Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 01:46 pm, by: Shane Haverkamp(Havabeer)
i'm THINKING about doing this.
i have a rough idea of what i'll be getting my self into.
just wondering if anyone else on here has done the job them selfs and a ROUGH estimate on what it cost them
my other idea/thought is. whats to stop me doing it a panel at a time. say remove the bonnet. sand, prep paint put it back on then remove the front 1/4 panels. is it just a real pain in the arse to remove the panels?
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 08:34 pm, by: Kyle Wathen(Cspot)
Just done expect fantastic results respraying the whole car by yourself, if you have no experience.
If you think your handy with a spray gun another option is to do all the prep work by yourself and then rent a spray booth for a day and spray it yourself.
How bads the paint? If it comes up ok with a professional detail, i wouldnt touch it. If the paint is really bad already then theres no harm in trying.
Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 01:25 am, by: Mark Zimmer(Markzimmer)
I considered doing it once with my older car, I think its not a bad idea as long as you have the right materials. For some reason the pictures arent working anymore, but (dont hate me ) check this article on NS forums http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/index.php?autocom=ibwiki&cmd=article&id=263 when pictures worked it came out with a great result.
Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 09:41 pm, by: Aka Abedin(Soarer_91tt)
I painted my N13 once. When i was still on my Ps. I just went to TAFE and borrowed some videos and books did a little bit of research and went from there.
In terms of materials:
Spray gun (gravity feed) $150 sand papers (all diff grades of wet & dry) $50 4L of metallic paint from V&G around $109 Thinners 20L drum around $100ish 4L of clear another $100ish
Also budget another $100 on fillers and small items.
I didnt take off any of the parts other then the bonnet. It wasnt the best paint job but i sure had fun doing it and it looked better then the old paint job.
If you do decide to do it and need a hand I am willing to help you out but as I am not a pro i will not take any responsibility.
Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 06:12 am, by: Andrew Smith(Bt1323)
you cant sand prep and paint and put it back on you have to prep the whole car then hit it with the color at once otherwise, every panel will have a different shade of the color
Monday, November 24, 2008 - 01:09 pm, by: Shane Haverkamp(Havabeer)
ok so after realising i can't paint the panels individually.
i do have a decent shed that i can use as a temp spray booth. i'm also going to paint the car white again so i don't have to go over the door jambs/engine bay/boot etc.
been doing a bit of reading of whats involved in respraying the car. the paint's condition is pretty ok. it does have some scrapes (a pretty big one i managed to give it on the weekend ) some bugs and tar stuff. and other imperfections. but no major dints or big cracks in the paint.
so another question is. is it worth stripping the whole car back to metal or would it be ok just to sand the existing paint a bit and go over that. the hardest part would probably be preping the existing paint for being painted over.
and if going back to metal whats the best route to go with removing the old paint. sand blasting is out, and i've heard mixed things about orbital sanders. so whats the best thiners to use?
sorry about all the questions just trying to make sure i get all this right before i attempt it.
Monday, November 24, 2008 - 02:32 pm, by: Brenton Trafford(Traff)
Shane you may want to get hold of some old panels from a wrecker that you can practise on. I think you'll find that it's not as easy as you think, or it may be, but I strongly suggest you try a couple of throw away panels first before you attempt it on your car.
Monday, November 24, 2008 - 06:00 pm, by: Shane Haverkamp(Havabeer)
yeah i have a piece of poo hiace van i can practice on, so worries there.
just thought it might be a butt load easier to just spray over the top (after a sanding of course) rather then having to sand the whole thing back all the way.
Monday, November 24, 2008 - 06:33 pm, by: Miles Baker(Milesb)
You can rub and spray, but you wanna be sure the two paints are compatible. Might be best to rub it, then shoot it with a sealer. Also gives you some margin for error if you rub through to metal (you will) and some practice spraying. I say go for it. Just make sure you have a big enough compressor and a good dryer on it.
Monday, November 24, 2008 - 06:51 pm, by: Doran Guthrie(Dozzly)
Done a couple of backyardies in my time but would never consider doing it to anything other than a bunky you really dont care about. 3 most important thing when doing a white job Prep! Any panel warp or dings get massively highlighted (its amazing how many dents and chips you can spot while preping)W+G Remover your best friend. Gun - better the gun, better the paint atomises and doesnt clog. Compressor - steal mates and parallel more than 1 so you have enough tank space. First job I did was horrible with runs everywhere but that was just an arvo job, but with each successive time it gets better. Oh, make sure you get premium thinners too......
Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 12:56 pm, by: Shane Haverkamp(Havabeer)
ok so i have my list of materials
Approx 10 sheets of 180g wet rub sand paper Approx 10 sheets of 400g wet rub sand paper Approx 10 sheets of 800g wet rub sand paper 4l Acrylic automotive primer 4l Acrylic automotive solid colour 2 rolls of 25mm masking tape 1 roll of 2inch masking tape 3-4 newspapers Spray gun with 1.4-1.6mm tip 20l general purpose or acrylic thinners ½ sand paper sheet sized rubbing block 4l prepwash-prepsol-wax & grease remover Minimum 50lt 2.5hp air compressor can of flat black
but doing some more reading i found that my original paint is 2 pack and i want to paint over it with acrylic. is there going to be issues with this when priming after my initial sanding?
Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 01:31 pm, by: Michael Crimp(Zen1953)
Hi Shane, I've done a fair bit of painting on old boats with numerous layers of paint and I can assure you that all your paints and primers and chemicals need to be compatible or it could easily end up looking like it's been hit with paint stripper. Brenton Trafford (post 15 here) has found someone in Adelaide to do respray for about $950 and there is someone in Brisbane for similar prices. Shop around you will find someone in NSW. I just tried to do a temporary job on my front bar and made a mess of it. However I intended to do a full respray in Adelaide in January anyway. Good Luck