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Sam Schreck
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ACT
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Monday, February 20, 2006 - 05:19 pm, by:  Sam Schreck (Schreck300) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

After parking near a large lawn area yesterday, I now have some very UGLY large white calcium blotches on my nice black car. They're from a bore water sprinkler system. Washing normally, with baby soap and warm water didn't remove it all. Someone tried telling me today that CLR clear (calcium, lime, rust remover) will remove without damaging the paint. No way in hell would I try this without running it past the worlds best panel. Surely this stuff would sprip the buggery out of my paint job...
Dave Hart
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Waikato
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Monday, February 20, 2006 - 05:43 pm, by:  Dave Hart (Davyboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What does the container say?
Or you could try it on someone else's car.
Better not, try some paintwork that you don't mind damaging. There again there's the clear coat to worry about.
Peter Burrett
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ACT
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Monday, February 20, 2006 - 05:46 pm, by:  Peter Burrett (Burrett) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sambo, try detailing clay before risking that luverly black paint.....
Don Bagnall
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Monday, February 20, 2006 - 05:46 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sam, don't know the EXACT answer, but I would suggest using a "Clay Bar", to cleanse the paint, without stripping it too much.

Also suggest talking/emailing Jeff Harper, as he was a car detailer of MUCH experience!.

Peter Burrett
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Monday, February 20, 2006 - 05:48 pm, by:  Peter Burrett (Burrett) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's not easy to beat the Kiwis, but I think i made it by about a nanosecond, Baggs second?
Don Bagnall
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Monday, February 20, 2006 - 06:24 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Simultainous "Post-Gazem" (or however it's spelt!)

Perry Morgan
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Qld
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Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 12:25 pm, by:  Perry Morgan (Uzz32) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe remove a trim and try in on some paint that is not normally seen?
Adam Lonergan
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Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 03:16 pm, by:  Adam Lonergan (Alchemistal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just leave your car out in the rain one day/night. A long gentle wash with rainwater will fix it.
Michael Keen
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NSW
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Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 04:05 pm, by:  Michael Keen (Jzz30man) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the sun came out after the bore water hit it, and had rested in droplets, I think you will find that the following has happened.
The droplets have acted like a magnifying glass and melted the wax a little and it has run the centre of the drop then dried when the droplet evaporated. Leaving a whit mark that is actually wax.
This has happened to cars in the past for me. I tried cutting compound and all sorts to fix it.
The best way to fix it was with some thick rubber gloves, a sponge and a bucket of water that you have just boiled. As hot as you can stand it.
Soak the sponge and rub the sponge and hot water over the car, the wax should melt and redistribute itself evenly.
Assuming i have understood you dilema correctly of course.
Sam Schreck
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Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 04:15 pm, by:  Sam Schreck (Schreck300) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thankyou panel.
Michael, Exactamundo.
Peter and Don, I shall try the clay.
Jason Kingsmill
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NSW
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Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 06:00 pm, by:  Jason Kingsmill (Jason_k) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Before clay, I would use paint cleaner. Seems to be much easier to apply and remove than using a clay bar.
Sam Schreck
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Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 09:39 pm, by:  Sam Schreck (Schreck300) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Jason. Can you recommend a brand mate?
Jason Kingsmill
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Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 09:55 pm, by:  Jason Kingsmill (Jason_k) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, I use Meguiars Paint cleaner
http://www.meguiars.com/?auto-paint-cleaners/Deep-Crystal-System-Paint-Cleaner

I do the whole lot: wash, paint clean, polish, wax. Damn time consuming, but once it's waxed....aint no crap gonna stick to it. Makes it so damn easy to clean, just a hose straight over-top. Don't even need a sponge, just high pressure for even caked on bird crap, and no more marks!
Sam Schreck
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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 07:46 am, by:  Sam Schreck (Schreck300) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cheers
Jose-Antonio Castillo
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NSW
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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:11 pm, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I tried hand buffing with paint cleaner, looks like I'll be needing clay bar plus an orbital to get all the marks out

Is it true that the black paint on Soarers don't have a clear coat? I've heard so...
Sam Schreck
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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:34 pm, by:  Sam Schreck (Schreck300) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When you clean or buff, does any black come off onto whatever you're holding? If you get black, I'd say there's no clear. Having said that, when I took my car to the painters to have it de-badged, they told me the paint job on Soarers is top shelf.
Don Bagnall
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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:41 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've gotta funny feeling that it's only the Pearl and the metalics that have the clear coat. I know our Teal one has it.

I'd just ring one of those automotive paint specialist type dudes, and give em Toyota paint code 202, and they'll tell ya's if it's clear coated or snot.

Mike Triggs
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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 06:09 pm, by:  Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

having lived in the outback, off and on, for some years I'd say the rings aren't harmful. When in Cobar if I didn't chamois the car immediately I always ended up with those rings, as our water came all the way from Nyngan- the Bogan River. We used to get it on the windows, too (of the house) and as it wan't cleaned off straight away it built up there. I think I got much of it off with vinegar... not recommended for car paintwork!
Sam Schreck
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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 07:47 pm, by:  Sam Schreck (Schreck300) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well I tried the boiling water with baby shampoo today, then chamois. Followed that with the Meguiars Paint cleaner. It is a lot better, but still visible. I did a fair bit of reading up on the use of a clay bar and am now a little scared to try it. Too much room for error, especially on a black car. I probably get it detailed professionally next. Thanks for your advise and input everyone.
Luis Ramirez
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Friday, March 10, 2006 - 01:26 am, by:  Luis Ramirez (Lui) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Try some bug and tar remover, it worked for me when some idiot decided to spay paint the car in the middle of the night, then i noticed it the next day,it was a hot day and the spray paint had dried, so i used bug n tar remover and it got rid of it all eventually, without any damage to the paint job of the car. Also says clear coat safe on the bottle.
Sam Schreck
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Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 12:58 pm, by:  Sam Schreck (Schreck300) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Luis, I'll give it a try.

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