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Ben Lipman
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Thursday, October 08, 2015 - 08:35 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Andrew McKellar wrote on Wednesday, October 07, 2015 - 08:00 pm:

Torsen diff, which I have to say absolutely transformed the car and made it MUCH more responsive into, through and out of corners. No wonder Ben has been getting so much speed out of his car




People keep telling me I am wrong. I reckon the Torsen is a great diff for a circuit car.

Great leaps forward. Quite scared for my WP lap time now...when are you going back???

Dry sump is a big spend. I can buy three engines for one dry sump system, so I couldn't justify it. I still haven't installed the accusump either...
Andrew McKellar
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V8 Soarer Sports Sedan

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Wednesday, November 04, 2015 - 03:00 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A few more shots from Sydney Motorsport Park at Round 5.


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Ben Lipman
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Wednesday, November 04, 2015 - 05:01 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some nice pics there, less those last two. Did you post up a lap time? I may have missed it. I know you were 3.5 seconds a lap faster - which is huge!
Andrew McKellar
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Wednesday, November 04, 2015 - 10:12 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are there 2 Ben Lipman's? Because the other one read my post in the Post Up Your Lap Times thread and added a leaders board, just for me. Your medication must be really good
Ben Lipman
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Thursday, November 05, 2015 - 05:51 am, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh. I thought that was for your previous lap time at SMP. It has been a big week. Every night this week I have been in the shed working on the Soarer - the red one though this time. Race car is in the other shed still untouched from the july outing.
Andrew McKellar
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Tuesday, December 08, 2015 - 01:57 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Finally got around to stripping the engine down. Lots of damage in the bottom end, but fortunately nothing wrong with the heads or any components in the top end. The head gaskets were completely intact, so no issues there. No evidence of running lean at all - no burnt pistons, no holes in them, nothing. Even the No. 1 piston, which is the destroyed one, was intact at the top, complete with rings in perfect condition:


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The bottom half of that piston tells a different story though:


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And here is its matching conrod:


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Piston No. 2 also copped some damage, as did the big end:


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So the 1-2 crank journal is well and truly buggered:


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But also, main bearing No. 2 had a spin, damaging the block and the crank shaft:


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So if anyone owns a boat, I have a free anchor for you.

On top of all this, when I pulled it off the engine the oil pump was seized. This, I think, is more a result of the issue than the cause of it. It is probable it has some bearing material in there jamming it up or something. I'm going to pull it apart to check later.

Current theory is a combination of oil getting too hot and oil surge caused the problem, both of which can be addressed by use of a dry sump system.
Mike Beck
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Tuesday, December 08, 2015 - 07:17 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bugger!!

Ah well at least such experience will bring you back to the track with an improved setup.

Keep up the good work. PS do you do hot laps? :-)
Michael McKellar
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Mini

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Tuesday, December 08, 2015 - 07:52 pm, by:  Michael McKellar (Mickmini) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Mike Beck wrote on Tuesday, December 08, 2015 - 07:17 pm:

PS do you do hot laps?




Believe me, every lap is a hot lap for him
Andrew McKellar
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Tuesday, December 08, 2015 - 09:17 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Michael McKellar wrote on Tuesday, December 08, 2015 - 07:52 pm:

Believe me, every lap is a hot lap for him



I'm not sure how to take that...

Mike Beck wrote on Tuesday, December 08, 2015 - 07:17 pm:

PS do you do hot laps?



Well, if you were to fly all the way from NZ Mike, and pay the appropriate fee, I'm sure we could arrange strapping you into a passenger seat. I'm pretty sure Ben and Aaron would be up for that too - what could be more fun than scaring the sh!t out of someone...
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Wednesday, December 09, 2015 - 09:48 am, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hehe, touche!!
Aaron Casey
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'94 2jz JZZ30 gttl, '93 UZZ31 track, VT, 2x Leyland Mini's

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Thursday, December 10, 2015 - 12:39 pm, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Haha I havent got a passenger seat yet so mo passenger sessions for me yet.
With the torsen did you find it would keep unloading through hard corners? I think i may be popping a tyre off the ground through the fish hook and the car starts spinning the inside tyre... shouldnt happen with my power level and tyres... might need to try stiffen it up further somehow..
Ben Lipman
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Thursday, December 10, 2015 - 05:19 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you are lifting the rear tyre Aaron, then the car might already be too stiff at the rear, too soft at the front, or your spring/shock combo does not have enough droop to allow the tyre to remain in contact with the road.
Ben Lipman
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Thursday, December 10, 2015 - 07:36 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are you going to buy another 1UZ and bolt your good bits onto it? Probably get away with it for $500 ish I reckon.

