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Lachie Bryce
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Wednesday, August 03, 2011 - 09:36 pm, by:  Lachie Bryce (Caboose) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey,

After headlights blowing and knowing how the factory halos are i went and bought HB4 HID kit (4300k 35w)

the globes don't fit into the housing it appears that the base of the globe (with the rubber seal) is too wide in diameter, i attempted filing down the edge to fit but still no such luck.

as it was getting late i quickly duct taped them in, had them as forward as possibly (and as flush as possible) and got lighting worse than the halos (seemed to be pointing downward.

so my question after all this is... is there something that i should have done to the globe to make it fit or is there a particular brand that does HID globes for the soarer headlamp?

cheers.
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Wednesday, August 03, 2011 - 10:02 pm, by:  James Tims (Timzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey mate,
You actually need to get the HB3 globes for the soarer they end up fitting perfectly, I recently purchased some Xenon HID's for my soarer and the HB3 9005 are the way to go. I had a friend that made the same mistake and purchased the HB4's and he ended up shaving it down until they fit into his headlights. To stop it from pointing downwards you can realign them headlights I go told the other day by my mate, there is like a really long screw coming from each headlight, if you look behind them from the bonnet looking down you can see this, and you just have to adjust that accordingly to change the position of the lights :-)
Lachie Bryce
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Wednesday, August 03, 2011 - 10:07 pm, by:  Lachie Bryce (Caboose) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cheers james, yes i saw those big screws, i didnt touch them till i got globes that actually fit, has your mate had any issues from filing it down?and how far down did he go? down to the rubber ring or did he remove it?
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Wednesday, August 03, 2011 - 11:01 pm, by:  James Tims (Timzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm still waiting for him to text me back about what he did but I'm pretty sure he just did whatever he could to get it to fit. He did mention shaving it down though. They look great right now and he's had no issues since doing it :-)
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Thursday, August 04, 2011 - 05:10 am, by:  Lachie Bryce (Caboose) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cool stuff, i guess i'll be thieving the dremmal from the old man's place then :-)

so HB3 is the soarer headlight not HB4?
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Thursday, August 04, 2011 - 08:05 am, by:  James Tims (Timzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah if your getting soarer low beam headlight and not the high beam one's the HB3 - 9005 are the way to go they fit in there perfectly. It took me 5 minutes to install mine with everything, the hardest part of installing the Xenon HID's was where to put the Ballasts are everything was connected, even that's not to hard! I got my HID kit for $70 pickup in Victoria, it's chinese but way better than the stock lights for me & definitely lights up the street, I don't even use my high beams anymore!
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Thursday, August 04, 2011 - 06:49 pm, by:  Nathan Richardson (Richtheblack) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think HB4's will fit the high beams. So just get some new globes for lows and you can buy the balasts down the track for the high beams.
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Friday, August 05, 2011 - 02:50 pm, by:  Darren Bauer (Dazmon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I ground my HB4s right down, almost level with the rubber I think. Wouldn't do it again!
Lachie Bryce
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Friday, August 05, 2011 - 03:47 pm, by:  Lachie Bryce (Caboose) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why wouldn't you do it again?
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Friday, August 05, 2011 - 08:19 pm, by:  Nathan Richardson (Richtheblack) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not worth it when you can get HB3's?
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Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 08:26 pm, by:  Matthew Smith (Alien_racing) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah hb3 is low beam and hb4 is high beam pretty sure or 9005 and 9006
Lachie Bryce
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Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 03:52 pm, by:  Lachie Bryce (Caboose) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah right o. I was more asking if it made a difference to the light quality / overall safety by filing the hb4 down. And thanks guys been a big help
Lachie Bryce
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 10:11 pm, by:  Lachie Bryce (Caboose) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok so I lucked out and got a pair of lights that are worse than the stock halogens.(didn't think that was possible but here we are)

my next question is are globe connections compatible with any ballast or are they brand specific? as i'm going to find a good pair of globes for my low beams (currently i have the passenger beam shooting left, the driver side almost non existent and black in front of me even after adjusting my headlights still i cant see anything on the road in front which made an interesting night driving home as i missed a large amount of water (and ended up half in the next lane) and a rather harsh speed bump.)
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 10:29 pm, by:  Matthew Smith (Alien_racing) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

have you got the original globes (hb3) in the low beams and did you adjust the headlights when you had them other one duct taped in as if you put both globes side by side you may notice that from the mounting base of the globe to the filament are different lengths and this is all in relation to the angle of reflection from the base of the headlight assy.

So if you have the wrong globe in its place and made to fit the beam will not be focused and therefore give you shi$house headlight range


just my 2cents anyway
Lachie Bryce
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 10:38 pm, by:  Lachie Bryce (Caboose) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks matt,

sadly not at home to check filament lengths however they are the HB4's but filed down to fit in (no more duct tape)

i'm going to get teh HB3 globes but i'm thinking a better quality from a different supplier/maker, do you know if the globes are cross compatible with ballasts or do they need the appropriate ballast for the globe? (just the ballasts i have i rather like)
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 10:55 pm, by:  Matthew Smith (Alien_racing) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the ballast will all be the same but from memory the 2 plugs are different between the globes my suggestion would be to buy another hid conversion kit to suit hb3 and buy 2 more globes to suit hb4 and just run the full set HID


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Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 11:04 am, by:  Lachie Bryce (Caboose) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ah kay cheers.

