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Joseph Kelly
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Friday, May 31, 2013 - 11:17 pm, by:  Joseph Kelly (Phenonix) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I pressed the button on my remote and nothing happened, no doors unlocking sound, no beep to show it had unlocked, no flashing light
So i opened with the key, then the alarm goes off, car will now not start, so i disconnected the battery, left it for 30 minutes but still alarm goes off.
Pressing my remote, light on remote flash's but nothing happens.

Anything familiar here to anyone?

Is it a trip to an expensive electrician to try and find the problem, any suggestions to what i can try before i do send it in?
Thanks
Liviu Velisarie
Tinkerer
Romania
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Saturday, June 01, 2013 - 07:52 am, by:  Liviu Velisarie (Greenroadster) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Joseph!
I had the same problem a year ago. My problem started when I open the car and and try it to start without the immobiliser on my ring key. The alarm went on and never wanted to start again.

I had to reset the alarm immobilisator.

They are some complicated steps.
1.Remove both contacts from battery.
2.Put on the +
3.After 30 seconds open the driver door.
4.Turn the key.
5.Put on the - on battery
6.Closed the door
7.Turn the key

....or something like that.
My electrician found that on internet :-)))

Really!

Good luck to you. I stayed with the car jammed like that for a month!
Tom Richards
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Saturday, June 01, 2013 - 08:02 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

liviu, none of the above will do anything.
Joseph Kelly
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Saturday, June 01, 2013 - 08:58 am, by:  Joseph Kelly (Phenonix) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone think it will be an easy fix, or complicated expensive fix?
I'm hoping its something simple like the remote receiver failed, but i wouldn't know where to look.
Also if it has been tripped like this could any car electrician fix it or are our cars more complicated?
Joshua Thomson
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Victoria
Soarer TT

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Saturday, June 01, 2013 - 09:00 am, by:  Joshua Thomson (Campaspeae) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Best cheapest option would be to change the battery in your remote as if it is flat or going flat it might light up but the signal may not be strong enough to unlock/immobilise the car.
Joseph Kelly
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Saturday, June 01, 2013 - 09:09 am, by:  Joseph Kelly (Phenonix) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll try that Joshua, but the battery is only a couple of weeks old, one thing the NRMA said was the alarm should still go off if the battery is disconnected, but it does not, is that a further sign of anything?
The car is miles away at work, had to get a taxi home, so any suggestions i wont be able to try immediately
Joseph Kelly
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Saturday, June 01, 2013 - 09:52 am, by:  Joseph Kelly (Phenonix) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Before i try to drop it off to an electrician is there anything specific about our cars alarms or could any electrician fix it?
Tom Richards
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V8

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Saturday, June 01, 2013 - 10:18 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

locate the alarm, under the dash or in the foot panel to the side of the accellerator. Find the brand and contact the company on how to "immobilise" it.

http://www.lextreme.com/sc92.pdf
Joshua Thomson
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Soarer TT

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Saturday, June 01, 2013 - 03:48 pm, by:  Joshua Thomson (Campaspeae) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It could be a sign of that the immobiliser itself is at fault and just like Tom said easiest thing to do is find what brand it is and see if there is a way to by pass it I guess you can say that should tell you if it's at fault. If you were nearby I would have a look for you.
Joseph Kelly
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V8

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Saturday, June 01, 2013 - 04:26 pm, by:  Joseph Kelly (Phenonix) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom, with the wiring diagram you provided how do i use this to find the alarm?
Trace it back from those wires?, but which wire, Thanks
Joseph Kelly
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Saturday, June 01, 2013 - 04:34 pm, by:  Joseph Kelly (Phenonix) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its also been suggested to me 12 quick turns of the ignition may work?
Tom Richards
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V8

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Saturday, June 01, 2013 - 07:10 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the wiring diag will not find where it is .
Common place is as i said above.

Recently mine was causing the car to stall whilst being driven. the manufacturer gave me the wiring info, and i have removed it and shorted out the required pins.
Joseph Kelly
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V8

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Sunday, June 02, 2013 - 06:39 pm, by:  Joseph Kelly (Phenonix) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not had a chance to get to the car yet, but trying to understand what i have.
If the remote i have is this one


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Does that mean my entire alarm system is an aftermarket, or is it possible to use this remote with the original security system?
Tom Richards
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Sunday, June 02, 2013 - 08:43 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

after market. have you changed the battery in the remote as some one suggested above?

you need to look for it. there will probally be a loom of black wires going to it. It could also be under the bonnet.
Joseph Kelly
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Sunday, June 02, 2013 - 09:03 pm, by:  Joseph Kelly (Phenonix) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've replaced the battery and will try it tomorrow
Vincent Chan
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v8

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Monday, June 03, 2013 - 08:42 am, by:  Vincent Chan (Vincent191) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had the same problem last week. My mechanic disconnected the battery when he re-installed my air suspension and my immobiliser started to play up just like Tom. The car started to stall and I had difficulties starting. I looked under the bonnet and can't find the immobilser unit. Now reading Tom's posting I will look under the dash. Some after market units you can turn it of with a key.

Back to my problem, my mechanic sat in the car with the thing in park and make sure all the windows, doors, boot and bonnet are firmly closed. Then press the small button on the remote to lock the doors and then press the big button to unlock all the doors and bingo (phew) the car started and has not stalled every since. Hope this works for you.

I also had a small blinking red light under the dash and after restting it when off. If you have one and it is blinking means the alarm/immobilser is on.
Tom Richards
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Monday, June 03, 2013 - 10:22 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

most alarms are 3 pt, they will switch the IG(black/yellow), starter (black/white), and fuel pump wires.


If you remove the bottom cover under the steering wheel, and get you head in there , you can see the loom coming out from the ig barrel. Find the IG and starter wires and trace them to where they are cut. You can then follow them back to the immobiliser. If the immobiliser is stuffed, you can rejoin the wires. If the fuel pump is also switched, you need to find where it is cut and rejoin it .
Joseph Kelly
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V8

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Monday, June 03, 2013 - 04:20 pm, by:  Joseph Kelly (Phenonix) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NRMA towed it into an auto electrician today, so immobiliser is now in the bin, $150.00 poorer, i would have attempted what Tom had said but did not feel comfortable trying it as it was not in my garage, thanks all or replying
Peter Nitschke
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Tuesday, June 04, 2013 - 02:22 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Soarers didn't come with either immobiliser or alarm, so all units fitted are after market and will all have different procedures and reliability levels.

This makes it difficult to diagnose unless someone has the exact same unit as you and has had similar experiences.

Removing yours was probably the best solution, but fit another one to protect your car.
Joseph Kelly
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Tuesday, June 04, 2013 - 07:00 am, by:  Joseph Kelly (Phenonix) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Peter, in the beginning i really did not understand the set up i had, i understand now, and how they function
Anyone recommend a good after market kit i could install myself?

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