Dry sump could run to $5000 though unfortunately, which is why I haven't got one. I do have a accusump that I am yet to install.
Andrew McKellar
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Friday, December 11, 2015 - 06:14 am, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ben Lipman wrote on Thursday, December 10, 2015 - 05:19 pm:

If you are lifting the rear tyre Aaron, then the car might already be too stiff at the rear, too soft at the front




I agree with Ben mate.


Ben Lipman wrote on Thursday, December 10, 2015 - 07:36 pm:

Are you going to buy another 1UZ and bolt your good bits onto it?




I already have a spare engine, and an extra crank shaft. So in theory that bit is easy. Yep, the dry sump setup would be expensive, but worth it in the long run. If I'm going to do that though, I'm thinking it'll also probably be worth spending an extra $1400 or so on stronger rods and forged pistons. As I've run out of money this year it is all an "on paper" exercise at the moment.
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Tuesday, March 01, 2016 - 08:10 am, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I should have posted this up a while ago, but just didn't get to it yet...

Official autopsy results are in for the engine failure. The good news is, as it turns out, the issue was not one of oil feed.

The bad news is, the bottom end is still rooted.

According to the metallurgist engineer fellow, brought in by AGM Engineering to analyse what had happened (which I very much appreciate), the root cause of the problem was the engine overheating at some point.

Keen observers will remember that at Wakefield Park (the previous round to the engine blow-up) we had a problem with the thermostat, which saw the engine get hot enough to make the Motec drop it into limp mode.

The metallurgist is convinced the overheating caused detonation, prior to the Motec shutting things down. That detonation caused enough of a bang prior to pistons/rods being in the correct position in the cylinder, thereby causing a shock through the big ends and bashing the bearings about.

Once the bearings were out of shape, it was only a matter of time before they gave out by sticking to the crank or spinning. As we broke the diff in the following race that weekend, the engine didn't have enough time to destroy itself.

But it had the required time at SMP once we had the new diff installed.

Ben, I don't know if you ever diagnosed the fault with your bearing failure, but this info may assist.

What the guy also said was that whilst the 1UZ is a strong engine that can handle heaps of power through the standard bottom end, that really only counts for putting it on a dyno or running it down the quarter mile. For the kind of stuff I've been doing to it, we really need to move to stronger rods and forged pistons.

So that's the next logical step. The heads and everything from the top end of the engine are undamaged, so we just need a new bottom end with forged internals to make it go again. And a new oil pump, as the old one did suffer from a bit of jamming up with bearing material.

But...
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Tuesday, March 01, 2016 - 12:47 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is time to sell the Soarer, give up racing and move onto a new project. It has been fun, but you gotta know when to quit. So...

For Sale

Note: This car is highly modified for race/track use and cannot be road registered.

1991 Z30 Soarer, being sold currently as a rolling chassis, including everything except the forged internals for the bottom end. Therefore includes:

CAMS log-booked 3D Sports Sedan floor pan car. Full welded rollover protection structure (roll cage) with side intrusion bars driver & passenger side, diagonal & horizontal braces in main hoop, dash bar, diagonal roof brace and diagonal braces in rear stays. All floor seams stitch welded.

Sparco Pro-2000 race seat and 6-point race harness.

Custom aluminium dash board with VDO tachometer and fuel pressure, oil pressure, oil temperature, water temperature and voltmeter gauges, shift warning lights and oil pressure warning light.

Custom switch panel adjacent to driver’s seat including starter & ignition, remote battery/engine shut off and remote fire extinguisher control.

Custom, solid mounted steering column fitted with Sparco removable steering wheel.

Sparco on-board fire suppression system with nozzles in engine bay, cabin and fuel tank/boot area.

Custom Tilton pedal box fully adjustable for position and with adjustable brake bias.

Custom Brembo brake calliper package front and rear, including front ventilated 320mm x 32mm DBA rotors with custom hats and rear 300mm x 16mm DBA ventilated rotors.

Heavy duty D2 coil-over package front and rear (suits Bilstein damper inserts), Whiteline heavy duty front sway bar, strut tower brace and new polyurethane bushes throughout. Rear subframe solidly mounted, with adjustable camber and toe arms. New adjustable rear lower control arms part of spares package but not installed.

RaceOnUSA modified fibreglass wide-body kit including all guards and rear bumper/facia. Custom modified front spoiler/splitter with undertray. Custom fibreglass bonnet and boot lid. Carbon fibre doors currently being fitted.

Hoerr Racing carbon fibre GT-3 rear wing with gurney flap and custom aluminium mounts. Aluminium rear diffuser.

Glass windscreen with electric demister and demister fan. Polycarbonate side and rear windows.

