Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 04:26 pm, by: Joseph Kelly(Phenonix)
I've mentioned in a couple of threads that i need help with the windows closing automatically when the car is alarmed but no-one has been able to help.
I have now tried every combination i can think of and i am really dumbfounded with this, so now i'm begging for help as i have the whole interior out doing other jobs and don't want to put it back together until i solve this!
The car alarm (Aftermarket) when locked will send a negative trigger to a separate window close module (Ebay),
This module if negative trigged has both wire going to earth, if positive triggered one goes to earth the other 12v, but our cars are negative triggered, so both go to earth.
From the module 2 wires go to each window , the two wire are cut into the wire that close the window, this is where i am stuck Which wire is the drivers window close wire? I have tried the red wire with grey traces, but still no luck, also tried other wire there and no lock
I don't even know how to test a negative trigger wire?? 12v yes, but not negative trigger.
Please someone give me some pointers a i think i have tried everything!
Friday, July 11, 2014 - 01:37 pm, by: Joseph Kelly(Phenonix)
Not at all, i've even re-tried everything again. Just about finished all my other jobs and about to put it back together without success Here is the instructions, if anyone has an idea..
Friday, July 11, 2014 - 08:37 pm, by: Jason Hall(Halljps)
You need to use diagram 1 as the windows are supplied with 12v+ to move.
It would be easier to do this on the drivers side control as you can access both windows from one place.
I cannot remember which coloured wire is up and which is down, but put a volt meter on the wire and press the switch with the ignition on and when you get ~12v, you will know...
Saturday, July 12, 2014 - 06:23 am, by: Joseph Kelly(Phenonix)
Thanks Jason, now its confirmed its a positive trigger. I also noticed that both plugs need to be plugged in to work, so Thanks again.
Drivers up is Red, passenger up is Red/Blue, both connected through the drivers switch. Although i have had it all connected like this previously , still no luck with it working, i'll keep trying.
Saturday, July 12, 2014 - 10:40 am, by: Jason Hall(Halljps)
Assuming the windows can both be driven using the switches, the wiring will be fine.
The module you are installing should be outputting 12v when the system is armed to wind the windows up. Test the two wires being spliced in for output when the alarm is activated. This should be on the actuator side of the cut wire as it is providing a alternate power source to the switch. If you test both wires and do not find 12v on either wire, the issue is in the controller...
Saturday, July 12, 2014 - 06:06 pm, by: Joseph Kelly(Phenonix)
Working! The confirmation of the proper wires and negative/positive trigger did the job... but...i think there was also something else going on...
I've noticed when the alarm locks about 5 seconds later i hear the doors clicking again..the windows now close on this second lock, don't know why it does that, and is also not very reassuring as i almost have to wait 5 seconds when leaving the car to see if they close, which defeats the whole purpose!, but anyway i'm glad it all working now, Thanks Jason,Tom,Peter.
Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - 06:37 pm, by: Joseph Kelly(Phenonix)
Yes remains locked on first and second click. Lights flash on first lock but don't on second.
There might be another reason the window closing is slow, there are 4 connections, the windows close one at a time in sequence, maybe i have them linked into the last 2 instead of the first two, i try them again this way.
Saturday, July 19, 2014 - 07:25 pm, by: Joseph Kelly(Phenonix)
Coincidently the door lock and window close wires are beside each other on the alarm module, so could easily be mixed up, but i have not had the window close wire connected up at all till now and the doors locked fine, but it is something i will recheck.
Saturday, July 19, 2014 - 08:20 pm, by: Joseph Kelly(Phenonix)
Just had a quick check My alarm installation instructions says that it sends a signal to the window close module for 12 seconds, just tested the locking and exactly 12 seconds the second click goes, so there seems to be a crossed wire?
It is all wired up as per instructions unless there is a misprint.
The window signal seems to be going to the door lock, which in essence still made it work albeit too long of a signal.
But the way it is all wired up now, everything works, except for that delayed click, weird.
Hopefully it is just a case of swapping those 2 wires around??
Sunday, July 20, 2014 - 12:19 pm, by: Joseph Kelly(Phenonix)
Fixed, it was a loose wire, the door switch wire was not connecting properly, Thanks peter, your question pointed me in the right direction, no second click now when i lock
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