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Peter Nitschke
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South Australia
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Monday, December 10, 2007 - 09:46 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone have any experience or opinions on the value of the after market clear coat protection treatments being sold by some new car dealers?
Dave Rose
TryHard
wa
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Monday, December 10, 2007 - 11:13 am, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes Peter we sell it our dealership ....and no its not worth it ...check the fine print? has to be checked once a year ...re applied plus a fee
Peter Nitschke
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Monday, December 10, 2007 - 11:28 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very helpful Dave, many thanks.

They have a few package options, but I was thinking it sounded like a way to cash in on the hype and excitement of buying a new car. The window tinting part of the package is also very expensive compared to what is available elsewhere.

Are there any recommendations as to good products that can be applied to help protect the interior and exterior?
Dave Rose
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Monday, December 10, 2007 - 12:15 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The vinyl protection is not to bad but drys to a shine , spoils the look a bit!....

Scotch guard the seats yourself if they are cloth?The defence packs are done at the tint shop so maybe a bit of arm twisting..DR
Ben Lipman
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Monday, December 10, 2007 - 06:52 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a mildly amusing incident at a Holden dealer several years ago that led me to believe they were worthless. (paint protection that is...)

I wanted to trade my two year old Holden (purchased from same dealer) in on a new Holden. After being given a disappointing trade value for the old car I explained that they must of forgotten about the expensive paint protection, interior treatments, and underbody protection they sold me two years ago. The salesman replied that it was not worth any extra value and was purely for 'peace of mind'. He then offered me the same "value adding protection pack" on the new car. I politely declined and went to Subaru...
Peter Nitschke
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Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 02:18 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep, some sales people shouldn't be in the job.

My wife has been looking for a "near new" Yaris for a few weeks, but the right combination of colour, auto and 1.5 litre engine hasn't yet come up.

Mid Friday afternoon, I wondered how a new one would compare in price and availability.

It turns out the cost difference isn't all that big, not being an expensive car, they don't drop $5,000 when you take them out the door.

First place I rang was Cornes Toyota as it's the closest to me, and the attitude was very good so I dropped in to get a feel for the place and discuss prices.

Despite being busy with a lot of people in the showroom that had all turned up around the same time, I was taken seriously, treated well, and offered a good and straightforward deal.

I then rang and visited CMI Toyota city and Jarvis Toyota where they really couldn't care. It was late Friday afternoon, but that shouldn't matter.

I then rang Cornes back again, and 3 people stayed back after 6:00pm so I could get back there and do the deal.

Despite a problem getting the car from their storage yard, they had it ready at 5:30pm Monday as promised and again stayed back to do the paperwork, show us the car and controls, do the final check over, etc.

So for a bit of good attitude, Cornes Toyota got what I would consider to be a quick and easy sale.

I know a Yaris won't make or break a dealership, but over the medium term, word of mouth, loyalty and other factors will bring in more business.

It seems so simple really. :-)
Peter Nitschke
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Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 02:19 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And thanks to the advice offered here, we declined the protection packs - thanks guys!
Jose-Antonio Castillo
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Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 02:25 pm, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Yaris is a surprisingly good little car. My sister's got a YRS-spec hatch (1.5 manual), very well laid out, with good amount of room and (when driven correctly) has enough power for driving around the 'burbs.
Peter Nitschke
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Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 02:39 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We have talked with a few owners, they all love them. Another recommendation was from a security driver that uses one to patrol the state's water reservoirs etc. It's done 140,000 k's in 12 months without a hitch and while it's only the 1.3, he says just keep the revs up a bit and it will go anywhere quite happily.

I don't think I will be trading in my Soarer though. :-)
Dave Rose
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Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 04:24 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They are bullet proof.....lots of Lexus tec in the car and a super Vtec engine.
Callum Finch
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Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 07:49 am, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I love the little Yaris.. such a cewt car =D

But lets get something straight here;
Prius > Yaris

But im biased ;D
Peter Nitschke
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Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 02:04 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

[CostPrius] > [CostYaris x 2]
Jose-Antonio Castillo
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Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 02:22 pm, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Prius is too expensive to make any sort of financial benefit (especially short term). If they were cheaper then possibly the above equation is true ahaha.
Callum Finch
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Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 06:52 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah but they are real beautiful cars.
The only one i'd have is the I-Tech sex sex.

$55k upwards isnt cheap though.
Dave Billings
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Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 02:00 am, by:  Dave Billings (Waveman1717) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Callum Finch wrote on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 06:52 pm:

$55k upwards isnt cheap though.


Dang, you can pick up one of those Prius' here for around $25k!
Callum Finch
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Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 09:37 am, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Shutup you yank!
You can also get current model Mustangs starting at $25k usd but we have to shell out upwards of $75k aud

The Australian retail car market is a joke.
Miles Baker
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Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 09:42 am, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

An M3 there is $50k. An E55 is like 80.


:-(
Daniel Czechowski
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Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 01:00 pm, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why? Extra govt import taxes, so that Holden and Ford can sell their locally made junk

Having said that, at least few thousand aussies have a job... at our expense though.

Back on topic, I was quite impressed with the Yaris when I test drove it some time ago. Wouldn't choose another econobox over it.
Brian Kelly
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Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 02:40 pm, by:  Brian Kelly (Whereswaldo583) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow that sucks. I looked up the exchange rate, and the US dollar is worth about 88 Aussie cents, which is pretty close.
It doesn't make sense that they charge out the ass for anything not Holden or Ford.
What crap!
Daniel Czechowski
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Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 02:56 pm, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Brian Kelly wrote on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 02:40 pm:

Wow that sucks. I looked up the exchange rate, and the US dollar is worth about 88 Aussie cents, which is pretty close.
It doesn't make sense that they charge out the ass for anything not Holden or Ford.
What crap!




Put it this way, prices don't change, they are just reaping benefits out of the foereign exchange gains...
Jose-Antonio Castillo
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Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 05:53 pm, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Crap indeed... car import taxes are ridiculous in Australia so when it comes to car prices and ownership you guys in the USA have got it lucky.
Daniel Czechowski
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Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 05:58 pm, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Car prices, AND petrol prices too! Lucky yanks! :-)
Brian Kelly
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Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 06:12 pm, by:  Brian Kelly (Whereswaldo583) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Jose-Antonio Castillo wrote on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 05:53 pm:

car import taxes are ridiculous in Australia



Import?!?! Don't do much of that here.
Jose-Antonio Castillo
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Friday, December 14, 2007 - 12:08 am, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Brian,

Dunno if we're on the same wavelength, however I'm talking about cars that aren't manufactured here... i.e. every Toyota, Honda, Mitsubishi etc. all fall under import car tax levies. So not cars that are private imports, but everything else that doesn't have a "Holden Commodore/Monaro" or "Ford Falcon" badge... sucks BIG time.
Miles Baker
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Friday, December 14, 2007 - 01:18 am, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The other big cost is the Australian Standards work spread over such a small number of units sold.

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