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Luke Burt
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Queensland
Soarer TT

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Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 01:59 pm, by:  Luke Burt (Burt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi guys,

Am going to be painting a body kit soon to match my diamond pearl white soarer, Just wondering is the standard paint from factory in 2pac or acrylic? as I'd like to try and match the finish as closely as i can.

Thanks.
Haydn Crandell
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NSW
TT 2.5

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Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 02:10 pm, by:  Haydn Crandell (Haydn) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It wouldnt matter if it was 2 pak or acrylic.
2 pak will match up well.
depending on who is doing the mixing of the paint of course.

pearl colours are very hard to match,there is a ground coat to go down first and if you get that to dark or to light even ,it can throw it right out .

most painters will blend the colour into the nearest panel when doing spot repairs .

have a look at all the soarers getting around with differant colour bars on the especially the mettallic ones.
be prepared to pay a bit to have it done.
good luck with it
Brian Timms
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New South Wales
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Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 04:22 pm, by:  Brian Timms (Turbo_brian) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Factory paint is 2-pac, base and colour for the first layer, and clearcoat for the 2nd layer.

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Luke Burt
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Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 07:02 pm, by:  Luke Burt (Burt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for answering the question Brian.
Andrew Stewart
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Friday, December 21, 2007 - 09:30 am, by:  Andrew Stewart (Daboom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

2 pack is also alot more expensive. you require the primer / filler and the thinner for that, you then require the base colour, reducer and catalyst (hardener), and then the clear coat, reducer and hardener for that. all up a 2 pack with metallic / pearl will cost close to $200 / for a front bar. where as acrylic laquer will be around the 120 for a front bar, as it still has the same number of components, e.g primer & thinner, colour and thinner (no hardener) and clear coat & thinner. acrylic laquer does not require a hardener as the chemicals evaporate out of the paint causing it to cure, where as the 2 pack relies on the hardener to dry it. 2 pack will give a much more shiner coat out of the can as you don't need to cut it back and will give you a much nicer finish without as much effort, but acrylic laquer will require you to give the paint a light sand and cut & polish after 36 - 48 hours after painting to bring up the factory shine. really the main advantage of acrylic laquer is the ease of doing it and the cost
Miles Baker
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Friday, December 21, 2007 - 10:27 am, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well these all depend. There are many variables. Note, there is a difference between 2 pak and 2 stage.

2 pak or 2K is generally referring to a paint that is like an epoxy - you mix a base and hardener and spray that on. The "opposite" of 2 pak is generally referred to as acrylic or lacquer (1K). This paint dries by evaporation of a solvent.

2 *STAGE* refers to a finish that involves spraying a base colour, then spraying a clear over the top. Single stage is spraying the colour, and that's it. There are 2K paint systems for single stage and base/clear. There are 1K paint systems for single stage and base/clear.

In my experience, the quality of the paint is the major determining factor. 2 stage tends to give a wetter look, but I've also seen beautiful 2K single stage jobs that were finished with careful wet sanding and buffing.

Just let your painter use what he knows. He knows best. All of these options will need a primer followed by a filler for bare substrate, or at the minimum a good sealer over an existing finish. Any or all of these layers can conflict with each other, and your painter knows what works.

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