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Chris Anderson
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Vic
Soarer / SC400 UZZ31 4.0 V8

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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 06:17 pm, by:  Chris Anderson (Piston_broke) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi guys i've got a problem getting my key to work in the ignition barrel. It doesn't want to go all the way in so i cant even turn the key to start it. At the moment my car is stuck at an audio installers shop (just had an install of an aftermarket head unit under the emv screen). I am lost as to what to do so any advice would be greatly appreciated. ((its a v8 toyota soarer 91model))}
Daniel Blomfield
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South Island
Soarer Limited V8 UZZ31

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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 06:43 pm, by:  Daniel Blomfield (Soarer_nz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

try putting some powdered graphite in the key hole to lubricate the lock this has worked fro me on other worn ignition barrels don't know if it will work on the soarer but worth a shot powdered graphite can be purchased from most hardware stores and usually comes with an applicator put a small amount in the lock and push the key in and out a couple of times it should loosen up almost immediately
Daniel Blackham
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Victoria
31V8 X 2

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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 06:47 pm, by:  Daniel Blackham (Daniel24) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Was it working ok before Chris? If your key has been cut wrong or has been damaged on the spline then you will have trouble inserting it.
Chris Anderson
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Vic
Soarer / SC400 UZZ31 4.0 V8

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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 07:38 pm, by:  Chris Anderson (Piston_broke) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah key was working fine before. Its the key which came with the car, and it does look a bit worn but in 2 years only once has it ever done this, ages ago... then I just took the key out, tried it again a couple of times with a bit of a wiggle and it worked.

The car is still at the audio installers seeing as I cant start the car. They managed to operate the key with no problems to drive the car into their workshop and only had the problem after they had finished installing the audio unit in place of the old cassette deck.

They told me of the problem when I arrived to collect the car, and (unfortunately from what I have since read) one of the cures they tried was a spray of CRC or WD40. Despite half an hour of jiggling and trying, the key goes almost all the way into the barrel but just not enough to be able to switch it on. I tried the boot and doors and the key still operates them with no problem. However the glove box would not unlock.

I was thinking maybe there is something they might have inadvertently done in the audio install that had perhaps reset or altered something to cause the problem.

They have an auto elec coming to look at it in the morning. I will also mention the graphite powder idea to them.

Thanks for the responses. Any other thoughts please keep them coming.

Cheers
Chris.
Matthew Weaver
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer TT

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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 09:23 pm, by:  Matthew Weaver (Spinna) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey man maybe the ball bearing has fell if the auto cant find out whats wrong go ring up a mechanic and they can have a look for you
Peter Nitschke
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South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 10:50 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Graphite powder plus WD40 might be a problem. Think "paste". :-(
Chris Anderson
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Vic
Soarer / SC400 UZZ31 4.0 V8

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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 11:02 pm, by:  Chris Anderson (Piston_broke) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the warning Peter..... I was a bit worried about that concept myself when they mentioned they had tried a squirt of WD to fix it.

I was thinking maybe to give the lock a blast of compressed air to try and evacuate the WD prior to trying graphite powder.

My thoughts are getting desperate now!
Daniel Blomfield
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South Island
Soarer Limited V8 UZZ31

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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 02:32 am, by:  Daniel Blomfield (Soarer_nz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yup plenty of compressed air !
Matthew Sharpe
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North Island
JZZ31

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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 05:23 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yup, give it a good squirt of air, it might also dislodge something inside that might be stopping the key.
Tom Richards
TryHard
nsw
V8

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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 08:18 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

do not use wd 40. use a silcon spray, you should have some to keep the windows running smoothly as well.

also a new key will reduce the problem.
David Ward
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Victoria
3.0 TT & 2.5 TT

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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 08:54 am, by:  David Ward (Djwtoyota) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Suggest whip the barrel out and as Tom said use a silicon spray that locksmiths use. Invert the lock and see if you can flush the blockage out with the liquid spray. If you don't know what you're doing get the audio installers to take it out and take it to a locksmith competent with auto locks. Is there any chance they may have tried to use a wrong key in the ignition?
Daniel Arndt
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Vic
UZZ31 LTD

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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 09:05 am, by:  Daniel Arndt (Darndt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone else find it strange when we take our cars to these places, like mechanics, panel beaters etc they often come back with something else broken/damaged?
What the hell is going on here?
Chris I just hope they claim responsibility for this and pay up the cost to fix.

Mine is going in for a windscreen tomorrow, what are the chances it comes back with a flat tyre?
Allan Langford
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Vic
UZZ31

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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 11:37 am, by:  Allan Langford (Allan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

98% of the automotive industry are hacks that have no idea what so ever...

Make sure your windscreen is properly sealed and not a crappy one out of china that makes other cars look like something out of the hall of mirrors!

as for the key get a locksmith not a mechanic!
Evan Kaio
DieHard
Beautiful sunny good @ rugby 'Canes' country
'91 UZZ31. 92 TT

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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 05:15 pm, by:  Evan Kaio (Knave) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Had this key issue when I first got my Soarer.
The problem was that the end of the key had become rounded after 15 years of use.
Got a new key cut, ends square, all good.
Chris Anderson
Tinkerer
Vic
Soarer / SC400 UZZ31 4.0 V8

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Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 08:00 pm, by:  Chris Anderson (Piston_broke) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey guys many thanks to your help !!! I ended up getting a new key cut at the "
www.locallocksmiths.com.au" shop in Glenferrie Rd, Malvern(03 9509 0442 ask for Julian). I got their replacement key called a TOY40 cut on the spot within 5 minutes. Its given all the locks on the car that seemless new feeling again so i highly recomend anyone with a worn out key to get a new one and avoid being in this situation.
Daniel Blackham
TryHard
Victoria
31V8 X 2

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Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 08:05 pm, by:  Daniel Blackham (Daniel24) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Chris, how much did they charge if you dont mind me asking? If you like you can pm me as I need 4 keys cut :/
Chris Anderson
Tinkerer
Vic
Soarer / SC400 UZZ31 4.0 V8

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Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 08:09 pm, by:  Chris Anderson (Piston_broke) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As for the ignition barrel i ended up blasting it with lots of compressed air, then i squirted in some graphite and gently put the old key into the barrel. To get the key all the way in i gently tapped it in with a hammer and turned the key with a pair of pliers while another guy was holding the steering wheel to free the steering lock. Then took out the old key and now use the new key. Problem sorted!!!YAY
Chris Anderson
Tinkerer
Vic
Soarer / SC400 UZZ31 4.0 V8

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Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 08:10 pm, by:  Chris Anderson (Piston_broke) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

$38.00 PER KEY

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