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Scott Gates
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 Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 06:41 pm, by:  Scott Gates (Scotty_001) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Hey quick question.

I went looking for a 6u8 50v cap for this fix.

And all i could find was one that was bipolar... does this matter? Or do they have to have polarity a certain way?

Jaycar, tandy and dick smith all had the same ones.

Looking to change over my lights after new year when i have free time.
Luke Gomer
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 Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 06:56 pm, by:  Luke Gomer (Luke) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I removed the Jaycar part number as it was wrong see http://www.soarer.tv/EMV_Repair/Flashertut.jpg

A 'normal' electrolytic will do - not a bi-polar.

Take the print off into the shop and SHOW them the picture of the cap mounted - then they can see it has a line denoting polarity.
Scott Gates
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 Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 07:10 pm, by:  Scott Gates (Scotty_001) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Yeah i thought so...

No place that i went to had any.

Would anyone here have any spare or access to get them?
Matt Petersen
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 Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 07:34 am, by:  Matt Petersen (Mattmannz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I went to Jaycar and Dick Smiths (two main electronics places in NZ) and neither had 50v caps in the correct rating.

I ended up going with a 6.8UF 35V Tantulum cap that cost me 40c I think. Did the fix yesterday and it's pretty good. I hope the 35V is enough to withstand the back emf, time will tell though. I couldn't find 50V caps anywhere.

Changing the cap to increase the pause between flashes also has the affect of reducing the flash length slightly and also altering the hazard flash rate, it's still perfectly acceptable though.

Here is a link I found on ClubLexus.com showing a modded unit in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNDQYwMqhIc

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Mike Beck
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 Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 09:28 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I did something similar to my flasher relay module, I used the one Luke specified in his fix guide.

I actually think I had the same issue too Matt where there were no 50v ones, and went for a 35v cap instead.

Been many months now and still fine.
Mike Dobkin
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 Monday, January 12, 2009 - 09:38 am, by:  Mike Dobkin (Razman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Has anyone successfully used LEDs in the rear clusters and still got the stock flasher unit to work?
Scott Gates
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 Monday, January 12, 2009 - 04:30 pm, by:  Scott Gates (Scotty_001) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I used a 6u8 100v cap, when i couldn't find the 50v ones. I saw the 35v but didn't want to go lower. Only changed them on the weekend and all good so far.
Tim Ross
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 Monday, August 10, 2009 - 07:33 pm, by:  Tim Ross (Retox) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
This may help for people wanting a better idea of running parallel capacitors

Let me know if it needs any revisions


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Again, as per Luke Gomers disclaimer, use at your own risk :-)
Evan Kaio
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 Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 03:56 pm, by:  Evan Kaio (Knave) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I'm sure I used 50v caps, I've probably got some left over.
Andrew Brown
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 Friday, February 08, 2013 - 12:02 am, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
anyone know if the capacitor mod fixes the flash rate for those altezza brake lights that look like the supra brake lights? there will be led globes in these as well

any help is very much appreciated!


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Tom Richards
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 Friday, February 08, 2013 - 07:14 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
andrew yes i added a 6.8 in parallel with the 3.3
Andrew Brown
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 Friday, February 08, 2013 - 08:10 am, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I take it the 3.3 is the original capacitor? And that you have the same lights with LED's in them yeah? Thanks for the help!
Tom Richards
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 Friday, February 08, 2013 - 12:48 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
yes
Andrew Brown
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 Friday, February 08, 2013 - 01:40 pm, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
one more question: how did you fix your rear light warning? just using resistors or did you adapt the lamp fail module? cheers!
Tom Richards
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 Friday, February 08, 2013 - 04:04 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
i cannot remember what i did re the tail lights.


I may have just shorted across the lamp unit as it really isnt required. LEDS have an extremely long life, so take the easy solution.


http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/9739/199692.html?1343827406
Andrew Brown
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 Friday, February 08, 2013 - 06:24 pm, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
ah okay, so cut the purple wire ;) thanks for all your help, i am now sufficiently prepared to go through with the install :-)
Tom Richards
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 Friday, February 08, 2013 - 08:31 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
jolted my memory , that is what i did, cut the purple wire
Andrew Brown
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 Friday, February 15, 2013 - 11:02 pm, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
well i did the capacitor mod and now i have some weird flashing haha..

i get short flash - long pause - short flash etc..

any ideas on how this is fixed? cause i'm completely stumped
Matt Newman
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 Saturday, February 16, 2013 - 09:52 am, by:  Matt Newman (Soarersrock) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
did you remove the old capacitor and replace with a 6.8? or did you add the 6.8 to the existing one?
Andrew Brown
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 Saturday, February 16, 2013 - 10:05 am, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I tried both, and they both do the same thing just a little slower with the two in parallel
Tom Richards
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 Saturday, February 16, 2013 - 01:05 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
andrew , another memory jolt, my altezza tail lights are globe not LED, sorry for the mis onfo on what i had done. Havent needed a LED solution.
Andrew Brown
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 Saturday, February 16, 2013 - 01:14 pm, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Funny you mention that Tom as I've stuck to original globes as well haha! trying out some new polar caps today (got nonpolar the first time) and also retaining my lamp out module with a simple resistor mod
Tom Richards
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 Saturday, February 16, 2013 - 02:59 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
andrew i used these

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/120608063809?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1403wt _742
Andrew Brown
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 Saturday, February 16, 2013 - 09:48 pm, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
okay so now my indicator system is all filament bulbs, i still have the weird timing (short flash, long pause) i plugged the original light loom back in to test and apart from being slower flash rate due to the new capacitor it is perfect timing between on and off. so after all this i believe its a resistance issue, is there some other mod for the flasher relays resistors or something?

only difference between this new indicator system and the last is 2 less 12v 21w bulbs
Tom Richards
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 Sunday, February 17, 2013 - 07:31 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
with the mod, it is normal i think for the flash to be slightly shorter than the pause. To get a 1:1 the timer cct would need further mods. the cct would need to be traced out to work out how do this.
Andrew Brown
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 Sunday, February 17, 2013 - 03:12 pm, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
i figured as much, but i believe i have now gotten it to a more than sensible speed and it isn't as annoying as i thought it would be

also.. don't know if this is new to anybody but my lamp fail module was grey not red or orange like people seem to be saying

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