Foam-filled 50-litre fuel cell with custom surge tank, braided fuel lines, Bosch 044 lift and main pumps and adjustable fuel pressure regulator.
2 sets of 17” BBS wheels. 1 set fitted with Dunlop (rear) and Yokohama (front) wets, only used once. Other set fitted with slicks, used twice. Spare slick tyres also included.

Holinger R6 6-speed gearbox with custom adapter to suit 1UZ. Custom tail shaft to suit Holinger. 4.083:1 Torsen LSD diff. Spare 3.93:1 welded diff included.

Engine parts included:

Heads and all internal & external attachments from the top end of the race engine. Includes individual throttle bodies with manifolds, Kelford 207F cam shafts (these are the biggest available without switching to under bucket shims), custom adjustable cam sprockets, Kelford heavy duty valve springs, reconditioned 440cc injectors. Coil-on-plug packs included, with custom wiring loom mated to Motec loom. Motec M48 ECU and full loom also included. Spare Motec loom for standard 1UZ engine also included.

This engine was 415hp with no modifications to the bottom end.

Custom flywheel and AP Racing triple plate clutch included.

Includes ceramic coated exhaust headers and complete custom exhaust system (side exits).

All cooling pipes, etc. including new water pump and new thermostat are included. Gated/baffled sump pan included, as is custom timing belt tensioner and all braided oil & fuel lines (+ remote oil filter setup).

All standard bottom end parts including block, crank shaft, rods and pistons (already assembled with ACL race clearance bearings) included. Spare crank shaft also yours. Everything else needed to rebuild the engine is there – crank & cam sensors, plastic covers, starter motor, reconditioned power steering pump, reconditioned alternator (x 2), etc.

Coolers – car is fitted with engine oil cooler, gearbox oil cooler (runs through Tilton electric pump), power steering fluid cooler and Gates custom radiator.

Custom tilting car trailer is also included if you want it (includes frame for mounting front spoiler when car in transit).

Lots of spare parts, including:

Fibreglass moulds for most parts of the car – bonnet, boot, guards, roof.
Crank shaft.
Brand new adjustable rear lower control arms.
Motec wiring loom for standard 1UZ.
Under-bucket shims and buckets (32).
Just about every engine spare part imaginable.
Spare aluminium mounts and plates for front spoiler, rear wing.

I am probably prepared to sell off a couple things as separate items, but whoever buys the car has first choice on whether they want them as part of the deal.

Over $60,000 spent on the car, but it won’t be selling for nearly that much.

Only people seriously interested in purchasing the car need contact me please. PM me and send me your mobile number and I will call you to discuss a price for the whole lot.

Separately the Holinger gearbox is $10,000. The trailer alone is $4,500. Both items remain first choice for the new Soarer owner.

Please check throughout archived pages on this thread for photos and other details.

Cheers,

Andrew
Ben Lipman
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Tuesday, March 01, 2016 - 07:05 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let me know if you want me to post this/link the thread on facebook.

I will chuck it up on my page as a link to the forum. If you want it posted in the groups, you will need some form of contact details (email or phone) and a price.

Sad to see this sold. I doubt the next owner will be as much of a top bloke as you have been through the years.
Andrew McKellar
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Tuesday, March 01, 2016 - 08:29 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm hoping another top bloke (or top chick) from this forum will buy it, sort of keep it in the family. Discount for SC members.

Also, I will remain a top bloke even after the car sells.

But yeah, a link on your facebook might help, thanks.
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UZZ30 UZZ31

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Sunday, April 17, 2016 - 05:23 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any interest for the sale yet?

It is sad to see this great thread end.
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Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - 12:19 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Had one enquiry from a guy up Newcastle way, seeking more details, but he's gone cold. No others yet.

And who says the thread has to end????
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Wednesday, April 20, 2016 - 02:38 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Andrew McKellar wrote on Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - 12:19 pm:

And who says the thread has to end????



Now you are teasing!
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Wednesday, April 20, 2016 - 12:20 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As long as you'll have me, I'm happy to keep the thread going. The next adventure is not a Soarer, but I feel kinda comfortable amongst the Soarer crowd.

Meanwhile I do need to clear the garage out. Offers considered on the Soarer. It'll be a bargain for whoever buys it...
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Thursday, May 05, 2016 - 06:56 pm, by:  Andrew McKellar (Toymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't know why I hadn't put these up before:



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Sunday, May 08, 2016 - 02:54 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did it nearly bog getting off the line in the first one?

I am surprised how few gear changes you can get away with.

You can hear the diff getting unhappy about 2/3 through, was it audible for you in the cab?
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Sunday, May 08, 2016 - 04:34 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Easy to see why you slid off in the 2nd one, the track is so steeply banked! That should have made the left hand turns easy though.

Interesting chase with the yellow car, lose so much in the straights, but then able to get it all back through the twisty bits. Well done!

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