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Lionel Trotea
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2.5L TT

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Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 08:41 pm, by:  Lionel Trotea (Baileys112) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In four hours I went from some heinous looking rear bumper to pristine workings of Michael Angelo.

So this is after I sanded all the crap away. As you can tell it is indeed daylight. I dont have a pic of what it was initally but it was shyt.








This is after I used the Primer and Filler on it. Theres like 6-7 coats on there.





And this is the final product :-) Theres a little colour difference with the rest of the car but thats because I havent applied the clear coat protectant on it. Hopefully it looks the same. If not then I have to end up doing the whole car myself.








Im pretty proud of myself. :-)
James Harris
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Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 11:04 pm, by:  James Harris (Haro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Lionel Trotea wrote on Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 08:41 pm:

Hopefully it looks the same. If not then I have to end up doing the whole car myself.




heheh

Looks the goods mate and YUP fingers crossed it all matches up ok. Dont be too worried about it though as that rear bar rarely seems to match the rest of the car hey... there was some discussion of this recently.

You seem pretty handy though, what paints did you use? Tools?
Lionel Trotea
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Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 11:17 pm, by:  Lionel Trotea (Baileys112) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well seeing this was the first major thing i did for my car, besides installing the HIDs, Im quite proud to be called handy. Im too used to paying people to do this sort of thing. But with centerlink, things need to be done on bare minimum finance.

Umm, tools? pliers to take off the tail lights. Thats about it really. I went to Repco and told them the code of the colour and they swung me some primer filler, 2 cans of spray paint, and a heap load of sanding paper. Ranging from 80 to 1200 grit.

I must say it really pays a toll on your back bending for 3 hours.
Lionel Trotea
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Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 11:20 pm, by:  Lionel Trotea (Baileys112) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mind you, that damage on the bumper was there for a year. Looked so horrible.
Ben Lipman
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Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 06:22 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wanna come down here and do my front bumper? I already have a litre(ish) of paint...

Just a question: did you use a product called flexiprime (or similar)? WHen I did my front rubber lip, I was advised to use flexiprime so the paint had some flex and wasn't brittle. The bumpers are rather soft and flexible.

I am impressed that you got it all done in one sitting.
Aaron Mead
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NT
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Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 06:42 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Damn, autobarn up here wont mix up 6k4 paint for my celsior boot.

Its a big job, painting eh?
Chris Round
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Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 06:44 pm, by:  Chris Round (Hermie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Excellent finish on the bumper - looks factory!

And remember, the rest of that paint is around 15 years old so it will never look like a perfect match, but its probably more of a reason to do your whole car!

One of the final shots from straight back looks like a close match to the boot, it only stands out on the side shot. So, just stay in front of everyone on the road! Haha, there is logic in there somewhere.
Lionel Trotea
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Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 09:05 pm, by:  Lionel Trotea (Baileys112) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The primer and filler i used was K&H. It has a VT on the front. Honestly I just used whatever they gave me, and it turned out to go alright. The old Repco lads know their stuff.

Yea after 4 hours it pays a big toll on your back and legs stretching and bending heaps. Im still sore now but a work out never hurt anyone ;)

Actually, the rest of the car has MASSIVE key marks on it. A few cockheads thought it would teach me a lesson, which never happend. Now the marks are down to the metal. I'd be devo'd if it rusted.

Ill take a few pics to show you what I mean.
Lionel Trotea
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Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 09:31 pm, by:  Lionel Trotea (Baileys112) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Heres a few key marks on the driver side.





This one was actually done by a dog at 70 down a hill. The poor bugger ran right out of his house and under my wheel. Felt a bit sick on the way home.



And here is a few on the rear end. I guess they thought they should give my car a good even scratching. Why stick to one side when you can do all of them?

Matthew Sharpe
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Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 05:51 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, thats nasty! No insurance?
Lionel Trotea
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Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 10:53 am, by:  Lionel Trotea (Baileys112) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