not going to put the hb4 in the high beams, these are far too feint in comparison.
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Friday, August 19, 2011 - 03:07 pm, by:  Dave van Staveren (Deveous) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Lachie, go on ebay and search item #120489692979 i just bought this kit and had it all fitted in around half hour. All plug and play only had to swap O ring from my original globes as was too tight. For under $80 too. I got HB3-9005 35w, 6000k and ya can see the difference even in day light.
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Saturday, August 20, 2011 - 06:56 am, by:  Nathan Sheehan (Soarermad1) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you can buy plus 100 hb3-4s as well, give massive light distance improvement compared to generic stuff
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Matthew Smith wrote on Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 08:26 pm:

yeah hb3 is low beam and hb4 is high beam pretty sure or 9005 and 9006




Depends on what was done for Au compliance, but standard from Japan low beam is 9005J and high 9005 (or HB3). 9005 (HB3) require slight modification on the tabs to fit into socket on low beams. I wouldn't put 9006 into 9005 space, it would mean the globe doesn't deal the hole, that's what the O-ring is for. There is 2mm difference in body diameter, it's bad enough having to Dremel the tabs.
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Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 05:06 am, by:  Drew Fryer (Trdcelica90) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

not trying to jack the thread, but I bought some 4100k 9005s for the low beams and filed off some tabs and they fit just perfectly.
I will have to adjust the headlights as best i can as they are RHD in a LHD country.. but
this is what i Find now with the new bulbs..
I'm thinking its because of the orientation of the filament?? being axial instead of horizontal ??

any ideas would be helpful. this does Not occur with the original bulbs. and forgive the bad cellphone pic this was after driving oh say 18 hours or so. lots of bugs on windshield.



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Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 11:16 am, by:  Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are several possible reasons for the "dark spot" in your coverage, Drew. I have HIDs in my car, and the coverage is not as good as the original globes (although the brightness is way better). I think HIDs are more "focussed" with less spread than halogen globes. Headlight adjustment is probably the only way you'll get better spread, but first, check that the new globes are seating properly in the holder. This can be difficult to achieve given they're designed for 9005J. Only a small amount of misalignment will translate to huge difference in output.

In the long run you're probably better off changing to SC300 headlights for safety of other road users. They should be cheap from US wreckers. Assuming the connectors, globes etc are the same! Where did you get 4100K globes from? I have 6000K and don't like the colour much.
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Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 12:48 pm, by:  Drew Fryer (Trdcelica90) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProducts/AutomotiveLighting/Products/ProductComparison/

the local automotive stores carry things like shown in above link. pick and choose what you want.
GE is another brand, and some others. but sylvania hasn't ever let me down in the past..
I just wish i could get horizontal filaments so i can just get rid of the dark spots. deal with the replacement of headlamps later.

Here theres very very few sc400's and sc300s weren't sold in canada so even Less of them. the breakers in the US have headlight assemblies, but are not as new looking as mine and well dealer price is 1000$ new. so i havn't gotten around to it yet.. But im starting to think i will by next summer because i hate this Dark Arrow.

I will play around more with the bulbs.. maybe i didnt shave enough off and arent tiwsted in all the way or are crooked like you suggest they may be..
Thanks.
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Monday, August 29, 2011 - 06:01 am, by:  Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I realised from your link that you have halogen globes, not HID, Drew, but no matter, the principle's the same. Some of you dark spot can be mitigated via headlight adjustment, I'm sure. It looks light the lef-thand light is throwing the light too far left (and I'd imagine this would irritate other road users). That's not so much of a problem here because we want to illuminate the roadside for pedestrians and animals (if you live in the bush) but you're on the other (wrong:-)) side of the road.
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Saturday, October 01, 2011 - 10:30 pm, by:  Jace Holder (Jada) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I put aftermarket halos in my Soarer piggy backed them off my parkers and the parkers stoped working the next day all the fuses are still good and the bulbs are not blown does anybody have any ideas on what could be the problem
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Saturday, March 31, 2012 - 08:08 pm, by:  Eugene Smith (Eugene) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi guys I need new Head lights mine is yellow and i think a candle would give more light. Any suggestions what to get, i saw these ones on ebay but not sure if they for RHD?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1992-1999-SC300-SC400-LED-LAMPS-HALO-RING-CHROME-CLEAR-PROJECTOR-HEADLIGH TS-/200725001939?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ebc2476d3
Can one of you guys check it and see if it is ok to bay if not what is your recommendation? Thanks
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Eugene Smith wrote on Saturday, March 31, 2012 - 08:08 pm:

Hi guys I need new Head lights mine is yellow and i think a candle would give more light. Any suggestions what to get, i saw these ones on ebay but not sure if they for RHD




I'd suggest some work with plastic polish- Meguiar's Plast-X or the like. It does wonders. I do mine every month or two, and it's a '97. There are threads here about pulling the lenses and doing the inside, if that doesn't work. The lights in the link would be for LHD SC's. Polish would be a helluva lot cheaper:-)

I might add that the postage, in common with the usual US practice, is totally ridiculous, and that H1 bulbs are a pain to use, and don't seal overly well.
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Sunday, April 01, 2012 - 10:33 am, by:  Haydn Stewart (Haydog09) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eugene I'm just about tO buy some projector headlights for my car. If you want mate I'll sell you my stock headlights mate. They are shiny and not yellow. :-)
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Mike Triggs wrote on Saturday, March 31, 2012 - 09:05 pm:

Hi guys I need new Head lights mine is yellow and i think a candle would give more light. Any suggestions what to get, i saw these ones on ebay but not sure if they for RHD




Eugene those lights are designed for LHD cars in the US which if used over here will blind traffic coming the other way... apparently some people on here have tried the US spec ones in the past and had problems with adjusting them correctly.

just use a plastic polish on your stock ones mate...they come up like new...

read this link

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/10/14.html?1098227774

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