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Ryan Rankovic
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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 12:23 am, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey guys, tried a search for Soarer stud patterns but could only find info on the Celsior.

Wondering if these will fit?

18x9 +18 (Hi Disk)
18x10.5 +17 (low disk)
114.3 5 hole.


anyone know what hi and low disk means? ive asked the seller but waiting for a reply.
i know the soarer offset is +50, so would i be able to get spacers for these rims?
and is the stud pattern 114.3 5 hole for the soarer?
these are the rims
http://img209.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/5/1/3/7/yukihe50-img600x450-11293848141_004.jpg

thanks guys

ryan
Jose-Antonio Castillo
TryHard
NSW
Black/Black JZZ30 VVTi

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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 12:36 am, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oooh... Trafficstar DTS? They look HOT!

The offsets are VERY low, you'll have to pull the fenders to make them fit.

Hi and low-disc refers to the different type of wheel face (or whereabouts it sits in the rim). A hi-disk set up has better clearance which means you can fit larger calipers (ie. Supra 4-pots) and still use that wheel, and the low-disk refers to how deep it sits in the rim.

Oh, and chucking spacers on them would lower the offset even more.
Thomas Mulraney
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South Australia
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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 12:45 am, by:  Thomas Mulraney (Mxt_imports) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

damn, nice wheels, got dish!? If they do fit, they will look sexual!
Ryan Rankovic
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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 12:54 am, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks for the fast replies guys

so 114.3 is ok?
pull the fenders? same thing as gaurd rolling? flaring?
would a wheel joint do this for me if i got them to fit tyres and the rims?
are soarer gaurds suitable for flaring? i dont care if they need to be touched up with paint or anything, but is the gaurd strong enough to be pulled out to suit these rims?
Peter Nitschke
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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 01:31 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Too wide, way to low offset. Need huge guards and will handle like a pig - tramline city apart from anything else.


Soarers simply aren't made to handle deep dish rims.
Ryan Rankovic
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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 01:38 am, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i dont care about tramlining, will the guards be able to cope with the amount of flaring needed to be done to fit these?
Dominik Bloemhard
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NSW
V6T

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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 08:54 am, by:  Dominik Bloemhard (Dominik) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

VIPStylecars.com is down at the moment but there is a guy on there that fitted 18x11s with close to zero offset with only guard rolling. Granted the wheels have a bit of 'poke', its nothing a bit of guard pulling or camber wouldnt fix.

Edit... ooh, looky-looky i managed to find some pics. Its the car at the front (the car in the back has similar fitments though!)

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Jose-Antonio Castillo
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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 11:21 am, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^ I remember reading about that SC3. The wheels have a ridiculous offset on them (like +7 or something). A little to extreme but I love the way the wheels sit on the Soarer behind it (the gold Work Meister S1/SSR Professor wheels).
Ryan Rankovic
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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 01:04 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

guys guys guys

are soarers stud pattern 114.3?

will the guards be able to cope with the amount of flaring needed to fit these? can camber be adjusted without a camber kit?

reckon my car will look horn with them on?

these are available until the 20th of this month so i need a quick answer on the above q's..... but thanks heaps with the replies so far
Ryan Rankovic
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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 03:54 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok found out that stud pattern is 114.3

BUT can soarer guards handle lots of flaring?????

someone has to know!
James Harris
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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 05:34 pm, by:  James Harris (Haro) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if you just cut them off and then stick on new ones.... thats how all the dirty drifters get around it.

Could be expensive tho.
Jose-Antonio Castillo
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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 09:20 pm, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ryan, the pics of the Soarers posted up have pulled guards.
Morgan Cross
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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 09:45 pm, by:  Morgan Cross (Morgan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Forget if they will fit or not, the car will more than likely drive like a Sofa bed with them on.

Not the mention you will be differing from standard offset by more than 10 so it wont be street legal either, nor are they within legal width limits for Vicotians for a Soarer.
Ryan Rankovic
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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 11:00 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i dont really care about handling...
and if i get defected ill just put the stockies back on

is it a safety reason why you cant differ more than 10 for the offset?
Dominik Bloemhard
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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 11:12 pm, by:  Dominik Bloemhard (Dominik) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think the reasoning is that offsets affect the car's handling dynamics, and this means the car will perform differently to what the manufacturer intended... Or perhaps its about the extra stress on wheel bearings.

But almost any mod you do will affect the handling dynamics, and any performance mod you do to the engine will probably cause more stress on the engine components, so i'm not sure...

I believe you can get them engineered in VIC though. NSW is a bit more difficult...

Btw, if VIPStyleCars.com wasnt down atm, there are members there that could answer your questions on Soarer fenders in an instant....
Dominik Bloemhard
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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 11:17 pm, by:  Dominik Bloemhard (Dominik) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also, what are the wheel specs on Ueno's drift soarer? I can guarantee you they arent +50 offset 8" wide, and i bet that car handles better than a Sealy Posturepedic!
Peter Nitschke
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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 11:38 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You think so Dom? Last I saw, it was smoking and sliding all over the road. Not very well behaved at all! :-)
Dominik Bloemhard
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Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 12:11 am, by:  Dominik Bloemhard (Dominik) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, maybe its not designed for best track times, but it must have been 'behaved' otherwise it would be hard to control in the slide!
Peter Nitschke
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Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 02:46 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Probably not designed for good street handling either - which was my point :-)
Dominik Bloemhard
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Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 08:44 am, by:  Dominik Bloemhard (Dominik) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well that may be, but i was also just trying to make a point :-) I think we should leave the conjecturing about the handling characteristics to those who have actually run similar wheel/suspension setups. Suspension and handling is a pretty complicated subject, and just because someone had tramlining with +32 offset wheels doesnt mean we can extrapolate that all low offset wheel setups will handle badly.

Now, it may be that it will drive like with those wheels, but i'm not going to pretend i know how it will behave on his car. And if it does handle badly, then I am more than happy to take those wheels off his hands for my Cedric!!! :-) :-)

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