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Carl Langley
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NSW
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Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 07:05 am, by:  Carl Langley (Adj) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Long story short, I'm halfway backed out of a parking spot down at the local Blockbuster and some typical 'Soccer Mom' in a 4WD that couldn't see me at all backs right into my baby.

Just when I was about to get around to fixing up everything with my car, this had to happen!

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It was 100% her fault so her insurance will cover it, I just have to sort out all that crap on Monday.

Does it look like a straightforward job that most smash repairers can take care of, or should I look into taking it to someone that has more experience with Soarers etc? (I'm in Sydney)
Jeff Harper
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Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 08:37 am, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did you have witness, she can change her story it's happened SO many times on this forum, so have witness's stiched up.
Benny Gammelmark
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Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 10:40 am, by:  Benny Gammelmark (Oldfield) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you have a chance at all then take it to Mark Stewart Smash repairs. He is fabulous at matching paints and he also does an extremely good job (he's got my front bar sitting there right now).

Mark Stewart Smash Repairs
376 Pittwater Rd
North Manly, NSW 2100
Phone: 9907 1000

Don't take it to any smash repairer. Only the good ones will be able to match the paint since it's probably faded a bit over time.
Haydn Crandell
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Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 01:06 pm, by:  Haydn Crandell (Haydn) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Carl Langley wrote on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 07:05 am:

Does it look like a straightforward job that most smash repairers can take care of, or should I look into taking it to someone that has more experience with Soarers etc? (I'm in Sydney)



weather it is a soarer or a datsun 120y a panel is a panel ,you will find most of that will pull out very easily,and being in sydney that will cost loads for that!!!!!!!!!!! being insurance make sure you get everything out of them,get them to take the windows out so there is no rough masking up around window edges,no doubt they will put in to paint the whole side ,bootlid and turret.tell them you dont want it blended between the quarter glass and rear window.good luck
I was quoted $1500 to repair and paint this,

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in the end i fixed it for $70 sanded with 2000 wet and dry ,buffed and polished ,then rang the dent wizard,highly recommened the dent wizard for those of you that have small dents where the paint isnt cracked .cheers
Carl Langley
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Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 01:08 pm, by:  Carl Langley (Adj) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't have any witnesses apart from my brother who was in the car with me at the time and my dad who happened to pull into the carpark about a minute after it happened.

The other driver was pretty cool about it though, she was genuinely sorry and the first thing she said was that's it's ok, it was totally her fault and her insurance will cover it. So hopefully she won't pull a swifty and go changing her story or anything like that.

Cheers for that Benny, that's so handy because I'm just up Pittwater road at Mona Vale so I'll definitely be taking the car to Mark.
Benny Gammelmark
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Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 05:17 pm, by:  Benny Gammelmark (Oldfield) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You wont regret it.
Carl Langley
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Monday, February 27, 2006 - 05:05 pm, by:  Carl Langley (Adj) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If I can't get it fixed for awhile, should I be worried about rust getting in where the bare metal is showing? (I live next to the beach)
Haydn Crandell
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Monday, February 27, 2006 - 09:16 pm, by:  Haydn Crandell (Haydn) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, it will all be sanded off anyway interested in seeing what he quote was .have you got one yet?
Carl Langley
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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 01:24 pm, by:  Carl Langley (Adj) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark gave me an on the spot quote of $3500+, and for some reason he took pictures of my rego sticker, number plate and engine number... I think he thinks I stole the car or something.

Oh and somehow it turned out to be my fault and the other driver's insurance won't pay for it.
David Vaughan
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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 04:16 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Digital photos are standard practice. They send those to the insurance company instead of writing it all down and possibly making a mistake. They should also have photographed all damage. It usually means the damage and quotes can be assessed without sending someone out to see the car. Cheaper.