na insurance costs too much. just going the cheapo way and playing it by ear.
Michael Crimp
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Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 11:35 am, by:  Michael Crimp (Zen1953) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi, Fabulous job mate.
You have every right to be smug statisfied.
I'm not handy myself but did my front bumper,
the paint went great but the clear coat wouldn't stick properly on the test patch so I sanded it off back and it looks like a mat bumper now.
It'll do until a full respray anyway and I feel better about it every time I look at the car.
Also when they mixed up the spray paint can of 6M2 (Royal Jade Pearl I think) I got them to give me a separate small pot for touch up work and I went over all the key scratches with a fine artists brush.
Up close you can see it but a couple of meters back and "Voila". I don't wince every time I look at the car and regret that such a beautiful and magnificent beast is scarred.
Ben Lipman
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Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 07:43 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is where having a red mica car sucks. It is so damn hard to match the colour. I have a pot of 3K3, but it still isn't quite right.
Michael Crimp
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Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 08:26 pm, by:  Michael Crimp (Zen1953) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A panel beater told me that he used heat to straighten out plastic bumpers so I used hot water and pushed and kneeded some a few small dents. The longer you leave them the more permanent the dent.
I have also heard that placing dry ice can take out small dents. I am waiting until I go to a city to try that one. The
Aaron Casey
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Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 09:39 pm, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

nice work, its unfortunate to see vandalism, its happened to a few of my mates cars and my daily has been egged along with my sisters and a few mates cars while being out fron of my house so now everyone has egg shell marks on their paintwork :-( so yeh if ever find them grrr.. but i guess you are lucky it wasnt sideswiped and u werent able to find who did it like my soarer... very expensive..
bit more time and effort fixing the front bar and the scratches and she will look like new :-) and then you can be even more proud cause you done it yourself! :-) just make sure you clear coat it and give it a good polish etc as i done the bodykit on my run around and i got performance pads and the brake dust has eaten into the paint and has turned the white into a dark grey so i have to spray it again... i think maybe more clear coats.... but then i done it outside at 2 degree temperature with the spray gun in one hand and a hairdryer in the other to try keep the fog off it hahaha good times..
David Tra
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Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 06:13 pm, by:  David Tra (Bookie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well done Lionel. U just gave me an idea :-)
Aaron Casey
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Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 06:43 pm, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

only thing i would say is try take the bar off then that way you can go properly to the edge and cause its plastic try use some flexi add to your paint so it has a tiny bit of give so doesnt flake when something presses on hte plastic and it bends in..
Lionel Trotea
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Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 07:58 pm, by:  Lionel Trotea (Baileys112) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cheers David. What idea have I given you?

Would anyone know an easier way to sand off the existing paint without using the old sanding block and thy hands?
Aaron Casey
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Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 09:59 pm, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sanding off or sanding down? there are pads you can get for an angle grinder made for paint stripping but would take it back to bare metal pretty quick.. if you rough up your original paint and clean it properly you can just paint over the original paint... but im no spray painter just a diy so if anyone is may have some better tips..
Scott Wilkes
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Friday, April 17, 2009 - 09:35 am, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Paint stripper is your friend, get a very large tup of it and lather the bodyworks in it, some areas may require a second coating but it will just lift the paint of like no other.

Use a scrapper to scrape the old paint off and then once its basically stripped take a rotary sander and use bodywork sanding pads, will get it back to baremetal in no time.
Aaron Casey
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Friday, April 17, 2009 - 12:10 pm, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i also know can of gasket stripper works really well... a guy at work tried to tell me to use it to get the silicone off after i took the sidemoulding off my commodore... tested it on hte paint on hte bench at work... its no longer painted haha
Lionel Trotea
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Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 09:07 am, by:  Lionel Trotea (Baileys112) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so really with the paint stripper you just rub it all over the panels? and the paint magically peels off?

This rotary sander you speak of, is it for automotive use or carpentrary? how much would one be you reckon?
Scott Wilkes
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Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 09:21 am, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

just general paint stripper, you can buy it in 5 litre paint cars. Paint the stuff on and wear protective gloves and clothing, as the stuff BURNS like crazy when it gets on your skin.

Basically paint a panel at a time, and let it sit for a minute or so, then just use a scraper and scrap the lifted paint off, seeing cars use multiple layers of paint, it may need a few coats to full strip it.

The rotary sander you but the sanding pads and baseplate and basically install it onto a orbital sander if you want, i prefer to use one with variable speed as to not cause flat spots in the bodywork, the pad is soft so it forms to the bodywork instead of just contacting a small spot

Go into you local automotive parts supplier, repco, bunnings, or automotive paint stores and ask them what they have, Places like bunnings have sanders as well, the 1 i use is just for building, wood etc
David Tra
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Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 05:39 pm, by:  David Tra (Bookie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I clipped the garage the other day. Massive chuck taken out of the wheel arc.

I have painted it for the time being. When i have time, i will do some sanding and bogging up.

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