Mods: Nitto NT01 semis + BC coilovers (16/10kg)

another hillclimb this weekend to see how she goes now. Class record (road reg over 2000cc) is 47.87 for reference, set by a stripped out S13 with RB20DET. So 1.37s slower is not bad for the big old soarer!
Ben Lipman
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Friday, July 18, 2014 - 07:20 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What was the weather like on the Nov day compared to the July and may dates? Curious that semis only netted 7 tenths, and an exhaust got more than double the gains.

We need to get all these track cars in one location for some fun one day.
Harry Doling
Tinkerer
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Soarer GTT

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Wednesday, July 30, 2014 - 05:08 pm, by:  Harry Doling (Harryjzz30) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't really remember the weather, but November would have been low 30s. May mid 20s. Would have helped slightly, but doesn't account for the difference.
Agree about the semis - I was not happy at all with 7/10ths when i first put them on. I was expecting alot more! But I think it just didn't have enough power to benefit from all the extra traction with the stock exhaust. The 3" exhaust transformed the car. I'd put a a good chunk of the 1.7sec it got after the exhaust down to the semis. No way it would have gone 1.7sec faster if it was still on normal street tyres.

I went back to Mt Cotton the other weekend too, and ran 48.30. Results on this page somewhere:
http://mgccq.org.au/raceresults.htm

So basically a full second off thanks to the exhaust. It's only 0.43 off the class record for Production Road Registered now. And the split times show I could have gone 0.3sec faster. I'll be back there for the next one in about a month to have another crack at it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2UlZHfuSUc

compared to my previous 180SX track car, it's 1.7sec slower at the fast flowing Lakeside track, but only 0.2sec slower at Mt Cotton. I think the auto suits the hillclimb pretty well :-)
Ben Lipman
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Wednesday, July 30, 2014 - 10:00 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is interesting- maybe the gearing also suits the Mt Cotton track better than Lakeside as well? I am not familiar with either track.
Harry Doling
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Soarer GTT

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Friday, August 01, 2014 - 07:23 pm, by:  Harry Doling (Harryjzz30) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yep, the auto's gearing works very well in the two slowest corners at Mt Cotton. Manual cars normally struggle a bit in those corners as 1st gear is a bit too short and 2nd a bit too tall. The auto loves it! 2nd gear in the auto feels a bit slow up the hills but you lose less time changing gears than a manual so probably works out pretty even up the hills.

At Lakeside the 180SX was faster, but it really should be too. 300kg lighter, more power with upgraded turbo, bigger injectors, ecu, cage, all sorts of adjustable suspension arms, GTR brakes, flared rear guards to fit in wider rubber etc etc. Soarer is basically stock by comparison! But some wider rear tyres, FMIC and shift kit it might get close...
Ben Lipman
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Saturday, August 09, 2014 - 08:06 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wakefield park today. Same car as last time, with a more conservative wheel alignment and the corner weights sorted.

1:07.57.

Mighty happy with that effort in my 1369kg porker.
Justin Hughes
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V8 Soarer

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Harry Doling
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Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 08:14 am, by:  Harry Doling (Harryjzz30) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hillclimb yesterday. New PB and class record 47.81 :-) The record was held by an S13 with RB20 conversion, upgraded turbo etc. Soarer's not bad for a car with just coilovers and exhaust. I love this car!

The only change from last time was tyre softener. Seems to work! My 2nd run was 0.05sec slower than my best last time, and the 3rd run was my fastest, basically half a second improvment. Will have to wait for the split times they mail out during the week to confirm, but I think I went a bit faster in the 1st sector on later runs but stuffed up in other places trying a bit too hard. So there might be a bit more to come yet.

I was going to re-treat the tyres again last night and have another crack today, but found a totally buggered a lower control arm bush when I jacked it up - about an inch of movement there! It was fine that morning when I put the semis on. So I'm missing out on the 2nd day of the competition :-(
Aaron Casey
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NSW
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Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 11:44 am, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dont know if anyone else has done it. But marulan driver training centre on friday got a best of 45.7 and mostly averaged mid 46s as first time out was trying heaps of different lines to see what the car liked.
Car is a uzz31 with a centre exhaust back and air filter. Manual r154, Caged with coilovers swaybars and wilwood front brakes.
excited cause I can finally post in here haha

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