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John Edler
Newbie
qld
EJJZ30 1JZ-GTE

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Reg: 09-2013

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Monday, June 30, 2014 - 08:40 am, by:  John Edler (Weekendrider) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When i fitted the pump on the original wiring the pump will only run when engine is starting then stops. So i wired the pump off a ING feed to get it to run. Is this the way it should be done or do i have a fault in the wiring. This way i don't have a low fuel cut out?.
Tom Richards
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nsw
V8

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Monday, June 30, 2014 - 09:05 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the standard wiring thru the ecu provides 12v at start up and high accelleration, but ~8v for normal running. Appears your pump will not run on 8v. Go to the diagnostics port and short B+ to FP and you will have 12v all the time to the fuel pump.
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo
WA
RSP JZZ30

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Monday, June 30, 2014 - 03:46 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You need to setup a relay mate. There are a few guides on the forum
Robert Day
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victoria
v8 & TT

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Monday, June 30, 2014 - 03:54 pm, by:  Robert Day (Lexsmaz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like your pump is obviously a high current draw pump & so will not run on the 8-9 volt range, so you could fit up a relay as has been mentioned or I would also look at fitting a different pump, I'm guessing you fitted a Walbro pump ?? I have found them to draw a load more amps than a equivalent bosch pump ..
John Edler
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qld
EJJZ30 1JZ-GTE

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Monday, June 30, 2014 - 10:22 pm, by:  John Edler (Weekendrider) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If i connect B+ to FP to run a relay and 6mm twin from the battery for power will i still have all the cutout safeties.?
Ali Saeed
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WA
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Tuesday, July 01, 2014 - 01:31 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No cut out safeties if B+ and FP are bridged
Tom Richards
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nsw
V8

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Tuesday, July 01, 2014 - 08:36 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if you connect FP to B+ you do not need a relay.


Same end result and easier to do.
Casey Perkins
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Tasmania
TT

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Tuesday, July 01, 2014 - 09:40 am, by:  Casey Perkins (Caseyp) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Except the relay setup will act exactly like the stock pump would do in all situations ...
Casey Perkins
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TT

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Tuesday, July 01, 2014 - 10:21 am, by:  Casey Perkins (Caseyp) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also the the bp+ & Fp ports are for diagnostics, very possible to burn them out with improper connections, also engine bay fires are a poasibility
Tom Richards
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nsw
V8

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Tuesday, July 01, 2014 - 01:09 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

people have run the B+ FP short for yrs with no problems.


On the idea about the fuel pump not turning off in an accident, how many cars actually have this feature?
Blake Gloyn
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manawatu
soarer JZZ30 TT

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Tuesday, July 01, 2014 - 03:30 pm, by:  Blake Gloyn (Blakenz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All modern EFI cars with factory electrical systems have fuel pumps that shut off if the engine stops(Stalls/gets smashed etc)
In my opinion, bridging the B+ and Fp simply sends 12 volts to the fuel pump all the time, instead of the normal 9 volts at idle. So in short, it bypasses the fuel pump control computer, not the fuel pump relay.
Apparently some aftermarket pumps don't like the 9 volt/12 volt variable voltage thing.

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