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Michael Long
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victoria
v8

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Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 07:22 pm, by:  Michael Long (Longy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Since I've had my car the central locking has never worked. At first it didnt really consern me however now im getting a little paranoid about accidently leaving it open. Also i believe its a related problem but the auto locking function doesnt work at the magic 24km/h. You can see the switches trying to flip over but they just dont get there, and they continue to try untill you flip them over. now i used the search and found that nobody has had the same problems. However there was mention of a door locking motor so i am suspect of this. Any help or ideas are welcome, i wont have be able to use the net for a week so if you have any questions i will get back to you then. thanks again and sorry about the essay.
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8

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Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 09:33 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There have been some suggestions, eg the motor, and also some rubber stops that get sticky so things don't work as they should.

When I use my key, I can feel as if something is moving over a ridge, then it moves smoothly, suggesting that something has worn out of shape.

It would be good if this issue got investigated properly, as more people are starting to have issues with the electric locks.

Does anyone that is clever have a lock they can study to see where wear might be occurring?
Mark Paddick
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ACT
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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 04:27 am, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Investigate what?
It is the motor. If it don't work properly then replace it.
They are cheap like model car motors.
Replacement is the only real cure.
The door lock position switches can come adrift too so the door control module doesn't know that the lock has closed and keeps trying anyway.
Peter Nitschke
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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 05:23 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark, I am wondering if some of the metal links have worn causing it to feel rough as I turn the key. Any problem there would also affect the motors ability to move the lock mechanism most likely?
Vinh Bui
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NSW
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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 05:27 am, by:  Vinh Bui (Hyudsjk) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have the same problem in my V8, but only on the driver's side. Doesn't really bother me since I just have to flick it with my hand. What does bother me is the fact that the remote locking doesn't work, so I have to use the key to lock it.

How much are these motors Mark? Toyota would obviously supply them so a part number would be great. (This is your cue Don)
Rob Andreacchio
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Victoria
Supercharged VT Calais & 1991 JZZ30

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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 06:48 am, by:  Rob Andreacchio (Reepa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

occasionally (usually when its cold) either door wont unlock via remote, but is fine using the key... same thing here?
Mark Paddick
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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 07:06 am, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes. If caught early the motors can be cleaned and lubed but the effort isn't really worth it.

Worn links and cable and stuff will make it worse but a new motor fixes them.

I don't know a great deal about the links and fiiting of these things. I won't do them. Even my own car was done by my son.
In fact I don't work on any cars except my own anymore. Removing and fitting stuff can be done by any monkey and I won't waste my time doing it.
Rob Andreacchio
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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 08:09 am, by:  Rob Andreacchio (Reepa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where can we get the motors from Mark? and any idea on cost?
David Vaughan
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ACT
V8 Ltd manual

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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 08:12 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This has happened to me within the last week. For a couple of days the driver's door locking became erratic then it stopped. Spraying lithium grease into the lock area did not help. Shortly I will get around to searching for a tutorial on removing the door panel without breaking anything.

Mark, by "model car motor" are you talking about the classic 540, such as is used in hand held vacuum cleaners, or did you have something else in mind?

On another topic by association, if you have one of those dust-busters and want it to work better, get along to a model car racing club and buy a second hand battery pack (4 or 6 cells) from one of the top drivers. They will sell packs which no longer win races but otherwise are in great shape, although they may still not be cheap. Make sure you buy one compatible with your charger (NiCd or NIMh). Use these to replace the existing battery pack in your dust-buster. For extra oomph, make sure you put in one more cell than you took out. Now your vacuum will really scream and suck.
Mark Paddick
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ACT
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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 08:36 am, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The old electric car racing sets had a very similar motor. About 1.5 to 2 inches long and about an inch diameter with flattened sides. Shaft about 1/8". Some were 3V and some 12v with battery powered stuff being 3v. Brushes were always the main problem and worn commutators.
I'm not sure if one of these will work but they should be cheap enough to try.
Then again, Toyota can surprise with parts pricing.
So far I haven't had to get a new one.
I've diagnosed a lot of them but won't change 'em for any amount of beer, money or sex....well maybe..
Don Bagnall
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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 04:05 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Vinh Bui wrote on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 05:27 am:

(This is your cue Don)



Looking NOW!
Don Bagnall
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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 05:24 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've searched EVERYWHERE in the friggin EPC and cannot find a damn thing that looks remotely like what Mark is talking about.............I've searched under "Motor", "Solenoid", "Switch" & "Relay"
Mark Paddick
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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 05:28 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lock?
Door control motor and courtesy switch assembly.
Don Bagnall
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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 06:53 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nope. Still no luck. All I found was this thingo???




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Neil Griffiths
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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 07:48 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I still reckon its the ceramic capacitor thats on the motor
Peter Nitschke
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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 07:49 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don, a relay is a motor of sorts :-) Feed it power and it does something.
Mark Paddick
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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 08:25 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ceramic caps do have a bit of a habit of going short circuit but I don't think so...I'll give ya a supply of them, but I am not fitting them
If you ever played with those model motors you will remember that it's always the brushes and/or commutator worn and once you get that working the bearings up.
Personally I'd want to stick a new motor in after going through all the hassle to get the old one out.

It's in the door lock assembly so maybe you gotta buy the whole thing. That sounds more like the Toyota we all know and love.
Mark Paddick
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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 09:20 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don, you're not even on the right page. I can't see a door there anywhere!
Bill Bogiatzis
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TT

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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 10:15 pm, by:  Bill Bogiatzis (Boggie23) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was told it was the motor but it is better to replace the whole lock (as in all the internal bits but you use the same key).

And second hand locks dont go for too much but I dont know how long they will last for.
Bill Bogiatzis
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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 10:21 pm, by:  Bill Bogiatzis (Boggie23) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

69030-24060
Can you look that up?
Richard Baird
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Monday, November 27, 2006 - 11:37 pm, by:  Richard Baird (Richo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

motors are in the door lock assys.....
Jeff Smith
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Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 02:51 pm, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My drivers side door motor is shot too,The only way to lock it now is the key.Central locking on the passenger side still works but not the drivers side.It happen'd about a month ago.What is the price on a new motor?
Don Bagnall
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Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 05:17 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Bill Bogiatzis wrote on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 10:21 pm:

69030-24060
Can you look that up?



Yup............that comes up as: Lock Assy. Front Door. RH Fits ALL 30 series Soarers from go to woh!


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Motor NOT available seperately
Damian Ware
TryHard
Victoria
UZZ32

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Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 05:26 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a complete unit for the drivers door if you are interested.

Send me a PM if you want it and we can sort out the details.
Dan McColl
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Victoria
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Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 07:55 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hahahaha. Mine work. :-)
Mark Paddick
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Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 09:54 am, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jeez, and I was only joking that Toyota may have done that!

If someone can send me an old motor (I threw all the old stuff away not long ago) or preferably the whole thing I'll see what I can find to fix it.
Lynton Scale
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Vic
UZZ32 Active V8

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Wednesday, September 27, 2017 - 11:30 am, by:  Lynton Scale (Lscale) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry to revive an old topic.
Does anyone have the number for the LH assembly?
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Anand Pillay
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V8

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Wednesday, September 27, 2017 - 12:27 pm, by:  Anand Pillay (Fknfstv8) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe the (RH) stands for Right hand side and (LH) stands for lefthand side - referring to the the part numbers in the diagram.

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I am using this website for the part numbers:
http://www.japan-parts.eu/toyota/jp/1992/soarer/uzz30-acpvk/4_321140_006_/body/6703_front-door-lock-handle#69320
Lynton Scale
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Wednesday, September 27, 2017 - 02:01 pm, by:  Lynton Scale (Lscale) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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