Are you insured? If so, your company will fight that question with the other company. If not, you will have to take it up yourself based on your witness reports.
Ryan Rankovic
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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 04:55 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Carl Langley wrote on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 01:24 pm:

Oh and somehow it turned out to be my fault and the other driver's insurance won't pay for it.




how the does that work?
Haydn Crandell
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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 05:48 pm, by:  Haydn Crandell (Haydn) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah how the does that work,stick to your guns and make then pay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!then again if your reversing you are in the wrong straight away so they say,and she was reversing to, by the sound of it.interesting to see what happens now ,after she has admitted liability .
Jeff Harper
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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 08:27 pm, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You are NOT in the wrong if you had stopped reversing and blew your horn at the reversing other party and they continued in an unsafe manner despite your warnings and hit your stationary vehicle.

As I'm sure that is what happened.
Carl Langley
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Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 01:20 am, by:  Carl Langley (Adj) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is what happened:

I was sitting in the parking spot waiting to come out and the 4WD is sitting behind me and just forward like this:


So she sits there for a good two minutes waiting for a parking spot IN FRONT OF HER. I've got room to get out so I decide to back out slowly and I stop and wait just behind her because her ridiculously oversized tank of a vehicle is totally obscuring my view of any traffic coming past her.


Then her stupid, massive bloody tank of car was blocking someone going in or out of a parking spot in front of her so she APPARENTLY checks her mirrors and backs right into me.


I blew my horn about a second before she hit me.

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Dave Hart
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Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 01:50 am, by:  Dave Hart (Davyboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So she ran into you, albeit backwards. Her fault as she didn't check behind her.
I would have thought that the panel damage would show that that was the case.
Ryan Rankovic
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Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 02:15 am, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

awesome paint skills Carl!

hope that stupid bitch gets over for lying
David Vaughan
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Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 06:53 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You reverse into someone, you are wrong. With the visible evidence of damage on the side of your car and not on a corner, it is difficult to see a case for her.
Thomas Mulraney
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Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 09:48 am, by:  Thomas Mulraney (Mxt_imports) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with David, Carl, stick to your guns. About 6 months ago a taxi merged into my lane (and the side of my car) going around a corner. Clearly his fault and to top it off, there just happened to be 2 on-duty Star Group Police Officers on the corner who witnessed everything. Even so, his insurance company still accused me and threatened to take me to court, etc based on no evidence. The police report had been delayed and so they tried to bluff me, which obviously didn't work!

Anyway, long story short it took over 4 months but eventually they paid up in full and we didn't go to court etc. Once the assessor sees the damage I think it will be pretty clear who hit who and she won't have a leg to stand on. Plus it could help to write her a letter addressing the fact that she changed her story. If she still doesn't listen, than get your insurance company or lawyer to draft up a letter threatening legal action. That usually does the trick! Either way, good luck and don't back down because eventually you will win!!
Damien Smith
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Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 12:27 pm, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Insurance companies always try to bluff out of paying to start with - they have nothing to lose and sometimes it works. Just stick it out and you'll be right.
Thomas Mulraney
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Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 12:39 pm, by:  Thomas Mulraney (Mxt_imports) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Exactly right Damien, I remember the lady at the taxi company had the gall to outright lie on the phone to me and tell me that she had already spoken to the cops who witnessed the accident and they said they didn't see anything, or what they did see wouldn't hold up in court. After I got off the phone I called the cop and he'd never even heard of her, let alone spoken to her. Needless to say he wasn't happy so I happily passed on her number!
Damien Smith
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Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 12:45 pm, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Karma in the form of Mr Plod - nice one :-)
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Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 01:32 pm, by:  Perry Morgan (Uzz32) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Man, I hate people. Lying sons of....
Oh hey Damien, what are you doing in here?
Damien Smith
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Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 01:23 pm, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I snuck in when you were looking the other way
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Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 03:52 pm, by:  Shane Ilich (Ferret) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Damien Smith wrote on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 12:27 pm:

Insurance companies always try to bluff out of paying to start with - they have nothing to lose and sometimes it works. Just stick it out and you'll be right.




i was told by someone working for a specialist insurance co that its basically standard practice for them to deny all claims at first, and then see if you'll go away.

a legal letterhead usually does the trick of getting cooperation from either the other party and/or the insurance co. just keep hassling both.

"the squeakiest wheel gets oiled first"...just keep squeaking!!!

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